Can we safely exclude the Mr.X theory now
The capacity to reason is just gone, isn't it? It's just gone.
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No, we can't.
The capacity to reason is just gone, isn't it? It's just gone.
The capacity to reason is just gone, isn't it? It's just gone.
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Let me get this straight X is a moron and yet the moron managed to write an unmatched faked Divine-book that Arabs never heard or read something like it , and eventhough X was alive when Mohammed died (check my previous post) he decide not to announce himself as the real author or prophet or whatever you call it.
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Let me get this straight X is a moron and yet the moron managed to write an unmatched faked Divine-book that Arabs never heard or read something like it , and eventhough X was alive when Mohammed died (check my previous post) he decide not to announce himself as the real author or prophet or whatever you call it.
Priceless keep them coming
Priceless keep them coming
Ow I see. Now THIS is going to be good. Here's what we'll do. I'm going off to bed now and in the morning I expect to see this:
Proof that Muhammad was:
a) Illiterate
b) Had no help from anyone writing the Quran
Because that's what it takes to prove my theory wrong. Now if I hear you, this won't be too hard. Good luck with it, mate.
Proof that Muhammad was:
a) Illiterate
b) Had no help from anyone writing the Quran
Because that's what it takes to prove my theory wrong. Now if I hear you, this won't be too hard. Good luck with it, mate.
Because we are humans, and we are very weak to this sort of things, we wanna see good things, so we imagine a god who restores the balance, who makes pay those who treat you bad and you cant touch them, we fear the unknown so we imagine things there, good things, that look after us and etc.
Could you answer me then, why Allah? Why not greece mithology, or roman, egiptian, indian? And why do you dont believe in them?
Could you answer me then, why Allah? Why not greece mithology, or roman, egiptian, indian? And why do you dont believe in them?
What's so good about religion really?
Do you know how difficult it is to believe? The path to God in nearly every religion is full of thorns; it has distractions, you have to make tough decisions, you have to control your negative desires, you have responsibilites, etc. Do you really think we made up God and religion to inflict pain on ourselves? Do we look like sadists to you?
To not believe in God is easy as hell. You get to do what ever the hell you want pretty much without any consequences.
This notion of "we fear the unknown so we imagine things there, good things, that look after us and etc." is utter nonsense. You people just keep recycling the same arguments over and over again.
Do you know how difficult it is to believe? The path to God in nearly every religion is full of thorns; it has distractions, you have to make tough decisions, you have to control your negative desires, you have responsibilites, etc. Do you really think we made up God and religion to inflict pain on ourselves? Do we look like sadists to you?
To not believe in God is easy as hell. You get to do what ever the hell you want pretty much without any consequences.
This notion of "we fear the unknown so we imagine things there, good things, that look after us and etc." is utter nonsense. You people just keep recycling the same arguments over and over again.
1) Mohammed claimed Quran is God Divine-book.
2) Quran isn't God work according to you.
From 1) and 2) we can conclude 3)
3) Mohammed MUST be lying and he have faked Quran according to you.
4) You don't know if Mohammed faked Quran according to your latest post.
From 3) and 4) we can conclude 5)
5) You are contradicting yourself.
Now back to your questions.
There is one God and one God only... it is not like other religions but Islam are discussing a different God... whatever others religions name him I believe in God who created universe and created us humans, naming is totally irrelevant here.
2) Quran isn't God work according to you.
From 1) and 2) we can conclude 3)
3) Mohammed MUST be lying and he have faked Quran according to you.
4) You don't know if Mohammed faked Quran according to your latest post.
From 3) and 4) we can conclude 5)
5) You are contradicting yourself.
Now back to your questions.
There is one God and one God only... it is not like other religions but Islam are discussing a different God... whatever others religions name him I believe in God who created universe and created us humans, naming is totally irrelevant here.
No i dont think you are sadists, but what do you mean we can do anything without any consequences? Do you think of people who dont believe in god as some sort of animal who dont know what they are doing?
It is sad that some of you need some book to tell you that by killing for pleasure or is bad thing. And dont you think that human mind holds some creditability in creating god? Imagining things that it wants to see, hearing stuff that it wants to hear. The more desperate the mind is the more willing to accept most the unimaginable things. Like god and his salvation and etc.
And could anyone tell why do they dont believe in greece, roman, egiptian mythology? And could explain me why dont they believe in them?
It is sad that some of you need some book to tell you that by killing for pleasure or is bad thing. And dont you think that human mind holds some creditability in creating god? Imagining things that it wants to see, hearing stuff that it wants to hear. The more desperate the mind is the more willing to accept most the unimaginable things. Like god and his salvation and etc.
And could anyone tell why do they dont believe in greece, roman, egiptian mythology? And could explain me why dont they believe in them?
You must have misunderstood me, as i wanted to say that i do not care what mohammed claimed written or done, the fact that its mythology, stories and fantasy trumps it all.
And some stories in the "holy" books are good and have a good idea behind them, but that doesnt mean they were gods works and had help from angels that landed from the sky.
Since as you said quran was published after mohammed i dont even know if its mohammed who wrote it.
And some stories in the "holy" books are good and have a good idea behind them, but that doesnt mean they were gods works and had help from angels that landed from the sky.
Since as you said quran was published after mohammed i dont even know if its mohammed who wrote it.
You do live without any consequences. You get to sleep around, you get to cheat the poor, you get to treat your neighbors however you like, you get to exploit who ever you want, you get to kill whoever you want. Given, not every atheist/agnostic does but what's to stop them? And If it wasn't for man made laws what would prevent you from doing what ever you wanted?
Yes, I do need a 'book' to tell me to respect my parents, to respect my elders, to treat my neighbors like my brothers and sisters, to not sleep around, to help the poor, to respect Gods creation. I have a purpose in life, I wasn't just created by a random sequence of events.
And you're most welcome to have learned these values from various prophets through out the history of mankind. But blame yourself for losing these values slowly but surely on a daily basis.
To look for a 'creator' is something this is inherent in all humans, if it wasn't we wouldn't have a concept of God.
Truth always comes out and truth always survives through anything. If some people at one point in history believed in a certain ideology and it did not survive then it didn't hold truth. Greek mythology held no truth to it otherwise it would have survived.
Yes, I do need a 'book' to tell me to respect my parents, to respect my elders, to treat my neighbors like my brothers and sisters, to not sleep around, to help the poor, to respect Gods creation. I have a purpose in life, I wasn't just created by a random sequence of events.
And you're most welcome to have learned these values from various prophets through out the history of mankind. But blame yourself for losing these values slowly but surely on a daily basis.
To look for a 'creator' is something this is inherent in all humans, if it wasn't we wouldn't have a concept of God.
Truth always comes out and truth always survives through anything. If some people at one point in history believed in a certain ideology and it did not survive then it didn't hold truth. Greek mythology held no truth to it otherwise it would have survived.
Ps: Quran wasn't written b y muhammed.. it was said by mohammed... people memorized it.. some wrote down what they memorized some didnt... then by the time of the 2nd and 3rd caliph they decided they should put that in a book so they gathered it all and published it and made copies etc. But mohammed never wrote he just spoke
Read a couple of pages back Ze.... 7 was getting owned so badly
Mohammed faked being illiterate is a must read I'm telling you, you don't wanna miss that one
Mohammed faked being illiterate is a must read I'm telling you, you don't wanna miss that one
So Prophet Muhammad faked being illiterate then wrote the Qur'an entirely on his own and in the end profited absolutely NOTHING from his work. Brilliant
Not to mention the Qur'an wasn't even published in his life time
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