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I did not criticise Baggio, I am analysing your post, from your posts you said we suck because we came third and whenever we won the league its nothing to do with Dp and when we lose its nothing to do with Dp either but you want him out because he earns far too much money without contributing
Now I have asked whether when we were actually in a worse state when we definitely were than we are now, whether you were this critical of Juventus and I still have not had an answer to that question
If I am to get from your posts, does this mean if we came 3 or 4th and Dp scored 20 goals in a season you would have forgiven him?
You said Baggio's goals saved us, well from what, actually, relegation? Pardon me , I didnt know when we spent £8m for him at the time, it was not for him to lead us to scudetto and European success, I should have realised its for his goals to lead us into Uefa
Now Dp has been with Juve since 94 as an active member and only once did we finish 7th and he missed most of that season, we were on top before his injury but we finished 7th with a change in manager by the end we were 7th, never mind we still had Davids, Deschamps, Inzaghi, Zidane, Montero etc
The rest whether he has played well or not we had either finished 1st or 2nd , till this season, yes you would mentioned he only scored penalties but we still won points .
If nooen wants dp, fine then we will keep him, after all who would cause the topics of interesting debate on here, Zebina?
Now I have asked whether when we were actually in a worse state when we definitely were than we are now, whether you were this critical of Juventus and I still have not had an answer to that question
If I am to get from your posts, does this mean if we came 3 or 4th and Dp scored 20 goals in a season you would have forgiven him?
You said Baggio's goals saved us, well from what, actually, relegation? Pardon me , I didnt know when we spent £8m for him at the time, it was not for him to lead us to scudetto and European success, I should have realised its for his goals to lead us into Uefa
Now Dp has been with Juve since 94 as an active member and only once did we finish 7th and he missed most of that season, we were on top before his injury but we finished 7th with a change in manager by the end we were 7th, never mind we still had Davids, Deschamps, Inzaghi, Zidane, Montero etc
The rest whether he has played well or not we had either finished 1st or 2nd , till this season, yes you would mentioned he only scored penalties but we still won points .
If nooen wants dp, fine then we will keep him, after all who would cause the topics of interesting debate on here, Zebina?
++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
I did not criticise Baggio, I am analysing your post, from your posts you said we suck because we came third and whenever we won the league its nothing to do with Dp and when we lose its nothing to do with Dp either but you want him out because he earns far too much money without contributing
Now I have asked whether when we were actually in a worse state when we definitely were than we are now, whether you were this critical of Juventus and I still have not had an answer to that question
If I am to get from your posts, does this mean if we came 3 or 4th and Dp scored 20 goals in a season you would have forgiven him?
You said Baggio's goals saved us, well from what, actually, relegation? Pardon me , I didnt know when we spent £8m for him at the time, it was not for him to lead us to scudetto and European success, I should have realised its for his goals to lead us into Uefa
Now Dp has been with Juve since 94 as an active member and only once did we finish 7th and he missed most of that season, we were on top before his injury but we finished 7th with a change in manager by the end we were 7th, never mind we still had Davids, Deschamps, Inzaghi, Zidane, Montero etc
The rest whether he has played well or not we had either finished 1st or 2nd , till this season, yes you would mentioned he only scored penalties but we still won points .
If nooen wants dp, fine then we will keep him, after all who would cause the topics of interesting debate on here, Zebina?
I did not criticise Baggio, I am analysing your post, from your posts you said we suck because we came third and whenever we won the league its nothing to do with Dp and when we lose its nothing to do with Dp either but you want him out because he earns far too much money without contributing
Now I have asked whether when we were actually in a worse state when we definitely were than we are now, whether you were this critical of Juventus and I still have not had an answer to that question
If I am to get from your posts, does this mean if we came 3 or 4th and Dp scored 20 goals in a season you would have forgiven him?
You said Baggio's goals saved us, well from what, actually, relegation? Pardon me , I didnt know when we spent £8m for him at the time, it was not for him to lead us to scudetto and European success, I should have realised its for his goals to lead us into Uefa
Now Dp has been with Juve since 94 as an active member and only once did we finish 7th and he missed most of that season, we were on top before his injury but we finished 7th with a change in manager by the end we were 7th, never mind we still had Davids, Deschamps, Inzaghi, Zidane, Montero etc
The rest whether he has played well or not we had either finished 1st or 2nd , till this season, yes you would mentioned he only scored penalties but we still won points .
If nooen wants dp, fine then we will keep him, after all who would cause the topics of interesting debate on here, Zebina?
Now am I to crucify to tell my opinion that I want a more effective foward? I don't think so. R.Baggio did more than enough like I said previously when he played with Juve and the goals that he scored and the team against he scored are a proof of that. He was a very influential player that always stepped up and carry the team on his shoulder. Watch the UEFA Cup final and u will see what I mean. He wasn't the problem of Juve at that time. I can assure u that. Is like criticizing Totti for not winning the scudetto this year with Roma, after he gave his best, can u say the same thing of DP? I really don't think so.
Yes he had two injuries that took him almost two months but he takes other 6 to recover, honestly I don't think is normal...R.Baggio at 35 the year before the korean World cup had a tremendous injury that took him almost all his season out and he recoverd incredibly in a record time playing really good in time and he is 35 and with two fragile knees that he has been carrying all his carreer...how come DP with 29 takes him so much freaking long? Excuses to his poor season? maybe...
Is not only DP. I think Inzaghi was horrible and the guy at least scored goals, but if u count the one he missed oh my god...Nedved is a very charismatic player and for me the guy that helped Juve win the last two scudetto's, but I think he should be sold. I don't think is gonna give much more to Juve.He reached his peek and I think it will be all downhill from now on.
I want the best for Juve and really care nothing about icons or at least I care about Icons that can still give Juve a big contribution and not living in the memories of what he gave to our team...
Denco with a hand in ur heart do u dare to tell me that DP is more effective than a Miccoli for example?
OK, i found an easy way to finish with Del Piero discussion. Is as simple as A+B= C....
A).- Alessandro del Piero is a shitty, crappy, wimpy player that has made and inmense, huge fortune by managing to survive in the Juventus rooster BECAUSE, and JUST BECAUSE he is a caprice, a favourite, a weakness of the Agnelli Family.....
B).- Unfortunately, the Agnelli family is supossed to be the major shareholders of the company named Juventus FC..
.They has been controlling and manipulating the team for the last seventy years.:down:..As a matter of fact, theyre responsible for paying crapy Del Piero the mounstrous wage he recives
.....
C) The Agnelli family recognises that the presence of Crapy Del Piero is inadmisible will be not tolerated for many people
..but they have no problem if you support any other team you prefer....Madrid:notlist:, Arsenal:extatic:, Milan:excited:, Manchester:embarass:, Inter
, whatever.... There will be no hard feelings... :thumb:
A).- Alessandro del Piero is a shitty, crappy, wimpy player that has made and inmense, huge fortune by managing to survive in the Juventus rooster BECAUSE, and JUST BECAUSE he is a caprice, a favourite, a weakness of the Agnelli Family.....
B).- Unfortunately, the Agnelli family is supossed to be the major shareholders of the company named Juventus FC..
.They has been controlling and manipulating the team for the last seventy years.:down:..As a matter of fact, theyre responsible for paying crapy Del Piero the mounstrous wage he recives..... C) The Agnelli family recognises that the presence of Crapy Del Piero is inadmisible will be not tolerated for many people
..but they have no problem if you support any other team you prefer....Madrid:notlist:, Arsenal:extatic:, Milan:excited:, Manchester:embarass:, Inter, whatever.... There will be no hard feelings... :thumb:
++ [ originally posted by Eaglesnake_1 ] ++
OK, i found an easy way to finish with Del Piero discussion. Is as simple as A+B= C....
A).- Alessandro del Piero is a shitty, crappy, wimpy player that has made and inmense, huge fortune by managing to survive in the Juventus rooster BECAUSE, and JUST BECAUSE he is a caprice, a favourite, a weakness of the Agnelli Family.....
B).- Unfortunately, the Agnelli family is supossed to be the major shareholders of the company named Juventus FC...They has been controlling and manipulating the team for the last seventy years.:down:..As a matter of fact, theyre responsible for paying crapy Del Piero the mounstrous wage he recives.....
C) The Agnelli family recognises that the presence of Crapy Del Piero is inadmisible will be not tolerated for many people..but they have no problem if you support any other team you prefer....Madrid:notlist:, Arsenal:extatic:, Milan:excited:, Manchester:embarass:, Inter, whatever.... There will be no hard feelings... :thumb:
OK, i found an easy way to finish with Del Piero discussion. Is as simple as A+B= C....
A).- Alessandro del Piero is a shitty, crappy, wimpy player that has made and inmense, huge fortune by managing to survive in the Juventus rooster BECAUSE, and JUST BECAUSE he is a caprice, a favourite, a weakness of the Agnelli Family.....
B).- Unfortunately, the Agnelli family is supossed to be the major shareholders of the company named Juventus FC..
.They has been controlling and manipulating the team for the last seventy years.:down:..As a matter of fact, theyre responsible for paying crapy Del Piero the mounstrous wage he recives..... C) The Agnelli family recognises that the presence of Crapy Del Piero is inadmisible will be not tolerated for many people
..but they have no problem if you support any other team you prefer....Madrid:notlist:, Arsenal:extatic:, Milan:excited:, Manchester:embarass:, Inter, whatever.... There will be no hard feelings... :thumb:
it's really too much.
del piero used to be a fantastic player and injuries got him behind.
he can still give to juventus.
and he is not crappy....
stop calling our captaoin like this for god's sake.....
basically the argument is useless. interesting though to see both sides. and in the end juve is not gonna let go of DP anyways.
I think that our BODs love del piero very much, so I don't think even with that salary they would let him go even if he underperforms. should the financial state get worse though, I would still like to see some offer like a pay cut be made. And I don't really care if it's Del Piero or the club that offers as long as the offer is made
I think that our BODs love del piero very much, so I don't think even with that salary they would let him go even if he underperforms. should the financial state get worse though, I would still like to see some offer like a pay cut be made. And I don't really care if it's Del Piero or the club that offers as long as the offer is made
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