Road to WC2006 (25 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


Comparing just doesn't cut it Andy.

1-I don't know how it is in christianity, but in Islam we see any Muslim as a brethrens. As I said in a previous post, why would an Indonesian Muslim, pray everyday for the people of Palastine or Iraq? Its that feeling of brethrenship we have.

In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

 

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[Martin]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

I was gonna say..

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


Erm, so by some logic here the World Cup should only be comprised of christians vs. muslims, hindus vs. buddhists, and atheists vs. agnostics...what a football tournament that would be.

Are you ignoring my posts on purpose? Please Andy, don't push it. This is how they believe, either respect it or just don't comment (I am not commenting).

 

[Zé Tahir]

++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++


[offtopic]
altought it has nothing to do with this topic,In my religion it says we all of human beings are all brothers and sisters,and not just Christians only,I feel sorry that your religion teaches you seperation,and consider us strangers..[/offtopic]

ofcourse all of humanity is like brother/sister, but there's always a difference between family and immediate family. You can't deny that.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

too bad the aztecks were not in that list

 

[GordoDeCentral]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


Erm, so by some logic here the World Cup should only be comprised of christians vs. muslims, hindus vs. buddhists, and atheists vs. agnostics...what a football tournament that would be.

what are you talking about man? where did i even mention religion? I was still commenting on supporting national sides. Moreover, no one was suggesting anything remotely close to that logic. you simply chose to hear what you want.

 

[Dan]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


Erm, so by some logic here the World Cup should only be comprised of christians vs. muslims, hindus vs. buddhists, and atheists vs. agnostics...what a football tournament that would be.

lol

 

[Zé Tahir]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

On paper this looks really nice. In reality you know that's not the case. I hate to make this into a deep religious conversation, but explain why blacks, chinese, cambodians, koreans, columbians, etc. have their own churches?

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


Are you ignoring my posts on purpose? Please Andy, don't push it. This is how they believe, either respect it or just don't comment (I am not commenting).

No Jeeks I'm not ignoring your posts on purpose, and I mean no disrespect with my posts either. I respect their opinions on this matter just as everybody else does..

And wait a minute, I thought you were muslim as well Jeeks? Sorry if I was mistaken.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++


what are you talking about man? where did i even mention religion? I was still commenting on supporting national sides. Moreover, no one was suggesting anything remotely close to that logic. you simply chose to hear what you want.

He was replying to Rami, Nawaf and Ze Tahir's comments.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

And the history of christianity and its auto da fe's throughout the ages is the best proof of that

 

[Snoop]

++ [ originally posted by Rami ] ++


Comparing just doesn't cut it Andy.

1-I don't know how it is in christianity, but in Islam we see any Muslim as a brethrens. As I said in a previous post, why would an Indonesian Muslim, pray everyday for the people of Palastine or Iraq? Its that feeling of brethrenship we have.

2-Borders between Muslim nations are a 20th century thing it was not before, and I hope I see them removed before I die.

3-There are different historical backgrounds between the European nations and the Islamic nations....for example the English and the French fought so many wars all over the world. They have been two seperate entities for god knows how much....not the case with Muslim countries.

Rami go check my post,I said we are all brothers and sisters,u know what? I don't want to use a bad word to religions,like fvck them (I think I did ).but we are all brothers and sisters,that's how my religion teaches.and it's the right thing. let everyone have his own beliefs,and let's not see each others as strangers just because we have other beliefs

 

[Zé Tahir]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


In christianity, the christianity that I believe in, my bretheren are black, white, catholic, muslim, hindu, protestant, and everything in between.

offtopic, but, correct me if i'm wrong, in christianity isn't the belief that anyone who rejects Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is going to hell? again correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by RochemBeck ] ++


No Jeeks I'm not ignoring your posts on purpose, and I mean no disrespect with my posts either. I respect their opinions on this matter just as everybody else does..

And wait a minute, I thought you were muslim as well Jeeks? Sorry if I was mistaken.

No I'm not, I'm a Christian, not a good one though.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++


He was replying to Rami, Nawaf and Ze Tahir's comments.

seems like we all sound alike when we speak that khakhashakha language

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by Zé Tahir ] ++


On paper this looks really nice. In reality you know that's not the case. I hate to make this into a deep religious conversation, but explain why blacks, chinese, cambodians, koreans, columbians, etc. have their own churches?

:groan:

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by Altair ] ++


seems like we all sound alike when we speak that khakhashakha language

This is why you should all join me and march to Mount Zion.

 

[Snoop]

++ [ originally posted by Zé Tahir ] ++


On paper this looks really nice. In reality you know that's not the case. I hate to make this into a deep religious conversation, but explain why blacks, chinese, cambodians, koreans, columbians, etc. have their own churches?

it's because people are ignorant bastards,and not the religion is teaching to do that

 

[Zé Tahir]

++ [ originally posted by snoop ] ++


Rami go check my post,I said we are all brothers and sisters,u know what? I don't want to use a bad word to religions,like fvck them (I think I did ).but we are all brothers and sisters,that's how my religion teaches.and it's the right thing. let everyone have his own beliefs,and let's not see each others as strangers just because we have other beliefs

snoop, I hope you read my post. I would like to add that it is also believed in our religion that the death of one person is like the death of all of humanity. So don't be sorry for me.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

anyways this was my last comment on this sujecty, funny how people adhere so vehemently to things they had no control over, so much for being intellectually "independent"