the big match: Italy - Wales (7 Viewers)

[denco]

++ [ originally posted by mate ] ++
@denco: I agree that Fiore isn't the same of Totti, he is more a mielfielder, but he is the best 4 playing in a playmaker beetwin the players who have been called up, anycase he is not a playmaker too, the best it will be to have Cassano there IMO.
Del Piero cannot play as a winger, I think that Trap understood it, like I think he understood that Panucci can't play at all.

@Al Harbi: Cannavaro will never paly there, he is a central defender and he already refused to play there in Inter... beeing him the NT capitain I do not think Trap will ever ask him to play out of role. Pirlo isn't in the squad btw.

Considering that Perrotta is probably out this is the formation that I think Trap will use:

-------------------Buffon

Oddo------Cannavaro------Nesta-------Zambrotta

Camo-----Tacchinardi-------Zanetti------Fiore

----------------Del Piero--------Vieri

Than he may say that this a 4-2-3-1 whit Camo, DP and Fiore in the "3" but IMO with this kind of players who are in the squad and without any playmaker they will turn to play 4-4-2 no matter how they start cause players cannot go too mutch vs their nature.

With Totti it was an other story with Cassano or Pirlo was better but isn't a bad formation anycase, and schould be able to win over Galles.

How do you mean he undesrtands Panucci cannot play at all? Did he not call him up?The reason i think Inzaghi will play is that , Trap is the kind of manager who will call up a player he has been ignoring or seem to have problems with only because he is going to play him

I do not know Trap very well but i think in his heart of hearts , he does not really fancy Fiore or Tacchinardi and I am sure if not for the media , he would not call them up at all as he has no genuine reason to drop them

I didnt think Tacchi had a good game Germany and that might counts against him whilst Trap did play Dp as a left winger against Finland and he did not do too bad

I may be the only one who would say this but tactically, I would choose Delvechio over Di vaio as Delvechio would help the midfield more and he ahs actually scored for Italy unlike Di Vaio who played against the likes of Switzerland and Northern Ireland without scoring but personally I would not have called up either

Id go for Di Natale anyday but the one person I don't wanna see there at all is Panucci

 

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[Hydde]

It seems like this time del piero will have to shine if they wanna go to the Euro.

Serbia and montenegro are 1 point behinf italy right??. They must be very careful.


Hey whats is the difference between Wales and england?. Why giggs is in wales?

 

[mate]

Panucci is sucking lately and Oddo is doing grate, so I think Oddo will play, and Panucci will sit on the bench, but I can be wrong.
Surely Trap do not extimate Tacchinardi nor Fiore nor Gattuso a lot but considering that Perrotta won't play and that he didn't call up any playmaker to replace Totti he must put some of them in the field, he has no choice. About Inzaghi: trapattoni could not leave him home cause Vieri isn't perfectly fit. IMO he will enter instead Vieri or Del Piero or start the second match, but he will not play the 90 miniutes in both match.
Del Piero vs Finland played mostly as a foward IMO... doesn't matter how they start what it count is the position they will keep... and definitly he didn't play as a winger... The only time that I remember him in this role was vs Korea in the WC... and I don't think nobody can say he did anything useful in that match...

Cannavaro: yes in the WC he played in the side (but if I'm not wrong was just one match) but now isn't necessary cause we have players 4 that role, so I don't see any reason why he schould play there...

P.S.: as you probably understand my opinion is that the best is when players play according their "nature" and not out of role... it make no sense to me to put plauyers in a role in which they cannot do so well...

 

[Vinman]

You're all wrong !!!!


In the biggest games of his NT coaching career, Trap defies ALL logic, and picks the wrong players to start, and play's a screwy formation.

Look for Gattuso to start, and Inzaghi (who hasnt scored a goal in forever !!) will start over DP

Also look for Panucci and DelVeccCHUMP to start !!!!

 

[Catenaccio]

Well Trap seems to be saying that he wants to play Inzaghi up front with Vieri. But he also said that his formation will not change that much.

This is the way I read it:

---------------Buffon---------------------

Panucci---Canna---Nesta---Zambro

---------Zanetti---Perrotta (if fit)-----

---Camo------------------Del Piero----

-----------Vieri---Inzaghi---------------

I saw Inzaghi against Ancona. He looks way off form. I would have felt much more comfortable with either Di Vaio or Corradi rather than Inzaghi.

I don't think Italy plays well with 2 strikers. They play better with 2 forwards and 1 striker. Di Vaio can be both a striker and a forward (by playing on the left).

 

[aressandro10]

that would make DP a total winger... let me see.. defensive resposibilities.. box to box run ... pace... less freedom to go forward...... yeah.. i think DP will manage .

 

[«ƒÕ®zå JüV€»]

dp could manage the impossible ..looool..he still has his strngeth unlike vieri who most recently complained that the refrees are making it hard for him, and its difficult to play soccer ok just say it vieri ur tierd!!! ur getting ooold!..loool..poor baggio he dont even complain like that!

 

[Dj Juve]

++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++
that would make DP a total winger... let me see.. defensive resposibilities.. box to box run ... pace... less freedom to go forward...... yeah.. i think DP will manage .

good point

 

[Signor]

we can't use Corradi and Vieri together, as they are the same type of player.

may be our front line Would Be more like this

==Camo==============Delvecchio==
=======Vieri=====Del piero========

 

[aressandro10]

that would be more balance.... if it didnt work we surely have delvecchio to blame as usual... take the pressure of Del Piero

 

[mate]

++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++
You're all wrong !!!!


In the biggest games of his NT coaching career, Trap defies ALL logic, and picks the wrong players to start, and play's a screwy formation.

Look for Gattuso to start, and Inzaghi (who hasnt scored a goal in forever !!) will start over DP

Also look for Panucci and DelVeccCHUMP to start !!!!

Unfortunately you are right... but hope never dies....
Looks like the formation will be the one Catenaccio wrote.
Del Piero as a winger like in the Korea match he will never learn that players have to play in their natural role.
I still do not understand why if Totti is missing we have to chance all the modules... there are a lot players who can do a good job as playmekes (Cassano, Pirlo) why did he left them home?

I really hope he will choose Oddo instead of Panucci cause Oddo is in a really good moment.

Maybe Totti will recover 4 the Serbia match... lets see...

 

[aressandro10]

hey.. guess what.. Darko kovacevic couldnt make it to the all important match agaisnt Italy in Belgrade... that would be one problem less to worried about.

 

[mate]

Really?
Also Dejan Stankovic and Sinisa Mihajlovic won't be in the match cause they are banned
This is luck! So maybe Trapattoni will stop crying about Totti and understand that every team has the same problems and he cannot go on giustifying himself with the injuries...

 

[Signor]

++ [ originally posted by aressandro10 ] ++
hey.. guess what.. Darko kovacevic couldnt make it to the all important match agaisnt Italy in Belgrade... that would be one problem less to worried about.

And why is that, from where did you get that ???

 

[Vinman]

Lets worry about Wales first... We REALLY need to punish them !!!!

Even Giggs said yesterday that Trap is a fool for waiting so long to utilize his attacking players in an attacking formation

 

[Signor]

Inzaghi stars in Italy test

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Pippo Inzaghi netted a hat-trick in the 6-1 friendly test against the Under-19 squad this afternoon, but Christian Vieri is still sidelined.

Milan hero Inzaghi, who was dropped from recent international outings, scored three goals during the first half of today’s training game.

Lazio striker Bernardo Corradi, who is the understudy to Vieri in Giovanni Trapattoni’s system, also hit the back of the net.

Alessandro Del Piero and a penalty from Lazio winger Massimo Oddo sealed the 6-1 scoreline against the European Championship-winning Under-19 side.

Vieri took part in a light training session this morning, but is still struggling to recover after picking up a knock during Inter’s 2-0 win over Modena.

Trap fielded the line-up we could see against Wales and Serbia & Montenegro for the upcoming Euro 2004 qualifiers.

The absence of the injured Francesco Totti could force the successful 4-2-3-1 system to undergo changes, returning to a more traditional creative midfielder behind the front two.

In this case, it seems that Juventus captain Del Piero will be the Totti replacement in the hole behind Inzaghi and Corradi.

There are injury worries, as Chievo’s Simone Perrotta is almost certainly out of action with a thigh problem, so Alessio Tacchinardi steps into central midfield.

There was some good news for Trapattoni, as Serbia have lost three stars familiar to Serie A followers.

Lazio’s Dejan Stankovic and Sinisa Mihajlovic are out of next Wednesday’s qualifier in Belgrade, while former Juventus striker Darko Kovacevic is sidelined with a calf strain.

Italy 6-1 Italy U19


Scorers: Inzaghi 20, 32, 37, Corradi 28, Del Piero 30, Padoin 36 (U19), Oddo pen 74


Italy: Buffon; Panucci, Nesta, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Zanetti, Tacchinardi; Del Piero; Corradi, Inzaghi


looks like Vieri will miss the game, and inzaghi, Vieri and Del Peiro will be starting as our offensive trident.

 

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i guess some ppl are stunned to see the come back of pippo i mean he (refering to trap) was like he is one of the best in italy and all but dosnet like using him alot..lool..sumthin like that..
u know i hope he dosent steal Dp spotlight in the azzurri!
totti and del piero are the most known worldwide.. i noticed alot even like in italy anyone wearing the azzurri shirt if thers a number its del piero or totti!
Anyways lets just win!loool..ok i know im wierd i change subjescts so fast just feel like talkin..

 

[Martin]

Gotta love Pippo

 

[«ƒÕ®zå JüV€»]

alex ur a fan of pippo?

 

[Martin]

Yep