Carlton have won one more than Collingwood and by the way, one of them played against Collingwood showed just another example of how dishonest Carlton are. Remember 1979 Harmes supposedly legitimately punched the ball to the goal square to win the grand final. Technically all of Carltons flags could be under review considering how habitual these acts of dishonesty have become for them
Anyway Collingwood are going to win 4 flags back to back while Judd ages into retirement and your midfield slowly begins to suck again while you continue to neglect your key positions.
