Summer Mercato Thread 2019-20 (47 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

How is selling 4 players currently on the team not hurting our depth ? So, I guess you'd be ok with playing Pinsoglio if Szczesny gets hurt.

We're getting other players in their stead and promoting a guy like Kean. We end up being stronger in the long term. Higuain is redundant/surplus to requirements. Sandro would only be a loss if he actually regains form. Costa hasn't really had much of an impact recently. Rugani would be replaced by both Romero and De Ligt.

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

No, we're not good. They are both downgrades. It's not a numbers game.

Do you agree. You said the same about Berna and spinazolla and they have proven you wrong. They are good and as of now Dybala hasnt shown he Is needed

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[Gigiventus]

Let's not sell Dybala.

Perin: 20 million
Rugani: 40 million
Sandro: 50 million
Costa: 50 million
Higuain: 30 million

That's 190 million without really hurting our starting 11 or depth. If we add another 80 million, that's 270 million to play with. De Ligt, Ndombele, Chiesa (everyone's fetish) and Zaniolo are not impossible then.

Definitely hurts our depth. Perin should remain, we won't get a better back up and he only just arrived. I see him staying for 1 more season. Higuain, Sandro and Costa I can see being sold. Sandro would require the club already having an alternative on hand, I don't know what LB could be good for us. Are we linked to anyone besides Marcelo? Rugani leaving would mean we need another CB besides the one we would already get to replace Barzagli.

 

[Orgut]

Is he?

I could see some EPL club being dumb enough to pay around €50m for Costa, on top of that Chiesa's wages would probably be way lower than Costas.

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Not that i want him...

EPL club dumb D.Costa 50M what are you talking about... D.Costa is a great player
He is superior to Chiesa in terms of skills but Chiesa is more effective
D.Costa vs Chiesa?! I`d keep D.Costa who IMO is a player who can change momentum of a game while Chiesa is going to be a bench player as he cant really start in Juventus.
Chiesa is massively overrated in here - He is a good player but he isnt on the same level of D.Costa or Bernardeschi...

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Let's not sell Dybala.

Perin: 20 million
Rugani: 40 million
Sandro: 50 million
Costa: 50 million
Higuain: 30 million

That's 190 million without really hurting our starting 11 or depth. If we add another 80 million, that's 270 million to play with. De Ligt, Ndombele, Chiesa (everyone's fetish) and Zaniolo are not impossible then.

Unless we replace a coach it would be stupid not to sell him (both for the club and player)
Dybala isnt really fulfilling his destiny here and right now you can call him 150M bench player..
I dont know what you think but I personally prefer a 150M on the field rather than an expensive sub...
If we change coach - Yeah Dybala might blossom in the new setup but unless that happens I think its stupid to keep him.
Also from Dybala`s angle - He is a player that doesnt fit the current setup and could be much better in a different setup therefore getting more play time and money.

There is no doubt about Dybala`s potential - There is a doubt about his ability to fulfill it with Juventus

P.S we wont sell Perin..
Rugani probably going to remain
A.Sandro - I wouldnt be surprised to see him leave even if we dont get Marcelo
D.Costa - Probably
Higuain - Definitely!

 

[tvrtko]

Let's not sell Dybala.

Perin: 20 million
Rugani: 40 million
Sandro: 50 million
Costa: 50 million
Higuain: 30 million

That's 190 million without really hurting our starting 11 or depth. If we add another 80 million, that's 270 million to play with. De Ligt, Ndombele, Chiesa (everyone's fetish) and Zaniolo are not impossible then.

- You can't sell Perin because you obviously need the 2nd GK lol.
- By selling Rugani and Sandro you are obviously hurting the team and depth
- Costa / Higuain: are the only ones ok on that list (Costa - only for the sake of improving our midfield/defense)

And besides that, you can't just offload tons of players. Either way, you just wrote how you would get De Ligt who could replace Rugani on that list, where's a LB there who would replace AS?

Also, please if Chiesa is your fetish, enjoy it, but don't say he's everyones' aswell.

 

[Orgut]

- You can't sell Perin because you obviously need the 2nd GK lol.
- By selling Rugani and Sandro you are obviously hurting the team and depth
- Costa / Higuain: are the only ones ok on that list (Costa - only for the sake of improving our midfield/defense)

And besides that, you can't just offload tons of players. Either way, you just wrote how you would get De Ligt who could replace Rugani on that list, where's a LB there who would replace AS?

Also, please if Chiesa is your fetish, enjoy it, but don't say he's everyones' aswell.

Everyone can be sold if you replace them...
Rugani - De Ligt
A.Sandro - LB dont know if Marcelo or someone else but I think Spinazzola is better than we thought...
Perin - Yeah its kind of stupid to sell him as the replacement cost would be at least the same and same quality..
Higuain - Yeah he is already out so no reason not to cash on him
D.Costa - I`d rather keep him but I can understand..

I`d wait to see who the coach for next season before saying sell or keep Dybala.. Obviously Dybala can get us a lot of money but its a question of value..

 

[Bianconero81]

Do you agree. You said the same about Berna and spinazolla and they have proven you wrong. They are good and as of now Dybala hasnt shown he Is needed

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They're both doing well, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Spina has played all of 3 games, and while he's been promising, that's a very small sample size. Berna put in a great performance against ATM, but he's also had his fair share of stinkers. It's not as if he is Mr. Consistency personified. You'd also be able to see that if you took off your biased Mama Italia glasses every once in a while.

As things stand, we are a team that harbors ambitions of competing for the CL year in year out. Selling Dybala for Chiesa and Zaniolo is a step in the wrong direction and a downgrade, regardless of what your Azzurrri heart might be telling you.

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Also, I wasn't saying sell without getting replacements. We obviously need a 2nd keeper, but I'm sure a cheaper option can do the job just as well as Perin. He's only played all of 5 games this season?!

Rugani is a luxury and not a necessity, especially with Romero coming in. Add another defender (De Ligt) and we're set in defense for years to come.

We have Cancelo, Spina, and De Sciglio. Sandro might be problematic to replace, but not this version of Sandro.

Costa has been absent for long stretches, and we've done well without him. Also, Cuads will be back next season. Having said that, bringing in Chiesa and Zaniolo helps with the depth issue.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

They're both doing well, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Spina has played all of 3 games, and while he's been promising, that's a very small sample size. Berna put in a great performance against ATM, but he's also had his fair share of stinkers. It's not as if he is Mr. Consistency personified. You'd also be able to see that if you took off your biased Mama Italia glasses every once in a while.

As things stand, we are a team that harbors ambitions of competing for the CL year in year out. Selling Dybala for Chiesa and Zaniolo is a step in the wrong direction and a downgrade, regardless of what your Azzurrri heart might be telling you.

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Also, I wasn't saying sell without getting replacements. We obviously need a 2nd keeper, but I'm sure a cheaper option can do the job just as well as Perin. He's only played all of 5 games this season?!

Rugani is a luxury and not a necessity, especially with Romero coming in. Add another defender (De Ligt) and we're set in defense for years to come.

We have Cancelo, Spina, and De Sciglio. Sandro might be problematic to replace, but not this version of Sandro.

Costa has been absent for long stretches, and we've done well without him. Also, Cuads will be back next season. Having said that, bringing in Chiesa and Zaniolo helps with the depth issue.

If it wasn't for the Italians we would have lost the game against Atletico

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[lgorTudor]

If it wasn't for the Italians we wouldn't have lost the game at Atletico

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[Cerval]

If it wasn't for the Italians we would have lost the game against Atletico

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The whole team put in a great performance, not only the Italians. If only the Italians would have showed up we would have lost the game against Atleti

 

[AndreaCristiano]

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Excuse me if it wasnt for spinazolla and Berna web wouldn't have won and the previous game the goals were conceded because of non Italy and

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[Bianconero81]

If it wasn't for the Italians we would have lost the game against Atletico

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Yes indeed. The Italians put 3 past ATM. The Italian team did, but I seem to recall a certain Portuguese master doing it

In any case, Spina, Chiello, and Berna played really well, but it wasn't just the Italians. Can put in an impressive shit, and Pjanic was on his game. The players were fired up and delivered, both Italians and non Italians.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The whole team put in a great performance, not only the Italians. If only the Italians would have showed up we would have lost the game against Atleti

Really both the first and last goal were because of bernadrschi without him we loose lost game

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[Cerval]

Really both the first and last goal were because of bernadrschi without him we loose lost game

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It doesn't work like this, his teammates helped him get in position to deliver and by protecting the lead, this is a team sport. You don't know as well if he didn't play or showed up someone else might have stepped up

 

[Bianconero81]

Amazing logic there AC.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

It doesn't work like this, his teammates helped him get in position to deliver and by protecting the lead, this is a team sport. You don't know as well if he didn't play or showed up someone else might have stepped up

Meh on the two goals berna did most of the work alone especially the penalty kick. Not discounting the rest of the team the whole tema played amazing but most on here discount the Italians and even future purchase of said Italians because they believe it makes us weaker but instead it makes us stronger and the national team even more so
ITALJUVE

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[Cerval]

I'm all for having an Italian core IF they are good enough. Nationalism is cancer however, that there are still people buying into that concept in this day and age is mindboggling

 

[juve123]

Meh on the two goals berna did most of the work alone especially the penalty kick. Not discounting the rest of the team the whole tema played amazing but most on here discount the Italians and even future purchase of said Italians because they believe it makes us weaker but instead it makes us stronger and the national team even more so
ITALJUVE

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The current generation of Italian players are really overrated starting with Rugani

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I'm all for having an Italian core IF they are good enough. Nationalism is cancer however, that there are still people buying into that concept in this day and age is mindboggling

Especially the current generation of Italian players most of the players are medicore maybe Zaniolo and Chiesa might fulfill their potential

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm all for having an Italian core IF they are good enough. Nationalism is cancer however, that there are still people buying into that concept in this day and age is mindboggling

Exactly. The only Italians who should play for Juve are those who are at our level. Taking chances on random Italians would be dumb.

That said, Berna looking like a great buy. He had a great (albeit brief) season last year. And was our best/2nd best performer against Atletico.

 

[Xperd]

If it wasn't for the Italians we would have lost the game against Atletico

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