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Don't read too much into this. I doubt much changed (who knows if they even had a more then usual cordial relationship before), except it's more normal of a cold silent treatment when a teammate who chose to ditch you for "better" opportunities getting little to no good byes. Both Pogba and Vidal, compared to squad players we ditched like a bad habit in Llorente, Padoin and Pepe being much easier to show love in that scenario. There is no conflicting feelings on latter or hint of being left for money or more insulting for top athlete because that former teammate thinks some other team will win more then you.
It's much easier to thank someone for the good times had when you are doing the dumping.
Morata is more of half way between that, got warm good bye and he himself was classy leaving, because he had the perfect alibi with the clause and he is litterally going back home to boot. But without that clause I doubt he would gotten more then silent treatment himself either, even if some players might had better relationship with him.
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It's much easier to thank someone for the good times had when you are doing the dumping.
Morata is more of half way between that, got warm good bye and he himself was classy leaving, because he had the perfect alibi with the clause and he is litterally going back home to boot. But without that clause I doubt he would gotten more then silent treatment himself either, even if some players might had better relationship with him.
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I'm serious.
Have you watched Pogba these past 4 seasons for Juve? Verratti might be better as a dm [regista] but that's it.
Have you watched Pogba these past 4 seasons for Juve? Verratti might be better as a dm [regista] but that's it.
Also you never hear the kid say he wants to win ballon d'or and bla bla bla like a 10 year old.
The silence from the management is weird since the deal tho it's not much to say except official statements, they were silent in similar way after Vidal. There is not much way to spin selling a big prized asset to fans even if it's record fee, so they stay quiet and work on replacements is my guess.
From the players it's not unusual to not say good bye to players that "force" their way out for better career aspirations (money, betterleague or titles).
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From the players it's not unusual to not say good bye to players that "force" their way out for better career aspirations (money, betterleague or titles).
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THE WRONG MAN FOR MAN UTD
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...messiah?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
By Miles Chambers
Paul Pogba is not Manchester United's messiah; he's a very overpriced boy.
This is a deal that sits outside the realms of reason, logic and good taste. Splashing a €110 million transfer fee for a player who isn't a matchwinner like Cristiano Ronaldo or Gareth Bale is absurd, as is Pogba's desire to watch Juventus challenge for Champions League while he slugs away in the Europa League with Man Utd.
Make no mistake, Pogba is extremely talented. Graced with a poise and pizzazz that few midfielders on the planet are able to match, the 23-year-old has grown into the beating heart of a Juventus side that dominate Italian football.
But is he worth €110 million? Does he deserve the tag of the most expensive player in history? Will Jose Mourinho play him in his ideal position? No, probably not, and definitely not.
Mourinho plays 4-2-3-1 and Pogba is expected to sit alongside a defensive midfielder behind the four attackers. That won't suit Pogba, who is allowed to roam forwards in an attack-minded central midfield position for Juve.
Pogba didn't perform as well for France this summer in a more restrictive role and yet the suits with more money than sense at Old Trafford have decreed that he'll fit into an overrated manager's outdated system without difficulty.
And let's also be clear about something: Serie A is very different to the Premier League. Pogba was a big fish in a small pond in Italy, where Juventus reign supreme and the style of football is distinctly different.
In stark contrast, Man Utd couldn't make the top four last season and will be relying on two over-the-hill strikers (Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Wayne Rooney), a promising but inconsistent forward (Anthony Martial), and a teenager with tons of talent but very limited experience (Marcus Rashford) to fire them to glory in 2016-17. Pogba's got magical feet but he's not Houdini.
Fifteen years ago, Man Utd broke the English football transfer record by spending £28.1 million on Serie A midfield star Juan Sebastian Veron. The Argentine was expected to be a superstar but couldn't adapt to the pace of the Premier League and, though Sir Alex Ferguson branded Veron's critics "f*cking idiots" during his two-year spell at Old Trafford, he is widely considered one of the biggest flops in the club's history.
A decade later, Fergie was the "f*cking idiot" for disillusioning Pogba and it's cost Man Utd a nine-figure sum to buy him back. And like Veron's transfer 15 years ago, this is likely to be another case of a talented midfielder burdened with a huge transfer fee not fitting a belligerent Man Utd manager's masterplan.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...messiah?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
By Miles Chambers
Paul Pogba is not Manchester United's messiah; he's a very overpriced boy.
This is a deal that sits outside the realms of reason, logic and good taste. Splashing a €110 million transfer fee for a player who isn't a matchwinner like Cristiano Ronaldo or Gareth Bale is absurd, as is Pogba's desire to watch Juventus challenge for Champions League while he slugs away in the Europa League with Man Utd.
Make no mistake, Pogba is extremely talented. Graced with a poise and pizzazz that few midfielders on the planet are able to match, the 23-year-old has grown into the beating heart of a Juventus side that dominate Italian football.
But is he worth €110 million? Does he deserve the tag of the most expensive player in history? Will Jose Mourinho play him in his ideal position? No, probably not, and definitely not.
Mourinho plays 4-2-3-1 and Pogba is expected to sit alongside a defensive midfielder behind the four attackers. That won't suit Pogba, who is allowed to roam forwards in an attack-minded central midfield position for Juve.
Pogba didn't perform as well for France this summer in a more restrictive role and yet the suits with more money than sense at Old Trafford have decreed that he'll fit into an overrated manager's outdated system without difficulty.
And let's also be clear about something: Serie A is very different to the Premier League. Pogba was a big fish in a small pond in Italy, where Juventus reign supreme and the style of football is distinctly different.
In stark contrast, Man Utd couldn't make the top four last season and will be relying on two over-the-hill strikers (Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Wayne Rooney), a promising but inconsistent forward (Anthony Martial), and a teenager with tons of talent but very limited experience (Marcus Rashford) to fire them to glory in 2016-17. Pogba's got magical feet but he's not Houdini.
Fifteen years ago, Man Utd broke the English football transfer record by spending £28.1 million on Serie A midfield star Juan Sebastian Veron. The Argentine was expected to be a superstar but couldn't adapt to the pace of the Premier League and, though Sir Alex Ferguson branded Veron's critics "f*cking idiots" during his two-year spell at Old Trafford, he is widely considered one of the biggest flops in the club's history.
A decade later, Fergie was the "f*cking idiot" for disillusioning Pogba and it's cost Man Utd a nine-figure sum to buy him back. And like Veron's transfer 15 years ago, this is likely to be another case of a talented midfielder burdened with a huge transfer fee not fitting a belligerent Man Utd manager's masterplan.
That is true (but I add much more popular league too, that matters alot to someone like Pogba for sure), but the attitude they would receive from their former teammates should generally be the same, even if they left for different level teams, it's essentially ditching your teammates for better bigger more hyped aspirations.
That generally doesn't get you a good bye party with former coworkers.
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That generally doesn't get you a good bye party with former coworkers.
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