The Passion of Christ (2 Viewers)

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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
I thought it was weird that a completely uneducated man would speak two languages. On the other hand I know nothing about the history of those times.. :undecide:

Well he wasn't completely uneducated. From what I've read, he spoke Aramaic, and it's fairly likely he knew Hebrew too. I said it's not likely that Pilate spoke Aramaic because i don't think he would've gone out of his way to learn the language of his 'peasants', and Jesus probably wouldn't have been familiar with the Roman language, which is why i think Jesus knew basic Greek

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Btw Monaco Bellucci was excellent!

Mate, you really need to stop thinking about football teams and get people's names right

But yes, she was excellent. I really preferred her in this role than in all the sexy roles she takes in other moviess

 

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[Martin]

What did you think of the lead actor? I felt he wasn't gentle enough for Jesus, I've always imagined Jesus to be the good, loving, caring man. He was a little cold I thought.

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
Mate, you really need to stop thinking about football teams and get people's names right

But yes, she was excellent. I really preferred her in this role than in all the sexy roles she takes in other moviess

I didn't pay attention to the spelling, just assumed it would be so..

Haven't seen her before... what was her story here? I just noticed she was bruised when she came to him but I don't remember anything from the bible. Really should have read up on this before going to the movies.

 

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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
What did you think of the lead actor? I felt he wasn't gentle enough for Jesus, I've always imagined Jesus to be the good, loving, caring man. He was a little cold I thought.

I know what you mean. I dunno what was with that snake-head crushing thing at the beginning, that wasn't biblical at all, and showed him to be some kind of animal-killer.

I liked that one scene that shows Jesus and his mother, after he's made the table.... it really made him more human and IMO there should have been at least one other scene like that. It's not exactly biblical, but it goes a long way towards showing his character, since the final hours of his life didn't give that much chance to do that.

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Haven't seen her before...

Most recently AFAIR, she played Persephone in Matrix Revolutions and tears of the sun, and she's had the temptress roll in a lot of foreign movies.

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
what was her story here? I just noticed she was bruised when she came to him

Ahh there's an issue i thought about after i saw the movie; they really should have shown her story, it shows more of Jesus' gentle character that we talked about before, and explains the reason for her being so close with him.

John 8:3-11

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.

When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.

Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said.

"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."


I really liked the effect used when he was drawing in the sand, but IMO the story should have been included

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
I don't remember anything from the bible. Really should have read up on this before going to the movies.

Ahh that would have made my day to hear that

 

[Martin]

1. I didn't like that scene where he was working on the table. She asked him to come in and he didn't. No big deal but he was Jesus, he was supposed to be perfect and that includes small things like not having to be asked twice. Just my idea of Jesus.

3. Not in a religious context though, it's just that it benefits you to know something about what you're seeing. I do remember a lot of the Bible still, even though it's been years. But I would have liked to brush up on the little things that made me wonder while watching it.

On the whole, though I did enjoy the movie, some things did irk me. First of all, it wasn't pure enough. That opening scene where Peter cut off the soldier's ear, what was that about? I thought they were supposed to be disciples, friendly people. They were afraid okay, but to go at a man with a knife? That's absurd IMO. Also the snake you mentioned. And what was with that bird poking the eyes out of that crook at the end? :wth:

Secondly, the dumbass sound effects. That really ruined it for me, they couldn't do without the Matrix-like amplified bass and shit like that. This is a movie about Jesus, effects from Die Hard have no place here. That opening scene where they fought had the classic movie sound effects, the drop that fell from heaven same thing, when he drew a line in the sand, same dumbass sound effects.

Drawing the line from that, the movie was really focused on the brutality and suffering. I would have liked a more religious composition, show the last supper in full, show more of resurrection etc. The whipping scenes made a strong point and I don't mind them because in this story of all stories suffering is paramount. If if wasn't because we're used to seeing people being tortured in every 2nd movie, this could have been done a lot less graphic. But too much focus on the suffering, bring out the religious message more. Show more of Palm Sunday, more of him teaching, healing etc. After all Chrstianity isn't all about suffering.

Ps. Where was Peter? I was surprised to never see him again... :undecide:

 

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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
1. I didn't like that scene where he was working on the table. She asked him to come in and he didn't. No big deal but he was Jesus, he was supposed to be perfect and that includes small things like not having to be asked twice. Just my idea of Jesus.

:LOL: I didn't really notice that. I wouldn't let that ruin the whole scene though

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
On the whole, though I did enjoy the movie, some things did irk me. First of all, it wasn't pure enough. That opening scene where Peter cut off the soldier's ear, what was that about? I thought they were supposed to be disciples, friendly people. They were afraid okay, but to go at a man with a knife? That's absurd IMO.

The disciples were frightened, and even though they were Christ's disciples, they were nowhere near perfect and were often total idiots. That part is biblical and it was important in that Jesus was loving even when he was being taken to his death (healing the soldier's ear).

Mark 14:47
"Then one of those standing near drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear."

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Also the snake you mentioned. And what was with that bird poking the eyes out of that crook at the end? :wth:

I have no idea

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Secondly, the dumbass sound effects. That really ruined it for me, they couldn't do without the Matrix-like amplified bass and shit like that. This is a movie about Jesus, effects from Die Hard have no place here. That opening scene where they fought had the classic movie sound effects, the drop that fell from heaven same thing, when he drew a line in the sand, same dumbass sound effects.

Ahh I know what you mean. I didn't like how the drop looked so horribly CG Also, the way the floor tore apart in earthquake in the temple looked too much like a set

++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Ps. Where was Peter? I was surprised to never see him again... :undecide:

In the Bible, Peter is only mentioned again when Jesus is resurrected and he goes to his disciples again

 

[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
The disciples were frightened, and even though they were Christ's disciples, they were nowhere near perfect and were often total idiots. That part is biblical and it was important in that Jesus was loving even when he was being taken to his death (healing the soldier's ear).

Mark 14:47
"Then one of those standing near drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear."

You win

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
In the Bible, Peter is only mentioned again when Jesus is resurrected and he goes to his disciples again

See this is why I said I should have read the relevant fragments, helps understanding it better.

Btw, who was the man always together with the women?

 

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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++

Btw, who was the man always together with the women?

That was the apostle John

 

[Layce Erayce]

johnny playa they used to call him. now we know why...

 

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:wth:

 

[Layce Erayce]

never did that in your church? damn pentecostals....

 

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I'm Presbyterian

 

[Layce Erayce]

oh.

 

[«ƒÕ®zå JüV€»]

hey guys i dont know if this is the right time to talk ...i know ur in a middle of somtheing but u guys know me..lool..i love to just have to sya whats on my mind..
first of all i was very surprised that they brought the movie out here in the uae considering they never do so..
they told me tye would cut out the crusifying..and they didnt another big surprise...
and my God i cannot speak so well i just came from the movie..it was soo sad! i think i cried my eyes out in this movie it is extremley sad and painful

 

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What's the point of showing the movie if they don't show the crucifixion? I think Mel Gibson would have personally put a stop to that

 

[Layce Erayce]

censorship gray. strict rules in middle eater countries. they dont even allow kissing scenes

 

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In that case, I don't think Mel would have wanted the movie shown there at all.

Showing a movie about Christ without the crucifixion and resurrection is like a Cristiano Ronaldo run without a stepover and/or dive

 

[Layce Erayce]

not your best analogy. not near your best, but i'll accept that

good point, but she said they decided to show the crucifixion

 

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++ [ originally posted by Josh ] ++
censorship gray. strict rules in middle eater countries. they dont even allow kissing scenes

WHAT WHERE HAVE U BEEN! i mean okay this is only in the local channles in the united arab emirates but united arab emirates is nothing like that..theyre more open mined i mean this was just due to religius basses..

 

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++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++
In that case, I don't think Mel would have wanted the movie shown there at all.

Showing a movie about Christ without the crucifixion and resurrection is like a Cristiano Ronaldo run without a stepover and/or dive

well it took time becuase they were cheking out the movie and seeing if there is anything that shouldnt or should but censored..
but i guess the movie was fine and it was showing in the same cinema in three diff room and it was fully booked

 

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:LOL: A movie directed by a Catholic about Jesus Christ has religious biases? No way!