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How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
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Well i dont see as much talented Italian players as german players. German national team or the u 21 / u 20 etc have been really successful lately. I agree though, that lots of them are overrated or treated as the next big thing. Also posted this a while back. But in overall I would say the talent pool on Germany right now is bigger than in Italy
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
German football has a big suprplus of talents right now, its not even a question of being better then Italy's right now, its a question of when will Italy come to the same realization that the Germans did after WC 2002, and start to focus on nurturing and develop talent and certain style as they did since then.

It paid off big time, and it was a national wide effort with every club investing alot time and money in their youth academy's. The end result is current reality of being peak standard of the footballing world right now as a NT with said young players that came from that effort. And still continue to produce, even if to varying quality differences.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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German football has a big suprplus of talents right now, its not even a question of being better then Italy's right now, its a question of when will Italy come to the same realization that the Germans did after WC 2002, and start to focus on nurturing and develop talent and certain style as they did since then.

It paid off big time, and it was a national wide effort with every club investing alot time and money in their youth academy's. The end result is current reality of being peak standard of the footballing world right now as a NT with said young players that came from that effort. And still continue to produce, even if to varying quality differences.
and with all this, they are still not too far away from Italy. i wonder how strong the italian talent base would be if italian clubs and the FIGC would implement a similar system
 

Nicholas

MIRKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 30, 2008
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German football has a big suprplus of talents right now, its not even a question of being better then Italy's right now, its a question of when will Italy come to the same realization that the Germans did after WC 2002, and start to focus on nurturing and develop talent and certain style as they did since then.

It paid off big time, and it was a national wide effort with every club investing alot time and money in their youth academy's. The end result is current reality of being peak standard of the footballing world right now as a NT with said young players that came from that effort. And still continue to produce, even if to varying quality differences.
It's a poverty league with only one guaranteed winner for the foreseeable, any top player moving to the BL isn't going there for ambition.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
and with all this, they are still not too far away from Italy. i wonder how strong the italian talent base would be if italian clubs and the FIGC would implement a similar system
Italy is a big footie nation that despite in a downward or completely mismanagement, they will still remain reasonably good. But I look at Azzurri's call ups, and disagree, they are too far away for me liking for sure in individual quality right now. Only younger players who can be considered top/quality in their positions right now are Verratti, Darmian, Rugani and Berardi for me (possibly Romagnoli, but havent seen him enough). Rest look extremely bleak.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
It's a poverty league with only one guaranteed winner for the foreseeable, any top player moving to the BL isn't going there for ambition.
I did not talk about the league (outside of Bayern), which will never become that much of an international league, I barely know anyone who knows fans of bundesliga fans even (occasional Bayern&dortmund fans you encounter, but rare). Everything I mentionned was the extremely good work they have done with their football, youth level as a national effort, and very very very healthy system they have financially and with the positive fan culture with nonstop filled stadiums without being complete sell-outs ala EPL. They have overtaken the Spanish as the focal point of the sport right now, let see how long they can keep it up. They been almost there type of top team with their soft mentality golden generation, lets see if they can make a dynasty of it or not.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Italy is a big footie nation that despite in a downward or completely mismanagement, they will still remainly reasonably good. But I look at Azzurri's call ups, and disagree, they are too far away for me liking for sure in individual quality right now. Only younger players who can be considered top/quality in their positions right now are Verratti, Darmian, Rugani and Berardi for me (possibly Romagnoli, but havent seen him enough). Rest look extremely bleak.
Germany hasnt really that much more talents in the same age group either. a number of top ones, and the rest is of similar level to the Serie A ones, slightly better/weaker
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Bardi, rugani, romangnoli,benassi, sturaro, bernadeschi, Berardi, trotta to name a few and these aren't even the youth
Give you the bold ones, rest havent done squat, or shown much of anything worth shortlisting as quality production of future top players. Bernadeschi may become one, but it remains to be seen, barely played senior footie.
 

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