Paris attacks (10 Viewers)
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To be honest I have no idea what ISIS is fighting for or trying to achieve. If it is an "Islamic State", as the name suggests, I cant identify with the cause. Myself, as a born, bred, practising muslim, my friends, families, the muslims we know both here and abroad (including my Australian fiance who recently converted) - none of us for once ever read, taught or told something that is even remotely close to what ISIS is practising now. And we are talking about 26 years now of exposure to Islam. If it is a rebirth of some form of Islamic radicalism, it certainly did not spread to the extent of us "normal" Muslims as none of this was also conveyed to my fiance who has gone for various Islamic classes for 2 yrs prior to converting.
What I am trying to say is arguments about religion itself and/or how it should not mix w politics etc. Is fair - each to his/her own, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. But to make blatant remarks blaming Islam for everything or lacking the ability to differentiate a terrorist group from other millions of practising muslims (and by default spreading hate) really irks me. Why? I can almost guarantee not a single one who makes such remarks even knows a Muslim personally, or probably their knowledge is extended to just articles that they have read. How can they claim to know Islam so well? How can they tell me what it is or impose their so called opinions on someone like me, the ACTUAL muslim?
Sorry but this is very frustrating. People should THINK more about what they write. Discuss the political or religious landscape all you want in a respectful manner but dont start putting stupid general remarks about something you dont even understand because all that will do is spread hate and just adds to the problem instead of resolving it.
What I am trying to say is arguments about religion itself and/or how it should not mix w politics etc. Is fair - each to his/her own, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. But to make blatant remarks blaming Islam for everything or lacking the ability to differentiate a terrorist group from other millions of practising muslims (and by default spreading hate) really irks me. Why? I can almost guarantee not a single one who makes such remarks even knows a Muslim personally, or probably their knowledge is extended to just articles that they have read. How can they claim to know Islam so well? How can they tell me what it is or impose their so called opinions on someone like me, the ACTUAL muslim?
Sorry but this is very frustrating. People should THINK more about what they write. Discuss the political or religious landscape all you want in a respectful manner but dont start putting stupid general remarks about something you dont even understand because all that will do is spread hate and just adds to the problem instead of resolving it.
Nice try.
Perhaps atheists are to me what "nice guys" are to Andries: I hold them to a tougher standard because of their self-important hypocrisy.
Clearly an atheist cannot believe religion comes from God/the gods. Thus it therefore must be an innate thing that originates within humans. And unless I'm mistaken, all the atheists in the world are humans as well coincidentally. Until that separation is proven, they're no different.
Perhaps atheists are to me what "nice guys" are to Andries: I hold them to a tougher standard because of their self-important hypocrisy.
Clearly an atheist cannot believe religion comes from God/the gods. Thus it therefore must be an innate thing that originates within humans. And unless I'm mistaken, all the atheists in the world are humans as well coincidentally. Until that separation is proven, they're no different.
