What is your god like? (18 Viewers)
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How can't it be made up?
For a long time Mohammed was treated badly by Arabs.... they tortured, boycott and hurt him and the ones who believed in him at every chance possible and yet even though they were superior at language knowledge Mohammed always managed to embarrass them when it comes to Quran.
They tried to kill him and started wars against him and his people how can all of this be a made up?
Yet you present evidence of gods existence such as - the origin of the universe itself, go further and when anyone asks you if gods exists you just answer - you are alive and living, therefore god exists. With this you can win any argument, because sky is blue, therefore god exists and so on.
The fintetuning of the universe? Where does your knowledge or any evidence come from to give this credit to god? How do you know such things is beyond me.
And objective moral law? I dont see anyone but you defending this one here. And yet you present it as 100% evidence, while in my eyes it isnt convincing at all.
The fintetuning of the universe? Where does your knowledge or any evidence come from to give this credit to god? How do you know such things is beyond me.
And objective moral law? I dont see anyone but you defending this one here. And yet you present it as 100% evidence, while in my eyes it isnt convincing at all.
All the theists in the thread defended objective morality.
As for fine-tuning, since you proclaim your ignorance to this subject why don't you try researching it and see what the top physicists of our world have commented on the subject. Here's how it goes, the initial conditions of the universe for life to even be possible were required to be unmistakingly accurate and precise. Any slight deviation in any of those constants would have caused the universe to collapse on it self resulting in a huge explosion.This suggests an intelligent designer is necessary.
And for the origin of the universe. Since the Big Bang is the starting point of the dimensions of space and time, the most plausible explanation for the occurence of the Big Bang is a supernatural force outside the dimensions of space and time.
As for fine-tuning, since you proclaim your ignorance to this subject why don't you try researching it and see what the top physicists of our world have commented on the subject. Here's how it goes, the initial conditions of the universe for life to even be possible were required to be unmistakingly accurate and precise. Any slight deviation in any of those constants would have caused the universe to collapse on it self resulting in a huge explosion.This suggests an intelligent designer is necessary.
And for the origin of the universe. Since the Big Bang is the starting point of the dimensions of space and time, the most plausible explanation for the occurence of the Big Bang is a supernatural force outside the dimensions of space and time.
First of all I dont deny that the universe needed some sort of very precise mesurements to grow into the one it is now, but i dont understand why does god win by default here?
How do you know that outside of the space and time dimensions are supernatural force? According to today theory physics there are 11 dimensions, and none of them are called supernatural.
How do you know that outside of the space and time dimensions are supernatural force? According to today theory physics there are 11 dimensions, and none of them are called supernatural.
If all of this was a pure imagination how comes he imagine something which is totally superior and non comparable to anything Arab ever wrote, read or knew about?
Again, language knowledge was Arab most famous character during that region and yet an illiterate man came with a book which beat everything they have ever learn about... imagination, fake.... please!
Again, language knowledge was Arab most famous character during that region and yet an illiterate man came with a book which beat everything they have ever learn about... imagination, fake.... please!
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