The Dreamers' religious discussion thread. (4 Viewers)

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Forget that god shit, it's about loving the Jews and fuckin' the Christians and Moo-slims.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Anyway, it's not a fairy tale, it's the exact opposite. To me the fairytale would be the ability to live life freely. If I was an atheist like you, I would really be enjoying life. I'd have sex non stop and always be drunk and on drugs. I wouldn't care about people's feelings and I wouldn't care about anything in general. After all, nothing matters, so why bother? I could do whatever the hell I want and have the perfect life.

The only thing this part of your post concludes is that deep down, you're really a horrible person.

 

[.zero]

Forget that god shit, it's about loving the Jews and fuckin' the Christians and Moo-slims.

Don't forget to get your iSlam from the Apple store

 

[The Dreamer]

What are you talking about? Unless you live by yourself in the desert there is always someone to judge you. Even if you can convince me that you don't care if you have any friends and you don't care if your family tells you to go to hell, you still can't act in complete freedom, because the police will put you in jail. And noone wants to live their whole life in jail. Therefore, you can't just do anything at all.

That's true. You just enjoy more freedom than a religious person would. I just explained it in my last post, you have the luxury to do occasionaly (or as much as you want, without hurting anyone) enjoy the worldly pleasures.

What the fuck?!

Why do you fear living freely? Why do you surrender yourself to religion so easily? Don't you think that since God has not made your purpose on earth so obvious, he probably intends you to find a purpose YOU believe in and not blindly follow what some book says? Since there is no apparent purpose for our existence yet, why do you cling on to false hopes offered by religion?

What do you know for certain about the "afterlife" that you believe in religion so much? Do you know any specific details? Do you know on what exact basis does God throw you into heaven or hell? Do you know what acts he considers a sin and which ones he consider otherwise?

All of this is included in the Holy Book(s) which you refuse to read or acknowledge.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I've read almost every holy book, and I do acknowledge them. We need things to start fires with.

 

[The Dreamer]

The only thing this part of your post concludes is that deep down, you're really a horrible person.

LOL maybe. Life has really fucked me up.

 

[Martin]

That's true. You just enjoy more freedom than a religious person would. I just explained it in my last post, you have the luxury to do occasionaly (or as much as you want, without hurting anyone) enjoy the worldly pleasures.

Exactly. If you're not hurting anyone, you can do whatever you want. This is called "human life".

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

LOL maybe. Life has really fucked me up.

Nah, that was God...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Of course.

Okay, so there is hell because we have free choice, right? Why do we have free choice?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No one told me so. I just assume it. I mean if there was no one to judge me, why don't I do whatever pleases me?

Doesn't that make sense?

Yes it does. You are free to do what you please. But your knowledge about what's good and bad for you and the choices you makes based on your personality and character is what you need to base your life on. If your mind and your intentions are truly evil, then so be it. But doing good just to please an unforeseeable judge in useless. You're only fooling yourself.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Maybe. But still you have the right to experience this whenever you want. You might not constantly do it, but occasionaly you do, when you need/want to.

You can't really occasionally experience a life style IMO. You can occasionally experience aspects of it, experiment, but theres a reason its called a "lifestyle".

But what you've just said is exactly my point. I have the right to experience it, so I do sometimes. Doesn't mean I would enjoy living it as a lifestyle just because I don't believe in any real morality.

Forget that god shit, it's about loving the Jews and fuckin' the Christians and Moo-slims.

Word

The only thing this part of your post concludes is that deep down, you're really a horrible person.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

CUZ GOD DONE GAVE IT TO US, NIGGER LOVER!

 

[Bjerknes]

Hush, I'm doing god's work.

Shinebox?

Is your name Lloyd Blankfein?

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/company-news/goldman-sachs-is-doing-gods-work/19228542/

 

[The Dreamer]

Exactly. If you're not hurting anyone, you can do whatever you want. This is call "human life".

The human perfect life.

Nah, that was God...

I thought he didn't exist? Oh wait... he's only responsible for the bad things. The good things are man made. Right? That's what most aethists do... just twist facts to suit their arguments/beliefs.

Okay, so there is hell because we have free choice, right? Why do we have free choice?

So that we are responible for our acts and therefore deserve to be in heaven or hell depending on our behavior in this world.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't understand this whole, "afraid of freedom" nonsense.

Is it that they enjoy being slaves?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Anyway, it's not a fairy tale, it's the exact opposite. To me the fairytale would be the ability to live life freely. If I was an atheist like you, I would really be enjoying life. I'd have sex non stop and always be drunk and on drugs. I wouldn't care about people's feelings and I wouldn't care about anything in general. After all, nothing matters, so why bother? I could do whatever the hell I want and have the perfect life.

No joke, this describes my life in the absolute fullest definition.

:burke:

 

[Martin]

Is your name Lloyd Blankfein?

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/company-news/goldman-sachs-is-doing-gods-work/19228542/

Damn right, we play on the same team.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The human perfect life.



I thought he didn't exist? Oh wait... he's only responsible for the bad things. The good things are man made. Right? That's what most aethists do... just twist facts to suit their arguments/beliefs.



So that we are responible for our acts and therefore deserve to be in heaven or hell depending on our behavior in this world.

I was being ironic...

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

That's true. You just enjoy more freedom than a religious person would. I just explained it in my last post, you have the luxury to do occasionaly (or as much as you want, without hurting anyone) enjoy the worldly pleasures.



All of this is included in the Holy Book(s) which you refuse to read or acknowledge.

Fine, then show it to me. Answer each and every question I asked with an answer from the Holy Book YOU follow.

 

[The Dreamer]

No joke, this describes my life in the absolute fullest definition.

:burke:

I can tell you are really happy. I envy you.

Anyway, I'm off now. We'll continue tomorrow if possible...