Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Why do I get the feeling that this is an issue that is not yet resolved for you personally?
Relax, this was 10 years ago. Much water has passed under many bridges.

What I take issue with is that life is really hard sometimes, and instead of people helping each other you get this idiotic posturing that's propagated by Abel and many others here. It helps noone except the proud dudes feel that they're better than someone having a problem and "that would never happen to me, I'm better than that".
 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
Relax, this was 10 years ago. Much water has passed under many bridges.

What I take issue with is that life is really hard sometimes, and instead of people helping each other you get this idiotic posturing that's propagated by Abel and many others here. It helps noone except the proud dudes feel that they're better than someone having a problem and "that would never happen to me, I'm better than that".
Sure. I agree that posturing isn't always helpful. But sometimes you do need a friend who tells you to man up. Preferably a friend who doesn't give just that as advice all the time though.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,789
Relax, this was 10 years ago. Much water has passed under many bridges.

What I take issue with is that life is really hard sometimes, and instead of people helping each other you get this idiotic posturing that's propagated by Abel and many others here. It helps noone except the proud dudes feel that they're better than someone having a problem and "that would never happen to me, I'm better than that".
The only problem here is that you are a pansy, a group hug only makes it worse.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Reading the last few pages... what poor wretched people, you guys have never loved, have you :disagree:

Not getting over someone you love of course doesn't mean you stop functioning or go batshit crazy, but not getting over someone you love is a thing. Has far less to do with your coping mechanism than it does with the person you love. Also makes you a better person. Also is not about visualizing a perfect marriage with a hot individual. You poor people :disagree:
Does it make one a worse person when closing the chapter of an ex girlfriend, but at the same time feel an odd sense of satisfaction seeing how the once stunning female you used to be with has now gained 35+kg and is fat and mostly unattractive ?


Cause i certainly do.



Dont get me wrong. I have fond memories and at the end it was ugly but thats what happens if you grow apart or arent compatible in the long run. And i have no grudges or regrets. it was good when it lasted


But i do like the idea of "the best of you, was under me"



Does this makes me an asshole ? probably does.

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Some dude at my gym just sneezed through his nose and had snot flying everywhere. :inter:

It's not that difficult to do it through your mouth if you don't want snot rocketing outta your nose.
yes and no


I have an askew septum, so if i have a hard sneeze, it will do that too, cant help it.


here is a radicalised idea : Use a hankerchief or if you dont have one, your goddamn hand to avoid spraying people
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,923
Reading the last few pages... what poor wretched people, you guys have never loved, have you :disagree:

Not getting over someone you love of course doesn't mean you stop functioning or go batshit crazy, but not getting over someone you love is a thing. Has far less to do with your coping mechanism than it does with the person you love. Also makes you a better person. Also is not about visualizing a perfect marriage with a hot individual. You poor people :disagree:
:disagree:

In Fr3sh's case, it was about someone he broke up with 5 years ago, not 2 weeks ago.

He certainly needed to be reminded he was being an irrational pussy.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
I have a mate, who almost killed himself, till someone told him to get his shit together and stop feeling sorry for himself.
Exactly. Sometimes people need a bit of support. But if people become stuck in that grieve phase over some person they didn't even really know that well, it is often necessary for someone to tell them to stop crying like a baby.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
What?

This is literally the worst thing you can say to someone who is suicidal.
Of course not. Depends on the circumstances and the person in question. Sometimes that's exactly what you should say.

Also, if you kill yourself over a girl who doesn't want you, you have a mental illness. Seriously. That's some fucked up narcissistic shit man.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
Of course it does. People sometimes get stuck feeling sorry for themselves. That's not a healthy emotion at all. They need to be told so.

But if it's been two weeks since your wife died? Yeah, then I'd say people should be a bit more friendly.
One of my neighbors killed himself because his gf of two years dumped him.
Juvenile and narcissistic.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
What?

This is literally the worst thing you can say to someone who is suicidal.
Not in this case. He had so much support for so long time and nothing helped. The guy literally stood in a forrest with a rope about to hang himself. So he called up a another mate of mine and said this was it. But he told him not to pussy out and get his shit together and lots of other stuff I can't remember. My mate said it was what saved him.
 

Wittl

Senior Member
Contributor
Feb 21, 2017
11,311
Of course not. Depends on the circumstances and the person in question. Sometimes that's exactly what you should say.

Also, if you kill yourself over a girl who doesn't want you, you have a mental illness. Seriously. That's some $#@!ed up narcissistic $#@! man.
If you are suicidal, you have some kind of a mental illness. Doesnt matter if it is because of a broken relationship or because of any another reason why you feel your life to be fucked up. So in that case it would be wrong to insult this person to be a pussy or something, because that won't help.

Don't get me wrong, i understand your point. I have also a friend who fucking cried for more than a year, every time i saw him, he talked about her and how he feels sorry to have fucked up this love and everything. He prefered to cry than to watch Juve-matches or drink the fuck out of his head.

But what i wanna say is that there is a border. If someone wants to kill himself, you have to be careful and sensitive, because everything you may say can have a fatal outcome.. (and i think thats what @DAiDEViL means)
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,607
Of course not. Depends on the circumstances and the person in question. Sometimes that's exactly what you should say.
Do you think that they don't want to get their shit together? Of course they want, but obviously they can't. They aren't a mess on purpose. Comments like "get your shit together" are of no use.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
If you are suicidal, you have some kind of a mental illness. Doesnt matter if it is because of a broken relationship or because of any another reason why you feel your life to be fucked up. So in that case it would be wrong to insult this person to be a pussy or something, because that won't help.

Don't get me wrong, i understand your point. I have also a friend who fucking cried for more than a year, every time i saw him, he talked about her and how he feels sorry to have fucked up this love and everything. He prefered to cry than to watch Juve-matches or drink the fuck out of his head.

But what i wanna say is that there is a border. If someone wants to kill himself, you have to be careful and sensitive, because everything you may say can have a fatal outcome..
Sure. It's still not your responsibility. And if you allow this wallowing to go on, you'd be just as guilty. It creates a cycle of depression and obsession. Hell, this is how stalkers happen.

Also, suicide is not always a symptom of a mental illness. Sometimes people just make that choice.
We're not talking about a deep depression here.
It could trigger a depression though. But mostly it's people who can't take the blow to the ego. Which explains why I've seen more men kill themselves over women than the other way around.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,326
Do you think that they don't want to get their shit together? Of course they want, but obviously they can't. They aren't a mess on purpose. Comments like "get your shit together" are of no use.
No. Very often they don't want to get their shit together. Because that would mean tackling your issues. They'd rather avoid them and commit suicide.

Sorry. I have zero respect for a man who kills himself just because a girl broke up with him.
 

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