What Are You Doing Right Now? (179 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

Well now I can

Smoking with a clean consciousness, you lucky bastard.

 

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[Fint]

The main risk with VG seems to be that in some VG-based solutions, two toxic compounds that are also found in ordinary cigarettes, appear. These are formaldehyde and acrolein. When they have appeared, they have nevertheless appeared in much lower levels than what is true of the ordinary cigarette (ordinary cigarettes contain 12 to 32-fold higher levels)

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Andrzej Sobczak, Ph.D.*1,2, Leon Kosmider1,2, Maciej L. Goniewicz, Ph.D.3,4, Jakub
Knysak2, Marzena Zaciera, Ph.D.5, and Jolanta Kurek5, 1Institute of Occupational
Medicine and Environmental Health, Sosnowiec, Poland; 2Medical University
of Silesia, Katowice, Poland;3Queen Mary University of London, UK; 4Roswell
Park Cancer Institute, Buffalo, USA; 5Institute of Occupational Medicine and
Environmental Health, Sosnowiec, Poland

Significance: Electronic cigarettes (ECs) are purported to deliver nicotine vapor
without any toxic substances generated from tobacco combustion. However, using
ECs involves heating a nicotine solution to high temperatures. This may induce
chemical reactions which result in the possible formation of carbonyl compounds
(CCs) and volatile organic compounds (VOCs). Many CCs and VOCs are common
tobacco-specific toxicants with proven carcinogenic and cardiotoxic properties. Aim
of the study:The aim of the study was to quantify and compare the levels of selected
CCs (formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein, acetone, propanal, butanal) and VOCs
(benzene, toluene, etylobenzene and ortho-, meta-, para-xylene) in EC nicotine
refill solutions, vapors generated from ECs,and mainstream smoke from tobacco
cigarettes. Methods: Six commercially available nicotine refill solutions for ECs
(Chic Group Ltd. Poland) were examined. Three solutions contained a mixture of
propylene glycol and glycerin (Volish brand) as a solvent for nicotine, while the
other three contained only propylene glycol (Mild brand). Thirtypuffs were taken
using an automatic smoking machine. Mainstream smoke was generated from
a3R4F reference tobacco cigarette. CCs were extracted from vapor and smoke to
solid phase with 2,4-dinitrophenylhydrazine, and analyzed using HPLC/DAD. VOCs
were absorbed on activated carbon and analyzed with GC/MS. Results:Traces of
acetaldehyde were detected in all examined EC solutions(0.081±0.042 μg/mL).
Acetaldehyde was found in all EC vapors (0.153±0.116 μg/30 puffs), but at levels
more than a thousand-fold lower than in tobacco smoke. Formaldehyde and acrolein
were only found in vapors generated from glycerin-based solutions (0.116±0.022
and0.110±0.190μg/30 puffs) and in tobacco smoke (12 and 32-fold higher levels,
respectively). None of the examined VOCs were detected in the vapors, while all
were found in tobacco smoke. Conclusions: In contrast to tobacco smoke, the
vapors generated from ECs does not contain VOCs. Exposure to CCs from ECs is
significantly reduced compared to tobacco smoke and may be attributable to the
glycerin content in the nicotine refill solution.

That's nothing your body can't handle.

Zach type post

*reported

 

[Klin]

Smoking with a clean consciousness, you lucky bastard.

I always smoke with a clean consciousness. What's the point if you don't?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

The main risk with VG seems to be that in some VG-based solutions, two toxic compounds that are also found in ordinary cigarettes, appear. These are formaldehyde and acrolein. When they have appeared, they have nevertheless appeared in much lower levels than what is true of the ordinary cigarette (ordinary cigarettes contain 12 to 32-fold higher levels)

Spoiler

Andrzej Sobczak, Ph.D.*1,2, Leon Kosmider1,2, Maciej L. Goniewicz, Ph.D.3,4, Jakub
Knysak2, Marzena Zaciera, Ph.D.5, and Jolanta Kurek5, 1Institute of Occupational
Medicine and Environmental Health, Sosnowiec, Poland; 2Medical University
of Silesia, Katowice, Poland;3Queen Mary University of London, UK; 4Roswell
Park Cancer Institute, Buffalo, USA; 5Institute of Occupational Medicine and
Environmental Health, Sosnowiec, Poland

Significance: Electronic cigarettes (ECs) are purported to deliver nicotine vapor
without any toxic substances generated from tobacco combustion. However, using
ECs involves heating a nicotine solution to high temperatures. This may induce
chemical reactions which result in the possible formation of carbonyl compounds
(CCs) and volatile organic compounds (VOCs). Many CCs and VOCs are common
tobacco-specific toxicants with proven carcinogenic and cardiotoxic properties. Aim
of the study:The aim of the study was to quantify and compare the levels of selected
CCs (formaldehyde, acetaldehyde, acrolein, acetone, propanal, butanal) and VOCs
(benzene, toluene, etylobenzene and ortho-, meta-, para-xylene) in EC nicotine
refill solutions, vapors generated from ECs,and mainstream smoke from tobacco
cigarettes. Methods: Six commercially available nicotine refill solutions for ECs
(Chic Group Ltd. Poland) were examined. Three solutions contained a mixture of
propylene glycol and glycerin (Volish brand) as a solvent for nicotine, while the
other three contained only propylene glycol (Mild brand). Thirtypuffs were taken
using an automatic smoking machine. Mainstream smoke was generated from
a3R4F reference tobacco cigarette. CCs were extracted from vapor and smoke to
solid phase with 2,4-dinitrophenylhydrazine, and analyzed using HPLC/DAD. VOCs
were absorbed on activated carbon and analyzed with GC/MS. Results:Traces of
acetaldehyde were detected in all examined EC solutions(0.081±0.042 μg/mL).
Acetaldehyde was found in all EC vapors (0.153±0.116 μg/30 puffs), but at levels
more than a thousand-fold lower than in tobacco smoke. Formaldehyde and acrolein
were only found in vapors generated from glycerin-based solutions (0.116±0.022
and0.110±0.190μg/30 puffs) and in tobacco smoke (12 and 32-fold higher levels,
respectively). None of the examined VOCs were detected in the vapors, while all
were found in tobacco smoke. Conclusions: In contrast to tobacco smoke, the
vapors generated from ECs does not contain VOCs. Exposure to CCs from ECs is
significantly reduced compared to tobacco smoke and may be attributable to the
glycerin content in the nicotine refill solution.

That's nothing your body can't handle.

Interesting. Thanks

 

[Jem83]

Interesting. Thanks

You're welcome

No one is saying ecigs is 100 % risk-free. Most stuff you put in your body contains risk, even ice cream. What matters is the substantial reduction of toxins in ecigs in comparison with ordinary cigs. Your body is able to handle that.

Remember that ordinary cigs contain 3000 various compounds, and 17 of those are flagged high risk for cancer when injested in high doses.

Ecigs contain 4 main ingredients: VG, PG, Nicotine and sweetener (sweetener can even be organic), and traces of few toxins that are found in ordinary cigs. But far from critical levels.

A brand new research document from Norway was released last month, by SIRIUS (Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research). It confirms how much safer than ordinary cigs ecigs are. I was gonna post a link to it but it seems that there's only a norwegian version of the .pdf document available at present. I'm sure an english version will be available in the near future.

Zach type post

*reported

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

You're welcome

No one is saying ecigs is 100 % risk-free. Most stuff you put in your body contains risk, even ice cream. What matters is the substantial reduction of toxins in ecigs in comparison with ordinary cigs. Your body is able to handle that.

Remember that ordinary cigs contain 3000 various compounds, and 17 of those are flagged high risk for cancer when injested in high doses.

Ecigs contain 4 main ingredients: VG, PG, Nicotine and sweetener (sweetener can even be organic), and traces of few toxins that are found in ordinary cigs. But far from critical levels.

A brand new research document from Norway was released last month, by SIRIUS (Norwegian Institute for Alcohol and Drug Research). It confirms how much safer than ordinary cigs ecigs are. I was gonna post a link to it but it seems that there's only a norwegian version of the .pdf document available at present. I'm sure an english version will be available in the near future.

I don't touch the stuff, but I know people that do and I also find it hard to believe that it is 100% "safe" like some claim. They also sell them without nicotine, so I wonder if that affects it at all.

 

[swag]

What's this "reptile dysfunction" I keep hearing about during the commercial breaks on my TV?

Do they really put lizards through behavioral conditioning?

 

[Fint]

Being cock blocked is a horrible experience no matter the target

 

[ZoSo]

I know that feel bro

 

[Fint]

Hold me

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[Fint]

Drinking Arak makes for quite a nasty hangover

 

[Osman]

Todays form of entertainment: Torturing a shy collegue by repeatedly playing a youtube video of her singing (rather well for novice) infront of everyone (she's ok with the whole world seeing, just not ppl she knows, bit wtf) , insanely hilarious to see her helping costumers and then hearing and realizing its her, turning all red in the face

 

[Nzoric]

Asshole!

 

[Fint]

nice work Os

 

[Osman]

Nah shit was hilarious (should have seen her "oooh shit" face lol) She took it well, was embarrassed but in light hearted way. Jokingly tease her all the time, this time she just gave me ultimate material


Btw, she sings fairly well for beginner (will remember to never face her in kareoke in office parties), which is why I didnt get why she was so embarrassed. Plus should thank me since I increased her her view count by a bit

 

[Martin]

video or it didn't happen

 

[Osman]

Nah, she would kill me if she suddenly sees view count rise to suspicious levels (which is weird, why broadcast to the world and be all embarrassed). You're not missing much, just a little girl singing fairly decently an Alicia Keys song for 60 seconds.

 

[Martin]

if you say so

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Nah, she would kill me if she suddenly sees view count rise to suspicious levels (which is weird, why broadcast to the world and be all embarrassed). You're not missing much, just a little girl singing fairly decently an Alicia Keys song for 60 seconds.

Shut up n post it, Os!