Who will win euro 2004 (2 Viewers)

Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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I think the semi-finalists will be:
Italy,Chezh,Portugal,France.
If Chezh won't suffer from injuries they have a very good side but have not a very good back up's.I like them very much.:angel:
But my heart IS WITH ITALY!FORZA AZZURI!we need a NT trophy now,later noone knows what will happen....everyone will be older.....new generation...GET IT!:fero::cool:
 

Ahmed_

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Dec 23, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by mikhail ] ++

Holland can call on the talents of Kluivert, Van Nistelrooy, Makaay and Hasselbaink up front and guys like Davids, van Bommel, Van Der Vaart, Hofland, Staam, Van Der Sar, Reiziger, Melchiot, Overmars, Zenden, etc.

That's a team to match England.
Holland is much better than England ... England should be compared to Turky or Cameroon not to a great team like Holland
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Holland can call on the talents of Kluivert, Van Nistelrooy, Makaay and Hasselbaink up front and guys like Davids, van Bommel, Van Der Vaart, Hofland, Staam, Van Der Sar, Reiziger, Melchiot, Overmars, Zenden, etc.

That's a team to match England. [/QUOTE]

Oh ya no one can say these players arent world class but as a team they're nothing compared to the English,i mean if we compare the Dutch and the English by who their players are unarguably the dutch are better but as a team the English are better(note that i dont support England its just a matter of opinion).
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Bongiovi ] ++
Sorry, I dont agree, I think they Dutch are massively better than the English national team as players and a team...
yes but the dutch didnt prove that in anyway,as for the English they reached the quarter finals in the WC (which holland didnt even qualify to)and now they qualified to the Euro 2004 automatically.

so may you prove that holland are better.
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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Oh come on, Holland were with Ireland and Portugal, who I think are stronger than Germany and Greece. Don't even talk about Germany's progress at the WC, they should have been knocked out by Ireland, and they played boring, 'efficient' football :sleepy:
 

aressandro10

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Jul 30, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
yes but the dutch didnt prove that in anyway,as for the English they reached the quarter finals in the WC (which holland didnt even qualify to)and now they qualified to the Euro 2004 automatically.

so may you prove that holland are better.
agreed... teams should be rated by performance and not how many stars they have in every deparment ;)


as far as for the time being are concern, Holland is a nobody team who tried to build back their past glory....
 

Bongiovi

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Jul 12, 2002
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But why does that make England a better team, just because they qualify???....England havent won anything, England havent proved anything either...so basically you are saying if Holland win Euro 2004, they are better than England because they won?

The dutch players are in a different league to the English players. I personally dont think England have had a good side for quite a few years and I dont think they are good enough to win at the moment...

Spain didnt automatically qualify but I'd say Spain were better than England at the moment...
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
Oh come on, Holland were with Ireland and Portugal, who I think are stronger than Germany and Greece. Don't even talk about Germany's progress at the WC, they should have been knocked out by Ireland, and they played boring, 'efficient' football :sleepy:
I agree with you about the part that says Germany play boring efficent football

as for germany and greece are weaker than portugal and ireland,Yes your right but a strong team can pass any obstacle in front of them which holland did not do and England did.
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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so france, argentina and italy are $#!^ teams? They couldn't even pass not-so-big obstacles... well i dunno about Italy, but ;)
 

aressandro10

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Jul 30, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Bongiovi ] ++
But why does that make England a better team, just because they qualify???....England havent won anything, England havent proved anything either...so basically you are saying if Holland win Euro 2004, they are better than England because they won?

The dutch players are in a different league to the English players. I personally dont think England have had a good side for quite a few years and I dont think they are good enough to win at the moment...

Spain didnt automatically qualify but I'd say Spain were better than England at the moment...
i think Holland would beat the hell out of England if they meat head to head.

but that the difference, some teams make the job when it counts while some other teams only have to rely on head to head clashes to prove their greatness..

if they are so damn great, why dont they fvcking qualify the fvcking qualifying round....

and i am basically saying that if Holland win EURO 2004, they are better than England or any other european country for that matter...
 

Bongiovi

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Jul 12, 2002
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It doesnt matter how they qualify, ( play offs or qualifying rounds) its who wins on the day! I'm not saying Holland will win (although I hope they do) I just dont think England are good enough to beat the other teams yet and go on to win...
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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I wouldn't fear playing against England.

Holland, on the other hand :scared:

*burying memories of WC98* <--- that match happened on my birthday, and i woke up at 4am to watch it :fero::frown::irritate:
 

aressandro10

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Jul 30, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Bongiovi ] ++
It doesnt matter how they qualify, ( play offs or qualifying rounds) its who wins on the day! I'm not saying Holland will win (although I hope they do) I just dont think England are good enough to beat the other teams yet and go on to win...
i think so too.... and if Holland do qualify, i think they have great prospect to win it..better then England. But then again, they said France or Argentina would win the last world cup ......
 

Bongiovi

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Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++


i think so too.... and if Holland do qualify, i think they have great prospect to win it..better then England. But then again, they said France or Argentina would win the last world cup ......
I'm sorry, I'm to blame for that, I had my brazil shirt on....!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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