++ [ originally posted by Sparty ] ++
To call someone ignorant is not an insult. Is just telling them that they ignore the facts.
No its not true. I want Miccoli not because he scored against Siena which is a low team, but because the kid deserves to be a starter. Everytime Miccoli steps in the field u can totally sense that something will happen. He is an amazing player that needs to feel confidence around to exploit his qualities. Everytime time DP steps on the field I yawn...
Del Piero's carrer
2002/2003 JUVENTUS Serie A 24 16
2001/2002 JUVENTUS Serie A 32 16
2000/2001 JUVENTUS Serie A 25 9
1999/2000 JUVENTUS Serie A 34 9
1998/1999 JUVENTUS Serie A 8 2
1997/1998 JUVENTUS Serie A 32 21
1996/1997 JUVENTUS Serie A 22 8
1995/1996 JUVENTUS Serie A 29 6
1994/1995 JUVENTUS Serie A 29 8
1993/1994 JUVENTUS Serie A 11 5
R.Baggio's Carrer
2002/2003 BRESCIA Serie A 32 12
2001/2002 BRESCIA Serie A 12 11
2000/2001 BRESCIA Serie A 25 10
1999/2000 INTER Serie A 18 4
1998/1999 INTER Serie A 23 5
1997/1998 BOLOGNA Serie A 30 22
1996/1997 MILAN Serie A 23 5
1995/1996 MILAN Serie A 28 7
1994/1995 JUVENTUS Serie A 17 8
1993/1994 JUVENTUS Serie A 32 17
1992/1993 JUVENTUS Serie A 27 21
1991/1992 JUVENTUS Serie A 32 18
1990/1991 JUVENTUS Serie A 33 14
I'll let u do the math...please don't remark the yr with Milan and Inter cuz when a coach hates u, there is very little u can do about it. Its very absurd that u try to critcize R.Baggio cuz at his 37 yrs he still shows the world that can still woops ass and don't forget that Baggio has a huge knee problems that he has been carrying with him all his carrer...
Have u seen Italy against Spain...man after 4 yrs that he is out of Europe and despite is age he still an amazing player he almost scored twice and always creates danger only with his presence...DP dreams about having half of what Baggio has in his left foot which is not his good one. Have u seen the goal scored against lazio or his pass? Have u seen DP's performance against Lazio in the final?
Yes I agree with u that is not easy to carry the team on ur shoulder but when did DP do that? I mean honestly he is supposed to be our figure, the player that makes the difference...but I never see him doing that...he is not that type of player no more. He was in the past, but not anymore now is just a mere figure of what he was that lives on in the memory of how good he was...I don't need a player like that in my team as also don't need Nedved anymore, a hell of a player don't get me wrong, but a player that already has reached his peak and that can only go down from here on. Furthemore I never liked him as a playmaker I rather have another type of player.
No I definetly agree with u I don't blame DP for Juve's performances. I never did. I'm only saying that Miccoli deserves to be a starter and that we need a coach with balls that puts in bench players that are out of form and not letting them stay because of their past...same thing goes for Nedved that after his golden ball hasn't done shit.
I hope that Juve next yr approaches a better philosophy of the game playing a more technical footbal, based on passes and control and not on long balls like we did this yr which was really pathetic. Its a shame to watch ur fav team gettin owned by Deportivo and to see that everytime we had the ball in our mid we had no clue what to do with it...
I have read you so many times saying that Dp has done "shit" in the 2000s but in the 4 seasons you have quoted up there , I see he has scored 50 serieA goals and if we took Baggios 4 years at Milan and Inter where he was bought to win scudetto , he scored an amazingly high 21 goals
Now somehow Dp is an abject failure but Baggio is the greatest player ever
I hate to always seem like I am attacking Baggio but with the greatest respect to some of his more reasonable fans, some of his fanatics are living in cuckoo land
How dare you mention the Spain game
1) Spain are never interestted in friendlies
2) They were aware of the situation and so did not really put everything into tackling Baggio , gave him the respect and room to manouvre just like Milan tried to do on sunday
The Miccolli you keep campaining about must lack something in Lippi's eyes otherwise he would constantly play him
For all the dislike we keep saying that Lippi has for young players, he did play Maresca enuff times this season and Appiah was a constsant, he just had to get his balance right
Remind me again how many goals Miccolli scored for Perugia
I keep on saying it, the guy has an amazing shot and some nice touches but he is not your main event, he is not the show stopper
And he was given his chance this season, he just didnt take it with both hands
Dp was not there when we were comprehensively beaten by Roma 4-0, Milan 3-1, Inter 3-2 when it should have been 5-1, Lazio in the cup 2-0
No his replacements were there but they do not get stick from mainly the pro-Baggio group who have never and will never forgive the guy for taking the place of their hero and use the guise of "we want the best for the club" to cover up what has always been their resentment
You mention Vialli, interesting how you mention him, was it not when Baggio was finally out of the way that Vialli came into his own and witht he help of Dp led us to our first scudetto in many a year and Cl they year after?
Dont worry Sparty , Dp's era is coming to a close, just bear with it for a few more seasons and besides if he does go whom will you blame for our woes