Shooting in USA-thread. (21 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

The same reason most native indios stay poor in Bolivia.

Bolivia is a poor country crippled by banana Republic policies, while America is still the land of opportunity, any person with a minimum of motivation can make it in the US.

 

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[IliveForJuve]

Bolivia is a poor country crippled by banana Republic policies, while America is still the land of opportunity, any person with a minimum of motivation can make it in the US.

That was not the point I was trying to make. Obviously Bolivia is a shithole while the US is not.

If you didn't get it then it's not worth explaining.

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Anyway, back on topic.

I find it funny that people hate cops so much. As long as you're not doing anything illegal it's highly unlikely a cop will try to abuse you. And this is coming from someone who lives in the country with the most uneducated and corrupt cops in South America.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That was not the point I was trying to make. Obviously Bolivia is a shithole while the US is not.

If you didn't get it then it's not worth explaining.

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Anyway, back on topic.

I find it funny that people hate cops so much. As long as you're not doing anything illegal it's highly unlikely a cop will try to abuse you. And this is coming from someone who lives in the country with the most uneducated and corrupt cops in South America.

Disagree

 

[IliveForJuve]

Disagree

You're right. I have to clarify on this.

They do violate your rights (i.e. get in your car and search for drugs, and apply other illegal procedures). But they do not tend to get physical if you don't do anything stupid.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You're right. I have to clarify on this.

They do violate your rights (i.e. get in your car and search for drugs, and apply other illegal procedures). But they do not tend to get physical if you don't do anything stupid.

Yall have nice cops in Bolivia

 

[IliveForJuve]

Yall have nice cops in Bolivia

They just want your money Bribing a cop is the easiest thing.

Even if you don't have cash on you, they'll nicely escort you to an ATM to get their share.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Disagree

How many times were you abused by cops while in the US

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

How many times were you abused by cops while in the US

He wasn't talking about only American cops I think

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They just want your money Bribing a cop is the easiest thing.

Even if you don't have cash on you, they'll nicely escort you to an ATM to get their share.

True that

 

[GordoDeCentral]

He wasn't talking about only American cops I think

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True that

Have you seen the movie tropa de elite?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Have you seen the movie tropa de elite?

Yeah, don't remember much about it but I enjoyed it. Why?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah, don't remember much about it but I enjoyed it. Why?

I think it described really well the dynamics of crime vs authoritarian methods vs civil rights vs market economy vs broken democracies. The problem is not the system, the problem is in men.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think it described really well the dynamics of crime vs authoritarian methods vs civil rights vs market economy vs broken democracies. The problem is not the system, the problem is in men.

Maybe you're right, but men are the same everywhere. Some places just have better systems

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Maybe you're right, but men are the same everywhere. Some places just have better systems

Yep some cultures are more encouraging of sacrifice which therefore translates to success, germans Japanese and jews tend to adhere to sime self discipline which helps them flourish in modern societies. Also check out this vid regarding systems which encourage less corruption

 

[ALC]

2 questions, can you ensure your safety and that of loved ones without police presence? Also would you be able to do a better job had you been a cop?

Well, I've never had the pleasure of having the police ensure the safety of my loved ones or myself.

A better job than what? If I were a cop, I wouldn't shoot someone I pulled over, I can tell you that.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yep some cultures are more encouraging of sacrifice which therefore translates to success, germans Japanese and jews tend to adhere to sime self discipline which helps them flourish in modern societies. Also check out this vid regarding systems which encourage less corruption

Yes I agree, culture plays a big part.

Nice video

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Well, I've never had the pleasure of having the police ensure the safety of my loved ones or myself.

A better job than what? If I were a cop, I wouldn't shoot someone I pulled over, I can tell you that.

Your first answer is preposterous to say the least.

As for your second, i don't think you realize how tough of job it is in general, and in inner cities in particular.

 

[king Ale]

Your first answer is preposterous to say the least.

As for your second, i don't think you realize how tough of job it is in general, and in inner cities in particular.

Why would you ask the second question at all if you're rejecting any answer except the one you think is the right answer? I wouldn't shoot Philando Castile, I wouldn't kill Eric Garner, and I wouldn't shoot a man who is running away from me (Walter Scott), and if I knew I would abuse my power like that I'd find a job that wouldn't risk people's lives. But of course you'd say my answer is wrong because I don't realize how tough a job it is but then what's the point of asking the question you ask? Now a better question (I truly want to know the answer) is does a jury member who has to decide on such cases need to have some sort of experience in law enforcement? Because it seems to be a very important criterion to assess the validity of people's opinions in this thread.

 

[JBF]

Yep some cultures are more encouraging of sacrifice which therefore translates to success, germans Japanese and jews tend to adhere to sime self discipline which helps them flourish in modern societies. Also check out this vid regarding systems which encourage less corruption

The Yakuza and the well established israeli drug, arms-trafficking and prostitution mafias would disagree.

The German model though I agree with. It is a peculiar case as well, since in Germany most crime syndicates and shady business are operated by immigrants or Germans from immigration backgrounds.

 

[Mohad]

Why are Nigerian, west indians and other black immigrants successful in America but native ones aren't.

Slavery is the main reason I can think of.

Most of the black immigrants (if not all) didn't come to America with empty brain.

 

[Osman]

The Yakuza and the well established israeli drug, arms-trafficking and prostitution mafias would disagree.

The German model though I agree with. It is a peculiar case as well, since in Germany most crime syndicates and shady business are operated by immigrants or Germans from immigration backgrounds.

This is such a random post and has little to do with his point.