By the way, it was cool seeing some of our former players own us, as in Miccoli and Balzaretti showing up Amauri and Grosso, respectively. It's actually something I don't mind seeing. Good for them.
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[Serie A] Palermo 2-0 Juventus, Oct 4th, 2009 (34 Viewers)
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The weaknesses we showed tonight (and God knows there were too many weaknesses) weren't just a "bad night" for our players. It was obvious that the problems tonight were much bigger than "bad night".
Sure, not having a good night made everything look worse than it actually is, but our problems were there for everyone to see.
My main worry is the way we were caught on counters and how the midfielders had no strength to come back and help the defense. Also, the attitude of most of our players was disgusting. They kept giving up whenever they'd lose the ball. Even Iaquinta, who's a fighter, was losing the ball and then simply stop.
Sure, not having a good night made everything look worse than it actually is, but our problems were there for everyone to see.
My main worry is the way we were caught on counters and how the midfielders had no strength to come back and help the defense. Also, the attitude of most of our players was disgusting. They kept giving up whenever they'd lose the ball. Even Iaquinta, who's a fighter, was losing the ball and then simply stop.
no fuck was the formation
this is not juve
4321 was not new for him.,, its about the fcking midfields(not active) specially camo the moody(not even a3 very good pass from hundreds) plus the other bull melo was awful.
some ppl blame iaq-ama,, how could they score with those fkrs in the middle.
This is really bullshit & ferrara was the dump today..
this is not juve
4321 was not new for him.,, its about the fcking midfields(not active) specially camo the moody(not even a3 very good pass from hundreds) plus the other bull melo was awful.
some ppl blame iaq-ama,, how could they score with those fkrs in the middle.
This is really bullshit & ferrara was the dump today..
Well, Gio will be doing exactly that to us soon enough I'm sure.
Really the only thing I liked was seeing our ex-juve Players playing excellent. Balzareti did okay under Capello why did we sell him and buy fucking Molinaro, same shit goes to Nocerino and Poulsen, If we had kept Nocerino instead of Poulsen he would have done a lot better at least his spirit, he would have given 100% and less yearly income. Fucking bullshit we should close our primavera cos it's haunting us!
As for Felipe Melo...... for two matches in a row he makes bad mistakes that lead to goals.
Now, those mistakes, even though many will blame them solely on Melo, i blame them 50% on him and 50% on the other midfielders.
Yeah, Melo wants to make complicated passes which from time to time will cost us dearly. But more often than not, the dude is forced to make such passes because nobody bloody cares to open up so Melo can make a simple pass to him.
Our off the ball movement is simply terrible. Most of the time Melo must make a super complicated pass in order to find our only free player.
I'm not thinking clearly now, so it might make no sense at all, but since our passing game in midfield is shitty already, at least we can add some movement there and play Marchisio-Sissoko next to Melo.
Then add Diego and Giovinco in front of them and play with only one striker, at least until Ale is back.
Playing with two strikers is useless now since they hardly get the ball and when they do they're surrounded by 2 or 3 players. With Melo, Sissoko and Marchisio we can at least win the midfield and with Diego and Seba we might do something up front.
The wings will be vulnerable again, but with Marchisio and Sissoko we'll cover more ground and help the wings more than we do with Poulsen and Camo.
Now, those mistakes, even though many will blame them solely on Melo, i blame them 50% on him and 50% on the other midfielders.
Yeah, Melo wants to make complicated passes which from time to time will cost us dearly. But more often than not, the dude is forced to make such passes because nobody bloody cares to open up so Melo can make a simple pass to him.
Our off the ball movement is simply terrible. Most of the time Melo must make a super complicated pass in order to find our only free player.
I'm not thinking clearly now, so it might make no sense at all, but since our passing game in midfield is shitty already, at least we can add some movement there and play Marchisio-Sissoko next to Melo.
Then add Diego and Giovinco in front of them and play with only one striker, at least until Ale is back.
Playing with two strikers is useless now since they hardly get the ball and when they do they're surrounded by 2 or 3 players. With Melo, Sissoko and Marchisio we can at least win the midfield and with Diego and Seba we might do something up front.
The wings will be vulnerable again, but with Marchisio and Sissoko we'll cover more ground and help the wings more than we do with Poulsen and Camo.
I think the blame should go mainly to the choice of fullbacks. Both of them are very offensive, both of them are going forward and we are ending up with two defenders at back, and now we have lazy/off form Melo next to clueless Poulsen, they did nothing to stop the counter attacks and Palermo easily attacked from the wings. It is clear that this 3 man midfield will not help us defensively. If we want to use these fullbacks we have, we have to play with 4 players at least in midfield with RM and LM.
The problem of this team is defensive, we were not that terrible in creating attacks, thou we killed that too later with the subs. It shouldn't be so hard to fix the problem, once we fixed the full back problems, with getting better players, this team can play good football again. Since we can't buy players now, so we better change formation. 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1.
The problem of this team is defensive, we were not that terrible in creating attacks, thou we killed that too later with the subs. It shouldn't be so hard to fix the problem, once we fixed the full back problems, with getting better players, this team can play good football again. Since we can't buy players now, so we better change formation. 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1.
same routine sceanrio ever since our game with bordeuax...we suffer to create half a chance then our opponents go on a counter and we all pray buffon can bail us again
bordeaux,bayern,palermo,bologna and genoa all outplayed us bcuz of these problems...no hunger,desire and consistency whatsoever which is baffling as we know inter havent gotten their shit straight either the last few games and to prove against europe's lite teams that we are back
i really hate watching them play bcuz every game besides the roma one this season has been an utter disappointment
bordeaux,bayern,palermo,bologna and genoa all outplayed us bcuz of these problems...no hunger,desire and consistency whatsoever which is baffling as we know inter havent gotten their shit straight either the last few games and to prove against europe's lite teams that we are back
i really hate watching them play bcuz every game besides the roma one this season has been an utter disappointment
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