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Typical Romanista answer: rather than confront the misdeeds on their own pitch, they point fingers elsewhere as if to say, "Hey look -- Elvis!" and change the subject.
This incident has completely nothing to do with Juve for that matter. A couple things are clear:
1) To be fair and balanced with responsibilities over fans and security, Roma should be held liable to the extent they were last season for their fan behavior at the home Lazio derby and the away Milan game that followed: at least one home CL match should be played on a neutral court.
2) Prosecute the crap out of the guy individually responsible, and prosecute minor offenses on everyone who also threw something but didn't hit Frisk.
3) Never leave the door open to incentivize fans to disrupt a match if their team is behind, a man down, playing poorly, etc. Therefore, award Dynamo the match 3-0. No replay... Dynamo should not have to go through this twice.
This incident has completely nothing to do with Juve for that matter. A couple things are clear:
1) To be fair and balanced with responsibilities over fans and security, Roma should be held liable to the extent they were last season for their fan behavior at the home Lazio derby and the away Milan game that followed: at least one home CL match should be played on a neutral court.
2) Prosecute the crap out of the guy individually responsible, and prosecute minor offenses on everyone who also threw something but didn't hit Frisk.
3) Never leave the door open to incentivize fans to disrupt a match if their team is behind, a man down, playing poorly, etc. Therefore, award Dynamo the match 3-0. No replay... Dynamo should not have to go through this twice.
from CNN http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/football/09/16/italy.frisk/index.html
UEFA's disciplinary committee will meet next Tuesday to decide what action to take after referee Anders Frisk was struck by a missile during AS Roma's Champions League match against Dynamo Kiev.
The match was abandoned with Dynamo leading 1-0 after the official was injured as he left the pitch at halftime. He had just sent off Roma's French defender Philippe Mexes for kicking Dynamo's Maris Verpakovskis. Ukrainian officials said on Thursday that they wanted UEFA to award Dynamo victory, while Roma issued an official apology to Frisk. Ukrainian football federation president Hryhoriy Surkis said: "I do not want to predict what will happen next...but I want to note that within the bounds of normal practice the following decision could be taken -- to disqualify Roma from playing at home and to say they lost the match." Surkis said officials might decide to stage a replay but indicated that decision would not be fair to Dynamo. "Dynamo had the advantage," he said. "Their rivals were cavalier, cynical, impertinent and ignored the rules of fair play. By looking at the big picture we can say the guilt lies squarely at the door of the Roma players." Surkis said he would travel to Sofia, where the executive committee of European football's ruling body was meeting on Thursday, to present Ukraine's argument. UEFA have the power to award Kiev a 3-0 victory. A month ago, Israeli side Maccabi Tel-Aviv were awarded a 3-0 win over PAOK after the Greek club fielded a suspended player in a Champions League third round qualifier. In 2001, Paris St Germain were given a 3-0 win at Rapid Bucharest after their UEFA Cup tie had to be abandoned following a floodlight failure. A statement from the European governing body said: "UEFA deplores the incident that occurred last night at the Stadio Olimpico in Rome during the match between AS Roma and FC Dynamo Kiev. "We await the full details from both the referee's and the delegate's reports but it is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," UEFA said. Earlier UEFA spokesman William Gaillard told Sky Sports News it would probably take two weeks to deal with Wednesday's events because there might be an appeal whatever the disciplinary body's decision. The game was delayed by 40 minutes before finally being abandoned, with a UEFA spokesman saying Frisk was unable to continue and that the match officials' safety could not be guaranteed at the stadium.
Sad night
Roma's German coach Rudi Voeller told La Gazzetta dello Sport on Thursday: "From a sporting point of view it was a very sad night. "Starting with the match, it was obvious Dynamo had an extra gear compared to us. Then these things happened. I didn't see exactly what went on on the pitch. I only saw the referee in the changing rooms afterwards. "I don't know what will happen to us now. All we can do is wait for UEFA's decision." The incident highlights a continuing problem of violence in Italian stadiums.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumor that a child had been killed by a police car. And two years ago Roma and Turkish side Galatasaray were involved in a mass brawl involving players, officials and riot police at the end of a Champions League game in Rome which was also refereed by Frisk.
Official apology
Roma made an official apology to the referee on Thursday. "I want to apologise officially to the referee, to whom we gave all possible medical attention," the club's sporting director Franco Baldini said. "Frisk was checked over by our doctors and accompanied back to his hotel at 1.30am." Baldini denied that security at the Olympic Stadium had been lax. "There were 400 police plus 400 of our own employees on hand to make sure the match took place in the most correct way possible. "We will give our full assistance to catch the person responsible (for throwing the object)." Meanwhile, Roma's administrative delegate Rosella Sensi defended the behaviour of the vast majority of fans who, she said, had acted "in an exemplary fashion." She added:"This was a gesture of madness that will ruin all the efforts of the team and the club." The incident had an immediate impact on Roma's share price, which dropped by 9.1 per cent to 0.686 euros during trading on Thursday. The full financial implications of lost ticket sales and television rights if UEFA were to take the extreme step of ejecting the club from the Champions League would be even more damaging, said Sensi. "Presumably we could now suffer lost earnings of 20 million euros. We are considering seeking damages against the person who threw the object." Finding the guilty party, however, may prove difficult. The object that hit Frisk was only one of several thrown from the stand in front of the tunnel to the changing rooms. Earlier on Thursday, the Public Prosecutor's Office in Rome announced that it had opened a file on the incident.
UEFA's disciplinary committee will meet next Tuesday to decide what action to take after referee Anders Frisk was struck by a missile during AS Roma's Champions League match against Dynamo Kiev.
The match was abandoned with Dynamo leading 1-0 after the official was injured as he left the pitch at halftime. He had just sent off Roma's French defender Philippe Mexes for kicking Dynamo's Maris Verpakovskis. Ukrainian officials said on Thursday that they wanted UEFA to award Dynamo victory, while Roma issued an official apology to Frisk. Ukrainian football federation president Hryhoriy Surkis said: "I do not want to predict what will happen next...but I want to note that within the bounds of normal practice the following decision could be taken -- to disqualify Roma from playing at home and to say they lost the match." Surkis said officials might decide to stage a replay but indicated that decision would not be fair to Dynamo. "Dynamo had the advantage," he said. "Their rivals were cavalier, cynical, impertinent and ignored the rules of fair play. By looking at the big picture we can say the guilt lies squarely at the door of the Roma players." Surkis said he would travel to Sofia, where the executive committee of European football's ruling body was meeting on Thursday, to present Ukraine's argument. UEFA have the power to award Kiev a 3-0 victory. A month ago, Israeli side Maccabi Tel-Aviv were awarded a 3-0 win over PAOK after the Greek club fielded a suspended player in a Champions League third round qualifier. In 2001, Paris St Germain were given a 3-0 win at Rapid Bucharest after their UEFA Cup tie had to be abandoned following a floodlight failure. A statement from the European governing body said: "UEFA deplores the incident that occurred last night at the Stadio Olimpico in Rome during the match between AS Roma and FC Dynamo Kiev. "We await the full details from both the referee's and the delegate's reports but it is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," UEFA said. Earlier UEFA spokesman William Gaillard told Sky Sports News it would probably take two weeks to deal with Wednesday's events because there might be an appeal whatever the disciplinary body's decision. The game was delayed by 40 minutes before finally being abandoned, with a UEFA spokesman saying Frisk was unable to continue and that the match officials' safety could not be guaranteed at the stadium.
Sad night
Roma's German coach Rudi Voeller told La Gazzetta dello Sport on Thursday: "From a sporting point of view it was a very sad night. "Starting with the match, it was obvious Dynamo had an extra gear compared to us. Then these things happened. I didn't see exactly what went on on the pitch. I only saw the referee in the changing rooms afterwards. "I don't know what will happen to us now. All we can do is wait for UEFA's decision." The incident highlights a continuing problem of violence in Italian stadiums.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumor that a child had been killed by a police car. And two years ago Roma and Turkish side Galatasaray were involved in a mass brawl involving players, officials and riot police at the end of a Champions League game in Rome which was also refereed by Frisk.
Official apology
Roma made an official apology to the referee on Thursday. "I want to apologise officially to the referee, to whom we gave all possible medical attention," the club's sporting director Franco Baldini said. "Frisk was checked over by our doctors and accompanied back to his hotel at 1.30am." Baldini denied that security at the Olympic Stadium had been lax. "There were 400 police plus 400 of our own employees on hand to make sure the match took place in the most correct way possible. "We will give our full assistance to catch the person responsible (for throwing the object)." Meanwhile, Roma's administrative delegate Rosella Sensi defended the behaviour of the vast majority of fans who, she said, had acted "in an exemplary fashion." She added:"This was a gesture of madness that will ruin all the efforts of the team and the club." The incident had an immediate impact on Roma's share price, which dropped by 9.1 per cent to 0.686 euros during trading on Thursday. The full financial implications of lost ticket sales and television rights if UEFA were to take the extreme step of ejecting the club from the Champions League would be even more damaging, said Sensi. "Presumably we could now suffer lost earnings of 20 million euros. We are considering seeking damages against the person who threw the object." Finding the guilty party, however, may prove difficult. The object that hit Frisk was only one of several thrown from the stand in front of the tunnel to the changing rooms. Earlier on Thursday, the Public Prosecutor's Office in Rome announced that it had opened a file on the incident.
from Eurosport http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/V4/L0/S22/E6885/sport_Lng0_Spo22_Evt6885_Sto639013.shtml
UEFA will meet next Tuesday to instigate disciplinary proceedings against AS Roma after referee Anders Frisk was injured during the Italian club's Champions League match with Dynamo Kiev, which was later abandoned.
"UEFA deplores the incident that occurred last night at the Stadio Olimpico in Rome during the match between AS Roma and FC Dynamo Kiev..." European soccer's governing body said in a statement on Thursday.
"We await the full details from both the referee's and the delegate's reports but it is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," UEFA said.
The Swede was struck by an object thrown from the stands of the Olympic Stadium at halftime on Wednesday, shortly after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes for an off-the-ball foul, and left the pitch bleeding from a forehead wound.
Kiev were leading the Group B match 1-0.
TV pictures showed Frisk bending to his knees as blood poured from a wound in the middle of his forehead after he was struck by what appeared to be a cigarette lighter at the end of the first half, moments after sending off Roma's French defender Philippe Mexes for kicking Kiev striker Maris Verpakovskis.
Frisk needed medical attention to the wound, and after a 40 minute delay, it was announced over the Olympic Stadium loudspeaker the match was being abandoned.
"The referee decided to suspend the match first because he was seriously hurt, and second because he says that his safety -- and the safety of his assistants and the fourth man -- cannot be guaranteed," a UEFA official told reporters.
Television pictures showed a bearded fan in a black t-shirt throwing an object towards the referee, but it was unclear whether that was the object that hit the 41-year-old Swede.
NOT THE FIRST TIME IN ROME
The incident began when Frisk sent off Mexes shortly after blowing the whistle for halftime.
While players and officials remonstrated, Frisk was struck as he made his way off the field to the tunnel and changing rooms.
At the end of the first half Dynamo led the hosts 1-0 thanks to a 29th-minute free kick by defender Goran Gavrancic.
Rome's Olympic Stadium already held unpleasant memories for Frisk.
In March 2002 he refereed Roma's Champions League match against Galatasaray, which degenerated into a brawl involving players and officials from both sides shortly after the final whistle.
On that occasion Roma captain Francesco Totti received a three-match ban, while striker Gabriel Batistuta and team coach Fabio Capello were punished with one and two-match bans respectively.
The consequences this time round could be more severe and include a stadium ban.
Wednesday's incident highlights the continuing problem of violence in Italian stadiums.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumour that a child had been killed by a police car.
A year ago a fan fell to his death as rioting fans spilled onto the pitch before a fixture between Serie B sides Napoli and Avellino.
UEFA will meet next Tuesday to instigate disciplinary proceedings against AS Roma after referee Anders Frisk was injured during the Italian club's Champions League match with Dynamo Kiev, which was later abandoned.
"UEFA deplores the incident that occurred last night at the Stadio Olimpico in Rome during the match between AS Roma and FC Dynamo Kiev..." European soccer's governing body said in a statement on Thursday.
"We await the full details from both the referee's and the delegate's reports but it is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," UEFA said.
The Swede was struck by an object thrown from the stands of the Olympic Stadium at halftime on Wednesday, shortly after sending off Roma defender Philippe Mexes for an off-the-ball foul, and left the pitch bleeding from a forehead wound.
Kiev were leading the Group B match 1-0.
TV pictures showed Frisk bending to his knees as blood poured from a wound in the middle of his forehead after he was struck by what appeared to be a cigarette lighter at the end of the first half, moments after sending off Roma's French defender Philippe Mexes for kicking Kiev striker Maris Verpakovskis.
Frisk needed medical attention to the wound, and after a 40 minute delay, it was announced over the Olympic Stadium loudspeaker the match was being abandoned.
"The referee decided to suspend the match first because he was seriously hurt, and second because he says that his safety -- and the safety of his assistants and the fourth man -- cannot be guaranteed," a UEFA official told reporters.
Television pictures showed a bearded fan in a black t-shirt throwing an object towards the referee, but it was unclear whether that was the object that hit the 41-year-old Swede.
NOT THE FIRST TIME IN ROME
The incident began when Frisk sent off Mexes shortly after blowing the whistle for halftime.
While players and officials remonstrated, Frisk was struck as he made his way off the field to the tunnel and changing rooms.
At the end of the first half Dynamo led the hosts 1-0 thanks to a 29th-minute free kick by defender Goran Gavrancic.
Rome's Olympic Stadium already held unpleasant memories for Frisk.
In March 2002 he refereed Roma's Champions League match against Galatasaray, which degenerated into a brawl involving players and officials from both sides shortly after the final whistle.
On that occasion Roma captain Francesco Totti received a three-match ban, while striker Gabriel Batistuta and team coach Fabio Capello were punished with one and two-match bans respectively.
The consequences this time round could be more severe and include a stadium ban.
Wednesday's incident highlights the continuing problem of violence in Italian stadiums.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumour that a child had been killed by a police car.
A year ago a fan fell to his death as rioting fans spilled onto the pitch before a fixture between Serie B sides Napoli and Avellino.
from Yahoo Deportes España http://es.sports.yahoo.com/040916/2/2l8o.html
Fútbol/Liga Campeones.- El Comité de Disciplina de la UEFA estudia hoy en la agresión al árbitro Roma-Dinamo
jue 16 sep, 11:12 AM
NYON, 16 (EUROPA PRESS)
El Comité de Disciplina de la UEFA investigará hoy el incidente que se produjo ayer en el partido Roma-Dinamo de Kiev, correspondiente a la primera jornada del Grupo B de la Liga de Campeones, en el que un objeto lanzado desde la grada impactó e hirió en la frente al árbitro, el sueco Anders Frisk.
Instantes antes del descanso, el colegiado expulsó al futbolista francés del AS Roma Philippe Mexes, lo que soliviantó los ánimos de la afición. Así, cuando los jugadores de la Roma y Dinamo de Kiev, junto con el equipo arbitral, enfilaran el camino hacia los vestuarios el colegiado recibió el impacto de un objeto, presumiblemente un mechero.
Frisk tuvo que ser atendido en los vestuarios y recibió cuatro puntos de sutura en la frente, lo que podría acarrearle una dura sanción al cuadro romano que, además, perdía el partido de anoche por 0-1 cuando se suspendió en el descanso.
El director de comunicación de la UEFA, William Gaillard, explicaba anoche que la UEFA estaba esperando "el informe del delegado del partido" y recordó que esta era la "primera vez en muchos años que un encuentro ha tenido que ser suspendido por un incidente de este tipo".
"El incidente del árbitro es más grave de lo previsto y vista las reglas de la UEFA el partido se suspende a la espera de la decisión del comité de disciplina", que hoy podría adoptar alguna resolución, destacaba el delegado del choque.
MALOS RECUERDOS DE FRISK CON EL AS ROMA.
Cabe recordar que este incidente no es el primero que sufre este árbitro con la Roma, ya que el 13 de marzo de 2002, en un partido de la segunda liguilla de la Liga de Campeones ante el Galatasaray (1-1) el encuentro acabó con una espectacular pelea entre los jugadores de ambos equipos en el túnel de vestuarios en el que intervino incluso la policía.
De hecho, el incidente creó incluso un pequeño conflicto entre los gobiernos de ambos países, ya que los jugadores turcos, algunos de los cuales tuvieron que ser atendidos en el hospital, se quejaron de la contundencia de las fuerzas del órden.
Tras partidos de suspensión, reducidos luego a uno, a su capitán, Francesco Totti, dos a Lima y al técnico Fabio Capello, y uno a Batistuta fueron el balance para los jugadores, además de una sanción de un encuentro para el coliseo romano.
Fútbol/Liga Campeones.- El Comité de Disciplina de la UEFA estudia hoy en la agresión al árbitro Roma-Dinamo
jue 16 sep, 11:12 AM
NYON, 16 (EUROPA PRESS)
El Comité de Disciplina de la UEFA investigará hoy el incidente que se produjo ayer en el partido Roma-Dinamo de Kiev, correspondiente a la primera jornada del Grupo B de la Liga de Campeones, en el que un objeto lanzado desde la grada impactó e hirió en la frente al árbitro, el sueco Anders Frisk.
Instantes antes del descanso, el colegiado expulsó al futbolista francés del AS Roma Philippe Mexes, lo que soliviantó los ánimos de la afición. Así, cuando los jugadores de la Roma y Dinamo de Kiev, junto con el equipo arbitral, enfilaran el camino hacia los vestuarios el colegiado recibió el impacto de un objeto, presumiblemente un mechero.
Frisk tuvo que ser atendido en los vestuarios y recibió cuatro puntos de sutura en la frente, lo que podría acarrearle una dura sanción al cuadro romano que, además, perdía el partido de anoche por 0-1 cuando se suspendió en el descanso.
El director de comunicación de la UEFA, William Gaillard, explicaba anoche que la UEFA estaba esperando "el informe del delegado del partido" y recordó que esta era la "primera vez en muchos años que un encuentro ha tenido que ser suspendido por un incidente de este tipo".
"El incidente del árbitro es más grave de lo previsto y vista las reglas de la UEFA el partido se suspende a la espera de la decisión del comité de disciplina", que hoy podría adoptar alguna resolución, destacaba el delegado del choque.
MALOS RECUERDOS DE FRISK CON EL AS ROMA.
Cabe recordar que este incidente no es el primero que sufre este árbitro con la Roma, ya que el 13 de marzo de 2002, en un partido de la segunda liguilla de la Liga de Campeones ante el Galatasaray (1-1) el encuentro acabó con una espectacular pelea entre los jugadores de ambos equipos en el túnel de vestuarios en el que intervino incluso la policía.
De hecho, el incidente creó incluso un pequeño conflicto entre los gobiernos de ambos países, ya que los jugadores turcos, algunos de los cuales tuvieron que ser atendidos en el hospital, se quejaron de la contundencia de las fuerzas del órden.
Tras partidos de suspensión, reducidos luego a uno, a su capitán, Francesco Totti, dos a Lima y al técnico Fabio Capello, y uno a Batistuta fueron el balance para los jugadores, además de una sanción de un encuentro para el coliseo romano.
De Marca http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,534518,00.html
Suspendido el partido por una agresión al árbitro desde la grada
EFE. Roma
El partido entre la Roma y el Dinamo de Kiev, los otros dos equipos encuadrados en el grupo B, el del Real Madrid, se suspendió en el descanso con el resultado de 0-1 a favor del conjunto ucraniano al precisar el colegiado sueco Anders Frisk de asistencia médica al ser alcanzado por un objeto en la frente cuando se dirigía al túnel de vestuarios tras la primera parte.
Frisk fue alcanzado por un objeto, se habla de un mechero o una moneda, lanzado desde las gradas cuando se encontraba en la pista de atletismo del estadio Olímpico camino de los vestuarios, después de haber pitado el final drancés romanista Mexes.
Antes de su entrada al túnel de vestuarios, Frisk recibió un impacto en la frente de un objeto lanzado desde uno de los sectores bajos de la tribuna central. Al recibir el impacto, el colegiado que iba acompañado por sus dos jueces asistentes cayó al suelo, se puso de rodillas con claras muestras de dolor y al levantarse se le evidenció sangrar notablemente.
En el descanso, en el vestuario, Frisk tuvo que ser atendido por las asistencias, teniendo que serle aplicados puntos de sutura ante el corte sufrido en la frente. En un principio, se anunció por la megafonía que el segundo tiempo se iba a retrasar una media hora por tener que ser atendido el colegiado. Pero pasado este tiempo, al no recuperarse el árbitro, se anunció la suspensión del encuentro.
El Dinamo, mucho mejor que la Roma
Hasta ese momento, la primera parte había registrado el claro naufragio de la Roma ante un Dinamo de Kiev que merecidamente ganaba por 0-1. El partido, desde luego, quedó marcado por la lamentable acción cometida sobre Frisk, como a buen seguro que también quedará marcado, mucho y duramente, el caminar de la Roma en la actual Champions. Y poco parece importar a hora los primeros, y únicos, cuarenta y cinco minutos jugados.
Una confrontación que, desde luego, no ha traído un gran estreno para el alemán Rudi Voeller al frente de la Roma en Europa. Un Voeller que horas antes había vivido el sorprendente abandono de la concentración del delantero Antonio Cassano, que pasaba por ser un teórico titular ante el Dinamo, aunque luego el club informó que era con el permiso del club y del propio técnico.
El primer tiempo de la Roma fue pésimo: un equipo sin ritmo, impreciso, con notables desajustes defensivos, sin creación e inexistente en ataque, donde Montella estuvo perdido y Totti evidenció no estar en forma y no ser la suya la posición de segundo delantero. De ello, lógicamente, se aprovechó el Dinamo de Kiev de Szabo, al que le bastó poner orden y dar un mayor ritmo a sus acciones para dominar y poner en grandes apuros a su rival.
Así, ya pudo Verpakovskis adelantar al Dinamo en el marcador a los 12 minutos, pero no atinó en el remate. Eso sí, el tanto del conjunto ucraniano estaba en el aire y llegó en un lanzamiento directo de falta a cargo de Gavrancic desde una treintena de metros y centrado, que contó con un cierto despiste del meta Pelizzoli.
La Roma estaba contra las cuerdas y ni siquiera se acercaba con peligro al área visitante. Su primera ocasión no llegaría hasta el minuto 34, en un fallido disparo de Totti. Fue el Dinamo quien volvió a estar más cerca del segundo tanto, pero Pelizzoli ahora sí estuvo atinado en un mano a mano con el brasileño 'Diogo' Rincón. No llegó el segundo gol visitante antes del descanso, pero sí la expulsión del defensa francés Mexes, que cometió una ingenuidad al golpear a un jugador del Dinamo con el balón parado. El colegiado Frisk vio la acción y expulsó al galo. Luego llegó el descanso, la agresión y la suspensión.
Suspendido el partido por una agresión al árbitro desde la grada
EFE. Roma
El partido entre la Roma y el Dinamo de Kiev, los otros dos equipos encuadrados en el grupo B, el del Real Madrid, se suspendió en el descanso con el resultado de 0-1 a favor del conjunto ucraniano al precisar el colegiado sueco Anders Frisk de asistencia médica al ser alcanzado por un objeto en la frente cuando se dirigía al túnel de vestuarios tras la primera parte.
Frisk fue alcanzado por un objeto, se habla de un mechero o una moneda, lanzado desde las gradas cuando se encontraba en la pista de atletismo del estadio Olímpico camino de los vestuarios, después de haber pitado el final drancés romanista Mexes.
Antes de su entrada al túnel de vestuarios, Frisk recibió un impacto en la frente de un objeto lanzado desde uno de los sectores bajos de la tribuna central. Al recibir el impacto, el colegiado que iba acompañado por sus dos jueces asistentes cayó al suelo, se puso de rodillas con claras muestras de dolor y al levantarse se le evidenció sangrar notablemente.
En el descanso, en el vestuario, Frisk tuvo que ser atendido por las asistencias, teniendo que serle aplicados puntos de sutura ante el corte sufrido en la frente. En un principio, se anunció por la megafonía que el segundo tiempo se iba a retrasar una media hora por tener que ser atendido el colegiado. Pero pasado este tiempo, al no recuperarse el árbitro, se anunció la suspensión del encuentro.
El Dinamo, mucho mejor que la Roma
Hasta ese momento, la primera parte había registrado el claro naufragio de la Roma ante un Dinamo de Kiev que merecidamente ganaba por 0-1. El partido, desde luego, quedó marcado por la lamentable acción cometida sobre Frisk, como a buen seguro que también quedará marcado, mucho y duramente, el caminar de la Roma en la actual Champions. Y poco parece importar a hora los primeros, y únicos, cuarenta y cinco minutos jugados.
Una confrontación que, desde luego, no ha traído un gran estreno para el alemán Rudi Voeller al frente de la Roma en Europa. Un Voeller que horas antes había vivido el sorprendente abandono de la concentración del delantero Antonio Cassano, que pasaba por ser un teórico titular ante el Dinamo, aunque luego el club informó que era con el permiso del club y del propio técnico.
El primer tiempo de la Roma fue pésimo: un equipo sin ritmo, impreciso, con notables desajustes defensivos, sin creación e inexistente en ataque, donde Montella estuvo perdido y Totti evidenció no estar en forma y no ser la suya la posición de segundo delantero. De ello, lógicamente, se aprovechó el Dinamo de Kiev de Szabo, al que le bastó poner orden y dar un mayor ritmo a sus acciones para dominar y poner en grandes apuros a su rival.
Así, ya pudo Verpakovskis adelantar al Dinamo en el marcador a los 12 minutos, pero no atinó en el remate. Eso sí, el tanto del conjunto ucraniano estaba en el aire y llegó en un lanzamiento directo de falta a cargo de Gavrancic desde una treintena de metros y centrado, que contó con un cierto despiste del meta Pelizzoli.
La Roma estaba contra las cuerdas y ni siquiera se acercaba con peligro al área visitante. Su primera ocasión no llegaría hasta el minuto 34, en un fallido disparo de Totti. Fue el Dinamo quien volvió a estar más cerca del segundo tanto, pero Pelizzoli ahora sí estuvo atinado en un mano a mano con el brasileño 'Diogo' Rincón. No llegó el segundo gol visitante antes del descanso, pero sí la expulsión del defensa francés Mexes, que cometió una ingenuidad al golpear a un jugador del Dinamo con el balón parado. El colegiado Frisk vio la acción y expulsó al galo. Luego llegó el descanso, la agresión y la suspensión.
from BBC Sport http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/3661010.stm
Champions League round-up Uefa will meet on 21 September to discipline Roma and decide the outcome of their Champions League match with Dynamo Kiev after it was suspended. Referee Anders Frisk was hit by a missile from the crowd, after he had sent off Roma's Philippe Mexes, and the match was abandoned at half-time.
"It is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," Uefa said in a statement.
"We are awaiting full details from the referee's and delegate's reports."
Frisk had blown the half-time whistle, but rightly sent off defender Mexes for his petulant kick at Maris Verpakovskis.
His decision seemed to spark anger from the home crowd and the Swede left the pitch at half-time with blood pouring from his head.
Uefa delegate Andre Francioli said: "Frisk suspended the game because he wasn't in any condition to continue."
"Because he was seriously hurt and because his security was not guaranteed."
WHAT ACTION MIGHT UEFA TAKE? Roma and Dynamo Kiev could replay the match Uefa could award Dynamo a 3-0 win Roma could be forced to play at a neutral venue Roma could be hit with a hefty fine Ukrainian officials now want Dynamo Kiev to be awarded the points as they held a 1-0 lead before the incident.
"Dynamo had the advantage," said Ukrainian football federation president Hryhoriy Surkis.
"Their rivals were cavalier, cynical, impertinent and ignored the rules of fair play.
"By looking at the big picture we can say the guilt lies squarely at the door of the Roma players."
Roma have issued a public apology to Frisk and are now determined to track down the fan responsible for the attack.
"This was a gesture of madness that will ruin all the efforts of the team and the club," said Roma spokesperson Rosella Sensi.
"We could now face a fine of 20 million euros. We are considering seeking damages against the person who threw the object."
Uefa are almost certain to punish Roma at the hearing next Tuesday.
Roma coach Rudi Voeller has only been in charge of the club for two weeks but it is not the first time the Italian club have been in trouble.
"These are things that should not happen," said Voeller. "It has been a sad night.
"Now we have to await a decision by UEFA."
Two years ago Roma and Turkish side Galatasaray were involved in a mass brawl involving players, officials and riot police at the end of a Champions League game in Rome.
Frisk also refereed that game.
After Roma appealed, Uefa reduced some of the punishments it handed out to the Italian club.
On that occasion, Uefa withdrew its decision to ban Roma from the Olympic stadium for one match, instead fining the Italian club £221,000.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans also clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumour that a child had been killed by a police car.
Champions League round-up Uefa will meet on 21 September to discipline Roma and decide the outcome of their Champions League match with Dynamo Kiev after it was suspended. Referee Anders Frisk was hit by a missile from the crowd, after he had sent off Roma's Philippe Mexes, and the match was abandoned at half-time.
"It is clear that disciplinary proceedings will be instigated against AS Roma," Uefa said in a statement.
"We are awaiting full details from the referee's and delegate's reports."
Frisk had blown the half-time whistle, but rightly sent off defender Mexes for his petulant kick at Maris Verpakovskis.
His decision seemed to spark anger from the home crowd and the Swede left the pitch at half-time with blood pouring from his head.
Uefa delegate Andre Francioli said: "Frisk suspended the game because he wasn't in any condition to continue."
"Because he was seriously hurt and because his security was not guaranteed."
WHAT ACTION MIGHT UEFA TAKE? Roma and Dynamo Kiev could replay the match Uefa could award Dynamo a 3-0 win Roma could be forced to play at a neutral venue Roma could be hit with a hefty fine Ukrainian officials now want Dynamo Kiev to be awarded the points as they held a 1-0 lead before the incident.
"Dynamo had the advantage," said Ukrainian football federation president Hryhoriy Surkis.
"Their rivals were cavalier, cynical, impertinent and ignored the rules of fair play.
"By looking at the big picture we can say the guilt lies squarely at the door of the Roma players."
Roma have issued a public apology to Frisk and are now determined to track down the fan responsible for the attack.
"This was a gesture of madness that will ruin all the efforts of the team and the club," said Roma spokesperson Rosella Sensi.
"We could now face a fine of 20 million euros. We are considering seeking damages against the person who threw the object."
Uefa are almost certain to punish Roma at the hearing next Tuesday.
Roma coach Rudi Voeller has only been in charge of the club for two weeks but it is not the first time the Italian club have been in trouble.
"These are things that should not happen," said Voeller. "It has been a sad night.
"Now we have to await a decision by UEFA."
Two years ago Roma and Turkish side Galatasaray were involved in a mass brawl involving players, officials and riot police at the end of a Champions League game in Rome.
Frisk also refereed that game.
After Roma appealed, Uefa reduced some of the punishments it handed out to the Italian club.
On that occasion, Uefa withdrew its decision to ban Roma from the Olympic stadium for one match, instead fining the Italian club £221,000.
Last season Roma and Lazio fans also clashed with police outside the Olympic Stadium after the city derby was suspended by a false rumour that a child had been killed by a police car.
from Il Romanista http://www.ilromanista.it/index.php?section=news&newsid=405
Franco Baldini and Rosella Sensi dealt with several issues in the press conference held today in Trigoria and related to last night facts. The daughter of Mr. President Sensi started saying: “The act of an insane person will vanify the efforts made by the Company and by my father. I am waiting to see what Disciplinary Commission of UEFA will say, but I would like to make clear that A.S offers its complete coollaboration in oder to find out what happened. Frisk, the referee, has been provided all needed medical assistance. This was not the gesture of a fan. True fans were unreprochable and it is not fair that they be penalized." She goes on with a call to other Soccer teams: "I invite all soccer teams to join Roma in its effort, since what happened yesterday in Roma could happen to any other team. We are the victims. We ask institutions to help us by changing part of the rules. So that it will pay Roma alone.” Following spoke Franco Baldini: “We make our apologies to Frisk, the referee, but also I add that he has received all the needed medical attention." Then he continues about the punishment: “We are waiting for the UEFA decision on the 21, in any case any sanction is unfair to Roma. Current rules apply. Objective reponsibility of AS Roma sure must be taken into consideration, but also must be considered the effort made by the company in this contingency."
Franco Baldini and Rosella Sensi dealt with several issues in the press conference held today in Trigoria and related to last night facts. The daughter of Mr. President Sensi started saying: “The act of an insane person will vanify the efforts made by the Company and by my father. I am waiting to see what Disciplinary Commission of UEFA will say, but I would like to make clear that A.S offers its complete coollaboration in oder to find out what happened. Frisk, the referee, has been provided all needed medical assistance. This was not the gesture of a fan. True fans were unreprochable and it is not fair that they be penalized." She goes on with a call to other Soccer teams: "I invite all soccer teams to join Roma in its effort, since what happened yesterday in Roma could happen to any other team. We are the victims. We ask institutions to help us by changing part of the rules. So that it will pay Roma alone.” Following spoke Franco Baldini: “We make our apologies to Frisk, the referee, but also I add that he has received all the needed medical attention." Then he continues about the punishment: “We are waiting for the UEFA decision on the 21, in any case any sanction is unfair to Roma. Current rules apply. Objective reponsibility of AS Roma sure must be taken into consideration, but also must be considered the effort made by the company in this contingency."
The fact is that in Rome there is a sprung of partizan media, unseen before or elsewhere.
Their main attitude is of blaming the system for not being able to achieve the results other teams have attained. I mean the Italian soccer federation and everything is related to it, but also the European soccer federation.
Frisk was guilty of having sided against Roma in a previous occasion.
UEFA is guilty of having sent again this undesired referee to Roma.
Romanists are not guilty. Only one crazy person is responsible for what happened. Or may be even a paid secret agent of the Northern Italy teams (especially Juventus and Milan).
Million of people have seen how thousands of Roma fans were throwing things at the referees. Lucky how just one of those objects hit the target. And after that Milliion of people have seen how thousends of Roma supporters were chanting to the death of the referee.
It is time for UEFA to step in a make an example out of romanists excesses.
xziz
Their main attitude is of blaming the system for not being able to achieve the results other teams have attained. I mean the Italian soccer federation and everything is related to it, but also the European soccer federation.
Frisk was guilty of having sided against Roma in a previous occasion.
UEFA is guilty of having sent again this undesired referee to Roma.
Romanists are not guilty. Only one crazy person is responsible for what happened. Or may be even a paid secret agent of the Northern Italy teams (especially Juventus and Milan).
Million of people have seen how thousands of Roma fans were throwing things at the referees. Lucky how just one of those objects hit the target. And after that Milliion of people have seen how thousends of Roma supporters were chanting to the death of the referee.
It is time for UEFA to step in a make an example out of romanists excesses.
xziz
Roma's Nightmare Continues As Totti Injured
Things are going from bad to worse for Roma, even if this might seem impossible in light of Wednesday’s events.
Francesco Totti is in serious doubt for Sunday’s important Messina road test after that he pulled a muscle in his right thigh.
With Cassano suspended, Voeller will probably decide to field the striking duo composed by Montella and Delvecchio.
New signing Mido is expected to start from the bench.
Things are going from bad to worse for Roma, even if this might seem impossible in light of Wednesday’s events.
Francesco Totti is in serious doubt for Sunday’s important Messina road test after that he pulled a muscle in his right thigh.
With Cassano suspended, Voeller will probably decide to field the striking duo composed by Montella and Delvecchio.
New signing Mido is expected to start from the bench.
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xziz, do you see the difference now? This time you respectfully presented an opinion that doesn't deliberately insult anyone. This is what we want.
xziz, do you see the difference now? This time you respectfully presented an opinion that doesn't deliberately insult anyone. This is what we want.
So, perhaps I lost my temper in my previous post.
xziz
Yeah but you know you shouldn't completely discard those allegation either. Like swag said, Sensi has a knack for pointing fingers whenever Roma hits the spotlight but that doesn't necessarily mean the things other fans hold against our club are false. I mean Juve does have that political/financial pressure in the league and as far as I'm concerned, Sensi is just jealous. But that don't make it right and you could say it's the same for Real Madrid, for instance, but so what?
But no matter what the discussion is, personal attacks just never make it better.
But no matter what the discussion is, personal attacks just never make it better.
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Yeah but you know you shouldn't completely discard those allegation either. Like swag said, Sensi has a knack for pointing fingers whenever Roma hits the spotlight but that doesn't necessarily mean the things other fans hold against our club are false. I mean Juve does have that political/financial pressure in the league and as far as I'm concerned, Sensi is just jealous. But that don't make it right and you could say it's the same for Real Madrid, for instance, but so what?
But no matter what the discussion is, personal attacks just never make it better.
Yeah but you know you shouldn't completely discard those allegation either. Like swag said, Sensi has a knack for pointing fingers whenever Roma hits the spotlight but that doesn't necessarily mean the things other fans hold against our club are false. I mean Juve does have that political/financial pressure in the league and as far as I'm concerned, Sensi is just jealous. But that don't make it right and you could say it's the same for Real Madrid, for instance, but so what?
But no matter what the discussion is, personal attacks just never make it better.
a. Romanists have identified the origin of every evil with Juventus. Therefore, every time they have a problem they blame it on Juventus.
b. There has been a growing infiltration of romanist fans and clients among reporters, journalists and showpeople.
Juventus does not do more or less abuse than any other grand international football club would do. Unfortunately this is in the nature of the business. If you want to be grand, you got do work your shoulders.
There is no point in crying foul whenever things go wrong, like Romanists do. This may work in Italy were they monopolize media (or half of them, the other half is Milanist). But sure that attitude does not work in the international arena, were it actually is counterproductive.
To be clearer. Let say Roma is ùnished for the misdeeds of the Romanists, they loose 0-3 to Dinamo Kiev, their ground is banned, they eventually get out in the first tournament.
They would not do anything to try to address the problem which caused this outcome. The problem is the buildup of ideological reasons for violent behaviour.
Instead, I am sure they would actually convert this into one more reason to hate the European soccer system, UEFA, and develop conspiracy theories about why they have been UNFAIRLY PENALIZED.
It is a mixture of self-victimization and hatre towards the ones who achieve success and results. I have not been able to see this pushed at this extent in any other European team.
I like fans of other teams, I do not like Romanists. When I was in Madrid I used to go to Bernabeu to watch Real Madrid, in Barcelona I plan to go to Camp Nou to watch Barcelona (especially if it plays against Juventus :cheesy
.xziz :devil:
