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How many minutes will he play for jj in 23-24 season?


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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Germany hasnt really that much more talents in the same age group either. a number of top ones, and the rest is of similar level to the Serie A ones, slightly better/weaker



Dont underestimate what a golden generation it is dude. I mentionned Darmian who is at 26 oldest amongst the younger quality italians, (didnt want to mention Marchisio cuz dude is near 30, or other nearest top player in his position Bonucci, who is 28), Germans who are in that age group and younger is filled with excellent to top quality. Muller, Götze, Özil, Hummels, Boateng, Kroos, Reus, Gundogan, ALL accomplished players who will compete for top titles long whole yet since oldest one is 26 (Hummels). Then you have a host of good midlevel ones (Schurrle, Bellarabi, Bender, Badstuber, Kramer etc) that are in same age group.


Then you have the potential top/excellent to good talents like Draxler, Volland, Meyer, Arnold, Göretzka, Emre Can, Sule, Rudiger, Ginter etc. And their most stacked talent position, neverending supply of good/top goalie ones.



Bizzarely enough the one position they cant produce quality (besides fullbacks) is strikers, complete dearth in it.

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The others also play on squads that don't really use them or actually count
Why do you think that is?



Only one who screams talent that must be used now is Bernadeschi, and he still has alot to prove, though genuinly looks like he can become some really good.
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,440
The question is then - Who are the big talents in the Bundesliga?
Ter stegen, leno, Knoche, can, ruediger, geis, meyer, kimmich, Goetze, draxler, volland, goretzka, Tah, sane, bellerabi
Weigl, Stendera, Brandt and the list goes on... Plus the Stars of the nt aren't even old
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Being pessimistic won't make it easier to swallow. You gain nothing by being pessimistic. On the other hand take things lighthearted and you'll be happier and healthier even if you think it's delusional.

I don't mind selling both Morata and Pogba next year and having a massive transfer budget. So, either way is good for me. I'm not bitter at all and I'm excited about the new season with so many new and young players.
massive tranfer budget means nothing when players dont value the league.

see goatze for example.

it's better to keep hold of our stars. this is how you build fanbase and marketability.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,126



Dont underestimate what a golden generation it is dude. I mentionned Darmian who is at 26 oldest amongst the younger quality italians, (didnt want to mention Marchisio cuz dude is near 30, or other nearest top player in his position Bonucci, who is 28), Germans who are in that age group and younger is filled with excellent to top quality. Muller, Götze, Özil, Hummels, Boateng, Kroos, Reus, Gundogan, ALL accomplished players who will compete for top titles long whole yet since oldest one is 26 (Hummels). Then you have a host of good midlevel ones (Schurrle, Bellarabi, Bender, Badstuber, Kramer etc) that are in same age group.


Then you have the potential top/excellent to good talents like Draxler, Volland, Meyer, Arnold, Göretzka, Emre Can, Sule, Rudiger, Ginter etc. And their most stacked talent position, neverending supply of good/top goalie ones.



Bizzarely enough the one position they cant produce quality (besides fullbacks) is strikers, complete dearth in it.

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Why do you think that is?



Only one who screams talent that must be used now is Bernadeschi, and he still has alot to prove, though genuinly looks like he can become some really good.
Honestly because Italian teams are becoming like English clubs , farm out and buy don't worry about growing home grown talent
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,568
draxler volland geis meyer ginter werner best german talents
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Ter stegen, leno, Knoche, can, ruediger, geis, meyer, kimmich, Goetze, draxler, volland, goretzka
Weigl, Stendera, Brandt and the list goes on
With so much talent there has to be a future German hegemony in European cups...

massive tranfer budget means nothing when players dont value the league.

see goatze for example.

it's better to keep hold of our stars. this is how you build fanbase and marketability.
140 mil euro are a lot, but yeah, you're right. We only should sell if we can get the new Buffon, Nedved, Del Piero and etc players from the deal. Otherwise we'll become like Tottenham.
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,440
Exactly. Then wtf is your point?
That's the second difference. Italy still hardly trust its youngsters. While Germans give them a chance. Clubs still rather sign a 30 year old than using some youth players. Berardi would have 20 Cl games by now he if were German.
The good thing is , it seems to trust young players a bit more
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,964
Well what's he gonna say? You all are a bit hypocritical you choose to believe some people's words then you say we'll just because the player said he didn't want to leave now look. Which one is it ? Stand by people's words or no? Also how do you choose whose trust worthy in their words ?
No offence but this club has a history of selling their big names. Pogba is no exception to that fact
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
That's the second difference. Italy still hardly trust its youngsters. While Germans give them a chance. Clubs still rather sign a 30 year old than using some youth players. Berardi would have 20 Cl games by now he if were German.
The good thing is , it seems to trust young players a bit more
they don't feel the pressure of money like italian clubs do...shalke can play meyer and draxler and give goretzka 2 matches of cl (if already qualified) .. those are players u21. take napoli or roma for example..they won't do that shit. i'd sell pogba for 5 german players u20..even u19 (at my personal pick).
 

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