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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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Milan ultras claim Super League criticism 'hypocritical'

Milan ultras group Curva Sud released a statement that did not condemn the Super League plan, but rather claimed the outrage is ‘hypocritical.’
While fans at Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool and others are all protesting angrily in the hours since the project was announced, Italian supporters have been relatively quiet.
Juventus fans hung up one banner outside the stadium complaining their history was being ‘bartered and commercialised,’ pointedly including an image of the old logo.

Milan supporters group Curva Sud released a different kind of statement that hit out at the world of football in general.
“Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost.
“The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manouvres over decades that has made football into a business.
“The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy.
“But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart.
“Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times.
“Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans.
“Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium.
“Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised.
“Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations.
“We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours.
“The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality.
“Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans. PIGS!”

Well these guys seem get it.
 

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Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,683
What are we arguing about here again?
delusions? Why did they have to give us hope and then this?
This is how it appears to me.

Italian and Spanish clubs want to stay in along with Arsenal and Tottenham. The Spanish have rising debts and they know that can't compete with the PL in the long run. Those two English clubs risk every year missing out on the CL, and that's key. Arsenal has sucked for long time and that won't change without something big happening and this is their chance. Chelsea is probably shifty because they are by no means guaranteed a CL place, but they are at a better place than the other two.

Man Utd and Liverpool are harder to pin down. Two of those clubs have American owners who probably wanted this, but one of them just announced the departure of their Vice-President. Liverpool are the non-broke Barca of Britain, they like to pretend to have a higher moral compass.
yeah Liverpoolers never piss alone. Holding each others dicks to pee.
After all their players came out against this they'll have to forfait. Else what? sanction all their players?
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
19,262
Milan ultras claim Super League criticism 'hypocritical'

Milan ultras group Curva Sud released a statement that did not condemn the Super League plan, but rather claimed the outrage is ‘hypocritical.’
While fans at Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool and others are all protesting angrily in the hours since the project was announced, Italian supporters have been relatively quiet.
Juventus fans hung up one banner outside the stadium complaining their history was being ‘bartered and commercialised,’ pointedly including an image of the old logo.

Milan supporters group Curva Sud released a different kind of statement that hit out at the world of football in general.
“Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost.
“The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manouvres over decades that has made football into a business.
“The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy.
“But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart.
“Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times.
“Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans.
“Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium.
“Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised.
“Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations.
“We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours.
“The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality.
“Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans. PIGS!”

Well these guys seem get it.
wow the only ultras group who can actually read. Impressive.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,845
Milan ultras claim Super League criticism 'hypocritical'

Milan ultras group Curva Sud released a statement that did not condemn the Super League plan, but rather claimed the outrage is ‘hypocritical.’
While fans at Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool and others are all protesting angrily in the hours since the project was announced, Italian supporters have been relatively quiet.
Juventus fans hung up one banner outside the stadium complaining their history was being ‘bartered and commercialised,’ pointedly including an image of the old logo.

Milan supporters group Curva Sud released a different kind of statement that hit out at the world of football in general.
“Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost.
“The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manouvres over decades that has made football into a business.
“The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy.
“But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart.
“Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times.
“Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans.
“Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium.
“Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised.
“Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations.
“We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours.
“The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality.
“Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans. PIGS!”

Well these guys seem get it.
Great statement.
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,683
This is how it appears to me.

Italian and Spanish clubs want to stay in along with Arsenal and Tottenham. The Spanish have rising debts and they know that can't compete with the PL in the long run. Those two English clubs risk every year missing out on the CL, and that's key. Arsenal has sucked for long time and that won't change without something big happening and this is their chance. Chelsea is probably shifty because they are by no means guaranteed a CL place, but they are at a better place than the other two.

Man Utd and Liverpool are harder to pin down. Two of those clubs have American owners who probably wanted this, but one of them just announced the departure of their Vice-President. Liverpool are the non-broke Barca of Britain, they like to pretend to have a higher moral compass.
that's why italians and spanish clubs were happy with it.
Pl has no money problems. So they have the most to lose from this. While we (Inter and Milan) and Spain clubs has the most.
Barcellona and Real are in dip shit. Same as Juventus,Milan and Inter which probably gonna close the season with over 200m of losses.
 

fredrik

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2011
7,234
What are we arguing about here again?
The small ppl (uefa and fifa) won against the dirty evil big clubs. A closed league without relegation ( a cup like cl) and financial stability is evil. What ppl really want is southhampton to win cl ( not really). The reality is that 90% doesnt know what the fuck they are talking about, and thinks they are saving the league
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
22,624
Milan ultras claim Super League criticism 'hypocritical'

Milan ultras group Curva Sud released a statement that did not condemn the Super League plan, but rather claimed the outrage is ‘hypocritical.’
While fans at Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool and others are all protesting angrily in the hours since the project was announced, Italian supporters have been relatively quiet.
Juventus fans hung up one banner outside the stadium complaining their history was being ‘bartered and commercialised,’ pointedly including an image of the old logo.

Milan supporters group Curva Sud released a different kind of statement that hit out at the world of football in general.
“Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost.
“The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manouvres over decades that has made football into a business.
“The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy.
“But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart.
“Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times.
“Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans.
“Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium.
“Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised.
“Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations.
“We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours.
“The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality.
“Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans. PIGS!”

Well these guys seem get it.
Respect to them :delpiero:
 
May 26, 2016
4,072
Milan ultras claim Super League criticism 'hypocritical'

Milan ultras group Curva Sud released a statement that did not condemn the Super League plan, but rather claimed the outrage is ‘hypocritical.’
While fans at Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool and others are all protesting angrily in the hours since the project was announced, Italian supporters have been relatively quiet.
Juventus fans hung up one banner outside the stadium complaining their history was being ‘bartered and commercialised,’ pointedly including an image of the old logo.

Milan supporters group Curva Sud released a different kind of statement that hit out at the world of football in general.
“Honestly, it makes us laugh to see all those people in the control room of football suddenly claim we fans are first and foremost.
“The Super League is just the latest in a long line of innumerable manouvres over decades that has made football into a business.
“The birth of this new competition would certainly be another shove to the football of old, which is by now a distant memory, and will inevitably obscure the tradition of the various national leagues, robbing football of the undeniable principle of sporting meritocracy.
“But the thing that most leaves us indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who contributed to making this sport nothing but a business, those who today stand up in name of the fans, but only because they saw their remunerative and seemingly untouchable project fall apart.
Football did belong to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League was born, destroying the old European Cup. From that moment, an unbreachable chasm has been created between the big and small clubs.
“Football did belong to the people even when nobody lifted a finger to stop the increase of ticket prices that was imposed by some Presidents.

“Football did belong to the people even when nobody stepped in to stop the rise of the super agents, who took player salaries to ever more astronomical figures, which could only be sustained with TV rights, the same TV companies that imposed increasingly chaotic fixture lists, with games on improbable days and kick-off times.
“Football did belong to the people even when rules were imposed to stop any rapport between the players and the fans.
“Football did belong to the people even when Supercoppa Finals were played on other continents or the dates of some games were changed a few days before kick-off, damaging those fans who had booked trains or planes to get to the stadium.
“Football did belong to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent Financial Fair Play, while others with less influential Presidents were penalised.
“Football did belong to the people even when the World Cup was forced to Qatar in 2022, despite moving the entire calendar and disregarding human rights violations.
“We could list numerous other examples to show the absolute hypocrisy of the words we’re hearing from the football chiefs over the last 48 hours.
“The Super League is just the latest disgusting step, but those who took football to this point are no less grotesque, so save us these ludicrous performances of rhetoric and morality.
“Now that the money is running out, feel free to fight it out between yourselves, but don’t you dare name the fans. PIGS!”

Well these guys seem get it.
Wow, fans with actual functioning brains, very surprised they are AC Milan fans tbh.

Premier League fans should be forced to read this over and over until they get down from their high horse and eat the blue pill
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,016
UEFA dictatorship won. Im ok to look silly for wanting it to end.
The reason it won is because Perez and Agnelli were too stupid to do it the right way. And the Americans just have no clue about how football in Europe works.

A change like that should not be done in secrecy but should be the results of long and transparent discussions. The format should not be closed.
 

abstract

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2012
4,403
PL teams joining was strange from the beginning, it would be very interesting to see what happened behind closed doors between the American owners and the rest, it seem like they were driving force behind this in England.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
6,891
The reason it won is because Perez and Agnelli were too stupid to do it the right way. And the Americans just have no clue about how football in Europe works.

A change like that should not be done in secrecy but should be the results of long and transparent discussions. The format should not be closed.
Regardless it was a last ditch effort by us and a few others and we lost big. Life will go on.
Hopefully pirlo is fired soon enough so we can go back to winning something.
 
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