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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
is dybala injury prone?

this season and last he got hit by covid, then an injury, then got stomach issues, then injury.

thats not injur prone. thats bad luck. he's not douglas costa.

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This. And you have to it over and over throughout your career.
Its not even about scoring, it's about being a menace (Tevez was a menace too), a real weapon that opponents worry about.
All Dybala's (elite) opponents have to worry about is not letting him shoot with his left from the right. I'm sorry but that's simply not enough for us.
how can you claim tevez is a bigger menace than dybala when dybala has outscored tevez in their best goal scoring seasons. tevez had 20 goals and 7 assists, and dybala had 22 goals and 5 assists. add to that dybala barely scores tap ins or team assisted goals.

if anything tevez underperformed considering the quality of the midfielders he had behind him. dybala has to settle for matuidi, bentancur and khedira dude.
 

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pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Damaged goods already...seriously? Lol

Oh how the turntables

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So its a sad crossroads we find ourselves with Dybala.

Contract renewal happening or could lose on a free. Seems to be having a chronic knee issue which could get worse. Is inconsistent when he is healthy. Hard to figure out how he fits in the formation. Tempermental.


What do?
Sell his ass?

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is dybala injury prone?

this season and last he got hit by covid, then an injury, then got stomach issues, then injury.

thats not injur prone. thats bad luck. he's not douglas costa.

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how can you claim tevez is a bigger menace than dybala when dybala has outscored tevez in their best goal scoring seasons. tevez had 20 goals and 7 assists, and dybala had 22 goals and 5 assists. add to that dybala barely scores tap ins or team assisted goals.

if anything tevez underperformed considering the quality of the midfielders he had behind him. dybala has to settle for matuidi, bentancur and khedira dude.
One prolonged knee issue for a season. That done did it. Now injury prone and damaged goods.

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Alternative interpretations are excuses, dude. As is blaming Allegri. We were on pace for 100+ pts in the league most of that year, and went out in CL QFs. It was a bad season, certainly, but Dybala was far and away the worst under-performer in the entire team, even more so given how much of a superstar you think he is. He’s been in his prime these past 3 years so there’s really no excuse for being so awful for two of them
He showed he's a bit of a mental midget but did have a bit of an excuse. Can't play him on the wing like how Allegri kept doing.

He only fits in certain tactics with certain players. If plans for the foreseeable future dont align with that, best to move him on instead of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
 
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Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Damaged goods already...seriously? Lol

Oh how the turntables

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Sell his ass?

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One prolonged knee issue for a season. That done did it. Now injury prone and damaged goods.

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He showed he's a bit of a mental midget but did have a bit of an excuse. Can't play him on the wing like how Allegri kept doing.

He only fits in certain tactics with certain players. If plans for the foreseeable future dont align with that, best to move him on instead of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
For years now he's missing a month or two every season due to injuries, that's only going to get worse with age, I'd definitely say he's injury prone even before this season. And it's simple, if we keep Ronaldo, Dybala will continue to be that square peg in a round hole, you can only play them together if you sacrifice another area, Allegri and Sarri couldn't figure it out, Pirlo isn't even trying to and requested a CF straight-away, the next coach probably won't be able to do it either.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
is dybala injury prone?

this season and last he got hit by covid, then an injury, then got stomach issues, then injury.

thats not injur prone. thats bad luck. he's not douglas costa.

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how can you claim tevez is a bigger menace than dybala when dybala has outscored tevez in their best goal scoring seasons. tevez had 20 goals and 7 assists, and dybala had 22 goals and 5 assists. add to that dybala barely scores tap ins or team assisted goals.

if anything tevez underperformed considering the quality of the midfielders he had behind him. dybala has to settle for matuidi, bentancur and khedira dude.
Like I said, it's not even about the numbers.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
This. And you have to it over and over throughout your career.
Its not even about scoring, it's about being a menace (Tevez was a menace too), a real weapon that opponents worry about.
All Dybala's (elite) opponents have to worry about is not letting him shoot with his left from the right. I'm sorry but that's simply not enough for us.
I'm not sure Tevez is the best example to be used here but I think you're on to something.

I've never been able to put into words what I feel Dybala seems to lack as a forward but you kinda said it. If you're the adversary and you see the ball being passed to someone like Mbappe or Neymar you know shit is coming your way.

There's an aggressiveness, an unpredictability and constant danger you get from those sort of players. All the great forwards were like that.

Dybala does have his own bag of tricks but I'd say his strongest feat is positioning himself just outside the box on the right side, cutting to the left and getting that ball to the far left of the keeper. Similar to Robben in a way. He's scored a lot of goals that way which is absolutely fine.

But there's something that's just not there, maybe that constant danger feeling you get from other players. The menace as you said. Maybe there was another step up he was supposed to take on his football journey but he just never did.

I believe the potential was always there, you could see it from his Palermo days. I even thought he had similarities with Romário then. Maybe his story would've been different if he had picked a club that would use him to his strengths, maybe that's the problem. We didn't.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,988
I'm not sure Tevez is the best example to be used here but I think you're on to something.

I've never been able to put into words what I feel Dybala seems to lack as a forward but you kinda said it. If you're the adversary and you see the ball being passed to someone like Mbappe or Neymar you know shit is coming your way.

There's an aggressiveness, an unpredictability and constant danger you get from those sort of players. All the great forwards were like that.

Dybala does have his own bag of tricks but I'd say his strongest feat is positioning himself just outside the box on the right side, cutting to the left and getting that ball to the far left of the keeper. Similar to Robben in a way. He's scored a lot of goals that way which is absolutely fine.

But there's something that's just not there, maybe that constant danger feeling you get from other players. The menace as you said. Maybe there was another step up he was supposed to take on his football journey but he just never did.

I believe the potential was always there, you could see it from his Palermo days. I even thought he had similarities with Romário then. Maybe his story would've been different if he had picked a club that would use him to his strengths, maybe that's the problem. We didn't.
Its because he just doesnt have it to be on that tier of players.
Those players you mentioned have speed and trickery for days, while dybala lack both. yes you can maybe see dybala masking his lack of trickery with some nice flicks here and there but is not a constant, and once he tricks someone, he just doesnt have the speed to go all in like the players you mentioned.

So his only great chabce to do something is like you said, to cut in from the right and hope for a good left shoot.

he is limited, and maybe he can cut it in another teamw ith the charadcteristics he has... but here he will not scuceed more than what he has already.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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Its because he just doesnt have it to be on that tier of players.
Those players you mentioned have speed and trickery for days, while dybala lack both. yes you can maybe see dybala masking his lack of trickery with some nice flicks here and there but is not a constant, and once he tricks someone, he just doesnt have the speed to go all in like the players you mentioned.

So his only great chabce to do something is like you said, to cut in from the right and hope for a good left shoot.

he is limited, and maybe he can cut it in another teamw ith the charadcteristics he has... but here he will not scuceed more than what he has already.
Yep, THUS... do not renew.
 
Jun 7, 2003
3,496
I'm not sure Tevez is the best example to be used here but I think you're on to something.

I've never been able to put into words what I feel Dybala seems to lack as a forward but you kinda said it. If you're the adversary and you see the ball being passed to someone like Mbappe or Neymar you know shit is coming your way.

There's an aggressiveness, an unpredictability and constant danger you get from those sort of players. All the great forwards were like that.

Dybala does have his own bag of tricks but I'd say his strongest feat is positioning himself just outside the box on the right side, cutting to the left and getting that ball to the far left of the keeper. Similar to Robben in a way. He's scored a lot of goals that way which is absolutely fine.

But there's something that's just not there, maybe that constant danger feeling you get from other players. The menace as you said. Maybe there was another step up he was supposed to take on his football journey but he just never did.

I believe the potential was always there, you could see it from his Palermo days. I even thought he had similarities with Romário then. Maybe his story would've been different if he had picked a club that would use him to his strengths, maybe that's the problem. We didn't.
I think his best years will come in the next 3-4 years. That's why it is important to extend his contract. He is still 27.

He is the only one who is capable of taking good free kicks, we need that.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
Its because he just doesnt have it to be on that tier of players.
Those players you mentioned have speed and trickery for days, while dybala lack both. yes you can maybe see dybala masking his lack of trickery with some nice flicks here and there but is not a constant, and once he tricks someone, he just doesnt have the speed to go all in like the players you mentioned.

So his only great chabce to do something is like you said, to cut in from the right and hope for a good left shoot.

he is limited, and maybe he can cut it in another teamw ith the charadcteristics he has... but here he will not scuceed more than what he has already.
Agreed but those players were the first to come to mind, I could've mentioned less trickery non-winger type forwards like Batistuta or even Cavani. There was that extra menacing element when those guys touched the ball and they were not necessarily that technical.

Also, I don't think it's just a matter of lack of speed. Speed helps but it's maintaining a great ball control while doing his little bursts forward i don't think he is really great at that, at least not at longer distances. Reason why from day one I wanted us to build a team around him as a #9. Period. Stay as close to the goal as possible, take one or two touches and shoot. That's his habitat.

.Of course that would require a midfield that can create and be that connection or the guy would never even see the ball. So we can't provide him with what he needs and he can't perform to his full potential in the way we play. What's the damn point?
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
I think his best years will come in the next 3-4 years. That's why it is important to extend his contract. He is still 27.

He is the only one who is capable of taking good free kicks, we need that.
Based on what tho? He can only get worse stamina/fitness-wise and there is no superior technical ability to fall back on.
 

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