the big match: Italy - Wales (7 Viewers)
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Hello Mate, long time no speak or argue but this is actually a good formation, i like it becasue there is no Panucci as he is terrible but for me Gatusso is only useful if you have a lot of technical players in the side and no way would he work well with Perrotta and Zanetti
I used to like Fiore but he has gone down somewhat in my eyes and he is no Totti but he is the best in the squad in that position but he is too slow and does not give first time passes like Totti does
I actually think Perrotta and Zanetti have done well for Italy as they compliment eachother and work very hard for the team
Another player who i now like a lot cos of his work rate is Corradi, he was excellent against Finland as he worked so hard to allow Totti and Dp to find space, something Vieri does not do
Oddo is a very good crosser of the ball , the best in Italy imo, not sure about the way he defends
I have the feeling Trapatoni will play Dp Inzaghi and Vieri, dont know why i feel that way but i think he will and I don't see him starting with Fiore
i think it will be something like this
----------------Buffon-----------------------------
---panucci-----------Nesta--------Cannavaro---------Zambrotta
-----Gatusso/Camo-----------Zanetti--------Perotta
--------------------------------------------------------------------Dp
--------------------------Inzaghi--------Vieri-----------
And if Italy are leading by first half 1-0 , expect Dp to come off for Delvecchio
I used to like Fiore but he has gone down somewhat in my eyes and he is no Totti but he is the best in the squad in that position but he is too slow and does not give first time passes like Totti does
I actually think Perrotta and Zanetti have done well for Italy as they compliment eachother and work very hard for the team
Another player who i now like a lot cos of his work rate is Corradi, he was excellent against Finland as he worked so hard to allow Totti and Dp to find space, something Vieri does not do
Oddo is a very good crosser of the ball , the best in Italy imo, not sure about the way he defends
I have the feeling Trapatoni will play Dp Inzaghi and Vieri, dont know why i feel that way but i think he will and I don't see him starting with Fiore
i think it will be something like this
----------------Buffon-----------------------------
---panucci-----------Nesta--------Cannavaro---------Zambrotta
-----Gatusso/Camo-----------Zanetti--------Perotta
--------------------------------------------------------------------Dp
--------------------------Inzaghi--------Vieri-----------
And if Italy are leading by first half 1-0 , expect Dp to come off for Delvecchio
I said the exact same thing after the game in the Germany/Italy thread, TRAP WILL NEVER LEARN !!!!
I have a deja vu feeling that he may go with the 4-4-2 and become defensive in the second half, after Vieri scores an early goal.
If you see DP get subbed in favor of Gattuso in the second half............. SCREAM !!!!!!!!!
I have a deja vu feeling that he may go with the 4-4-2 and become defensive in the second half, after Vieri scores an early goal.
If you see DP get subbed in favor of Gattuso in the second half............. SCREAM !!!!!!!!!
For this game i would have considered calling up Di Natale or Di Vaio.
But given the squad that Trap has called up, this what I would do:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-----Fiore------Del Piero----
-------------------Vieri----------------------
Its really unfortunate that both Totti & Miccoli are injured.
If Di Vaio was in the squad:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-------DP------Di Vaio--------
-------------------Vieri----------------------
I think that would have made more sense particulalry given the 3 attacking players behind Vieri play in the same team.
But this is the team that Trap will use against Wales:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-------DP------Delvecchio---
-------------------Vieri----------------------
This makes no sense! Di Vaio is better in that position than DV.
But given the squad that Trap has called up, this what I would do:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-----Fiore------Del Piero----
-------------------Vieri----------------------
Its really unfortunate that both Totti & Miccoli are injured.
If Di Vaio was in the squad:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-------DP------Di Vaio--------
-------------------Vieri----------------------
I think that would have made more sense particulalry given the 3 attacking players behind Vieri play in the same team.
But this is the team that Trap will use against Wales:
------------------Buffon---------------------
Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambrotta
-----------Zanetti---Perrotta-------------
-------Camo-------DP------Delvecchio---
-------------------Vieri----------------------
This makes no sense! Di Vaio is better in that position than DV.
I would prefer Di Vaio to Cassano. Simply because you don't want to throw in a 20yo youngster "who is a hothead" into a Euro qualifier when he has virtually no Azzuri experience. Besides, Di Vaio can play really well out left like he showed for Juve. He is also much more likely to score than DelV.
Given our injuries, I am getting a little worried about this match. We need a big game from Del Piero this time. He will be KEY in this match!
Given our injuries, I am getting a little worried about this match. We need a big game from Del Piero this time. He will be KEY in this match!
agreed. this match heavily relies on DP to perform. However, i think vieri could pull off a goal. Camo could set him up i guess. Im guessing the scoreline will be 3 - 1 to Italy. Italy scoring first 2 in first half. second half, wales start out better score a goal, but italy finishes off the game with another goal. Goalscorers (in order): Vieri, DP, DP 
I'm not sure about that.. trap has ruined the match already by his startup list.. no playmaker in that list..!!! + Panucci + Inzaghi + Delvecchio..
God help Italy..!!
I think the formation should be like this..
----------------------------------Buffon---------------------------------
------------------------Nesta--------------Legro----------------------
-----Cannavaro -------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------Zambrotta
--------------------------------Tacchi------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------Pirlo/Zanetti-------------
-------Camoranesi -----------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------Fiore-------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------Del Piero---------------
------------------------Vieri-----------------------------------------------
You may wonder why did I put Cannavaro as a right back.. To STOP GIGGS...
I wish italy all the best..
God help Italy..!!
I think the formation should be like this..
----------------------------------Buffon---------------------------------
------------------------Nesta--------------Legro----------------------
-----Cannavaro -------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------Zambrotta
--------------------------------Tacchi------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------Pirlo/Zanetti-------------
-------Camoranesi -----------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------Fiore-------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------Del Piero---------------
------------------------Vieri-----------------------------------------------
You may wonder why did I put Cannavaro as a right back.. To STOP GIGGS...
I wish italy all the best..
@denco: I agree that Fiore isn't the same of Totti, he is more a mielfielder, but he is the best 4 playing in a playmaker beetwin the players who have been called up, anycase he is not a playmaker too, the best it will be to have Cassano there IMO.
Del Piero cannot play as a winger, I think that Trap understood it, like I think he understood that Panucci can't play at all.
@Al Harbi: Cannavaro will never paly there, he is a central defender and he already refused to play there in Inter... beeing him the NT capitain I do not think Trap will ever ask him to play out of role. Pirlo isn't in the squad btw.
Considering that Perrotta is probably out this is the formation that I think Trap will use:
-------------------Buffon
Oddo------Cannavaro------Nesta-------Zambrotta
Camo-----Tacchinardi-------Zanetti------Fiore
----------------Del Piero--------Vieri
Than he may say that this a 4-2-3-1 whit Camo, DP and Fiore in the "3" but IMO with this kind of players who are in the squad and without any playmaker they will turn to play 4-4-2 no matter how they start cause players cannot go too mutch vs their nature.
With Totti it was an other story with Cassano or Pirlo was better but isn't a bad formation anycase, and schould be able to win over Galles.
Del Piero cannot play as a winger, I think that Trap understood it, like I think he understood that Panucci can't play at all.
@Al Harbi: Cannavaro will never paly there, he is a central defender and he already refused to play there in Inter... beeing him the NT capitain I do not think Trap will ever ask him to play out of role. Pirlo isn't in the squad btw.
Considering that Perrotta is probably out this is the formation that I think Trap will use:
-------------------Buffon
Oddo------Cannavaro------Nesta-------Zambrotta
Camo-----Tacchinardi-------Zanetti------Fiore
----------------Del Piero--------Vieri
Than he may say that this a 4-2-3-1 whit Camo, DP and Fiore in the "3" but IMO with this kind of players who are in the squad and without any playmaker they will turn to play 4-4-2 no matter how they start cause players cannot go too mutch vs their nature.
With Totti it was an other story with Cassano or Pirlo was better but isn't a bad formation anycase, and schould be able to win over Galles.
Can someone please translate this:
Nazionale al lavoro, Vieri e Delvecchio fermi
Da valutare anche le condizioni di Perrotta
COVERCIANO (Fi) - Primo allenamento della nazionale a Coverciano, in vista doppio impegno contro Galles e Serbia Montenegro per le qualificazioni all'Europeo 2004. Assenti Vieri, Delvecchio e Perrotta, alle prese con problemi fisici: il centrocampista del Chievo si è presentato con i risultati di una risonanza magnetica in seguito a un problema muscolare accusato nella prima partita di campionato a Brescia. Assente anche Fabio Cannavaro che soffre di mal di gola. Al gruppo non si sono ancora aggregati i cinque giocatori del Milan (Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Inzaghi e Abbiati) attesi nella tarda mattinata.
Nazionale al lavoro, Vieri e Delvecchio fermi
Da valutare anche le condizioni di Perrotta
COVERCIANO (Fi) - Primo allenamento della nazionale a Coverciano, in vista doppio impegno contro Galles e Serbia Montenegro per le qualificazioni all'Europeo 2004. Assenti Vieri, Delvecchio e Perrotta, alle prese con problemi fisici: il centrocampista del Chievo si è presentato con i risultati di una risonanza magnetica in seguito a un problema muscolare accusato nella prima partita di campionato a Brescia. Assente anche Fabio Cannavaro che soffre di mal di gola. Al gruppo non si sono ancora aggregati i cinque giocatori del Milan (Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Inzaghi e Abbiati) attesi nella tarda mattinata.
++ [ originally posted by -Fantasista- ] ++
Can someone please translate this:
Nazionale al lavoro, Vieri e Delvecchio fermi
Da valutare anche le condizioni di Perrotta
COVERCIANO (Fi) - Primo allenamento della nazionale a Coverciano, in vista doppio impegno contro Galles e Serbia Montenegro per le qualificazioni all'Europeo 2004. Assenti Vieri, Delvecchio e Perrotta, alle prese con problemi fisici: il centrocampista del Chievo si è presentato con i risultati di una risonanza magnetica in seguito a un problema muscolare accusato nella prima partita di campionato a Brescia. Assente anche Fabio Cannavaro che soffre di mal di gola. Al gruppo non si sono ancora aggregati i cinque giocatori del Milan (Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Inzaghi e Abbiati) attesi nella tarda mattinata.
Can someone please translate this:
Nazionale al lavoro, Vieri e Delvecchio fermi
Da valutare anche le condizioni di Perrotta
COVERCIANO (Fi) - Primo allenamento della nazionale a Coverciano, in vista doppio impegno contro Galles e Serbia Montenegro per le qualificazioni all'Europeo 2004. Assenti Vieri, Delvecchio e Perrotta, alle prese con problemi fisici: il centrocampista del Chievo si è presentato con i risultati di una risonanza magnetica in seguito a un problema muscolare accusato nella prima partita di campionato a Brescia. Assente anche Fabio Cannavaro che soffre di mal di gola. Al gruppo non si sono ancora aggregati i cinque giocatori del Milan (Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Inzaghi e Abbiati) attesi nella tarda mattinata.
Cannavaro isn't arrived yet cause he has a flu, and all the Milan players (Ambrosini, Gattuso, Nesta, Inzaghi e Abbiati) are waited 4 late morning.
As I understand the only one who can give "forfet" is Perrotta...
IIRC, Canna played right back for Italy in the WC. Of course he sucked, but I don't see why he won't play there to accomodate the threat of Giggs.
The last game was shiat, because nobody seemed to challenge Hartson for the ball, and Bellamy was all over the field. Nesta and Legro have to do their jobs, and thank God Bellas is out of this match.
We have to attack their left flank, where Giggs will leave Speed vulnerable. We should play a fast midfielder like Zambrotta there to skin Speed, because Speed isn't fast. Oh, the irony of it all.
I see Italy winning, but I hope Wales do go to Euro2004.
Cheers! :devil:
The last game was shiat, because nobody seemed to challenge Hartson for the ball, and Bellamy was all over the field. Nesta and Legro have to do their jobs, and thank God Bellas is out of this match.
We have to attack their left flank, where Giggs will leave Speed vulnerable. We should play a fast midfielder like Zambrotta there to skin Speed, because Speed isn't fast. Oh, the irony of it all.
I see Italy winning, but I hope Wales do go to Euro2004.
Cheers! :devil:
...... this situation seams to be getting worse each day 
