[Serie A] Calciopoli Directors vs JUVENTUS (October 18, 2015) (15 Viewers)

Kopanja

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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I haven't seen Kondogbia do anything other with the ball than passing it to the nearest teammate.
Come on, in Monaco against us he had some impressive moments, even dribbled. It's Mancini fault that he doesn't show much here and/or he needs some time to adjust to Seria.
 

_OC_

Junior Member
Sep 25, 2015
58
I haven't seen Kondogbia do anything other with the ball than passing it to the nearest teammate.
He has shown glimpses of incredible (for a defensive midfielder) technical ability, and although he's never going to make a killer pass like Pirlo or dribble past players like Messi, he can do much more going forward than Medel or Melo or Guarin (if he has one of his off-days, which happens ninety percent of the time.)

oh I meant since he joined merda. Havent really watched Monaco to judge
So you're judging him on the first 7 games of the season, if even that?

Going by that logic, Pogba wouldn't look out of place at Frosinone.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,292
Great input.



As in 'yeah, whilst comparing Handanovic's and Buffons careers and abilities over the last 15 years, I've come to the conclusion that the former is better than the latter"?
No.

As in 'Handanovic is a better goalkeeper than Buffon, and has been for at least the last 3 years'? Absolutely.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone non-Juve affiliated who would argue that either Bonucci or the Barzagli who's basically paid the country's GDP in hosptial bills, are better players than Miranda, who along with Godin won the league for Atletico ahead of teams like Barca and Real.
Medel is basically nominated for the Ballon d'Or based on his appearences for Chile in a 3-man defense, and was among the top 3 players at the Copa America. Take that for what you want.
Murillo is probably harder to make a case for, but he's a great talent.



ehh...



Have you met pot?



Compared to Guarin, who you'll never know what will bring to the table, he'll provide more on both the offensive and defensive side. He has thus far, anyway, if you look away from assists and goals.
Well,only Inter fans can give statements like you do in your post.
Handanovic a better goalkeeper in the last 3 years?Sure,sure Especially last three years.He didn't concede that much goals.In my opinion Cesar was /is much better keeper than hHandanovic.C'mon you can't compare Handanovic with Gigi.He is one and only, liked you or not.Handanovic is good at penalties and overall good keepers but Gigi ,even at this age is in another league comparing to Handanovic.
What is that shit about Bonucci at hospital?He was healthy all these years.Barzagli was injured and only last year but not Bonucci.Maybe you don't watch Serie A with this statement.Both Bonucci/Barzagli are better than Miranda.He wins the title with Godin,so?Barzagli/Bonucci won 4 consecutive titles,remember?And our defense last years conceded least in Europe.So don't write something which doesn't hold water.By the way having in mind injuries Jovetic is the healthiest player in the world.One game-three months out.
Medel was a Ballon d'OR nominee,so?Like 100 other players.At least 4 from Juve among them.He is a butcher and that is.Muscle and no brain. You are so biased.
No I don't met a pot but maybe you do with this statements.
You need 20 years to accomplish our number of titles.Or another Calciopolli.
Murillo is a talent.What about Rugani?

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He has shown glimpses of incredible (for a defensive midfielder) technical ability, and although he's never going to make a killer pass like Pirlo or dribble past players like Messi, he can do much more going forward than Medel or Melo or Guarin (if he has one of his off-days, which happens ninety percent of the time.)



So you're judging him on the first 7 games of the season, if even that?

Going by that logic, Pogba wouldn't look out of place at Frosinone.
Anyone can do better going forward than those three.
 

_OC_

Junior Member
Sep 25, 2015
58
Well,only Inter fans can give statements like you do in your post.
Handanovic a better goalkeeper in the last 3 years?Sure,sure Especially last three years.He didn't concede that much goals.In my opinion Cesar was /is much better keeper than hHandanovic.C'mon you can't compare Handanovic with Gigi.He is one and only, liked you or not.Handanovic is good at penalties and overall good keepers but Gigi ,even at this age is in another league comparing to Handanovic.
What is that $#@! about Bonucci at hospital?He was healthy all these years.Barzagli was injured and only last year but not Bonucci.Maybe you don't watch Serie A with this statement.Both Bonucci/Barzagli are better than Miranda.He wins the title with Godin,so?Barzagli/Bonucci won 4 consecutive titles,remember?And our defense last years conceded least in Europe.So don't write something which doesn't hold water.By the way having in mind injuries Jovetic is the healthiest player in the world.One game-three months out.
Medel was a Ballon d'OR nominee,so?Like 100 other players.At least 4 from Juve among them.He is a butcher and that is.Muscle and no brain. You are so biased.
No I don't met a pot but maybe you do with this statements.
You need 20 years to accomplish our number of titles.Or another Calciopolli.
Murillo is a talent.What about Rugani?
You keep calling me biased, and then you go on a rant like that^
If you don't recognize that Handanovic is the superior player (not historically, but I don't care what happened in the past, that way Pele is still the best player in the world), which is almost an universal fact by anyone that follows Serie A - I'd suggest you scout other forums, you've probably only watched Juventus matches since like, ever.
The hospital comment was pointed at Barzagli only. Simply because he has a recent history of being out because of injury. Like, half a season last year. He's a great player though, but I have doubts whether he can return to the form that made him, in my opinon, better than half-man/half-nose ever was. I find Bonucci to be vastly overrated because of his abilities with the ball at his feet (which is a rarity for central defenders) and fortunately for him, his shortcomings have often been covered by the partners at his sides.

Rugani is a talent who hasn't seen one minute of football for Juventus. Murillo would, if fit, start anyday, everyday. There's the difference.

Anyone can do better going forward than those three.
Hmm, if you take assists and goals into account Melo and Guarin combined have more than than Hernanes/Pogba/Sturaro/Padoin/Lemina who have played the majority of your games.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Handanović better than Buffon :lol2:

I've heard it all now.

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If you don't recognize that Handanovic is the superior player, which is almost an universal fact by anyone that follows Serie A
Most people that follow calcio would mock you for this statement. You gotta be trolling.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,292
You keep calling me biased, and then you go on a rant like that^
If you don't recognize that Handanovic is the superior player (not historically, but I don't care what happened in the past, that way Pele is still the best player in the world), which is almost an universal fact by anyone that follows Serie A - I'd suggest you scout other forums, you've probably only watched Juventus matches since like, ever.
The hospital comment was pointed at Barzagli only. Simply because he has a recent history of being out because of injury. Like, half a season last year. He's a great player though, but I have doubts whether he can return to the form that made him, in my opinon, better than half-man/half-nose ever was. I find Bonucci to be vastly overrated because of his abilities with the ball at his feet (which is a rarity for central defenders) and fortunately for him, his shortcomings have often been covered by the partners at his sides.

Rugani is a talent who hasn't seen one minute of football for Juventus. Murillo would, if fit, start anyday, everyday. There's the difference.



Hmm, if you take assists and goals into account Melo and Guarin combined have more than than Hernanes/Pogba/Sturaro/Padoin/Lemina who have played the majority of your games.
But you mentioned that Bonucci is an injury prone like Barzagli.You mentioned both.Now you say it was only about Barzagli.He was injured only last year.You be calm and keep Jovetic healthy.One match fit-three months injured.Don't worry about our players.
If you think that Handanovic is better than Gigi(even at this age) there is no point for further discussion.
What about other"champions" like Miranda,Medel etc?You don't answer about that.
I watched all Serie A games this season,Inter included. Padoin played only two games.So this shows that you don't even watch a single minute of Juve by saying that he played the majority of the games.
It is worthless further discussion.
Go on merda site and exchange opinions how "good" your players are and enjoy .There is the only place where your players are rated high.

Not starting Rugani means that we have more experienced players at the moment.Watch the careers of your player compared to Rugani in the future.You will see the biiiiig difference.
 

_OC_

Junior Member
Sep 25, 2015
58
But you mentioned that Bonucci is an injury prone like Barzagli.You mentioned both.Now you say it was only about Barzagli.
I didn't. If you want to, add a comma, but the sentence makes sense gramatically just fine as it stands.

What about other"champions" like Miranda,Medel etc?You don't answer about that.
What do you want me to answer? The idiotic notion that you can't be a good player because you're all brawns, no brains? The fuck was Gattuso then?

I watched all Serie A games this season,Inter included. Padoin played only two games.So this shows that you don't even watch a single minute of Juve by saying that he played the majority of the games.
That GROUP of players have played the majority of games, combined to someone like Khedira who's had one match.

Not starting Rugani means that we have more experienced players at the moment.Watch the careers of your player compared to Rugani in the future.You will see the biiiiig difference.
Just like Marrone, right?

Kopanja said:
Buffon was gk of the year in Seria A 2 times in the last 3 years. stop trolling or gtfo.
I know - official award ceremonies are always the best indicator of real quality. Say hello to former "Best Player in the World" Michael Owen for me, will you?
 

Kopanja

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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I know - official award ceremonies are always the best indicator of real quality. Say hello to former "Best Player in the World" Michael Owen for me, will you?
What is best gk in Seria A award has to do with Michael Owen? Are you drunk?

To clarify, yes, I'd always trust Seria A Team of the Year rating before I'd listen to such baseless statements like "If you don't recognize that Handanovic is the superior player which is almost an universal fact by anyone that follows Serie A - I'd suggest you scout other forums". The bolded part is the best, like football funs are less retarted than France Football.
 

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