Nick Against the World (58 Viewers)

Martin

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Geof said:
You can believe without going to church. But that means faith becomes something individual. Many believers agree that faith has both an individual side (praying, being a good person,...) and a community side (mass, sacraments, evangelism, converting,... proselytism?).
Jesus barely talked to individuals in the gospels, he preferred talking to the 12, or even better, to large groups of people. I think christianity has a vocation for being universal. Every true christian (and probably muslim also) hopes somewhere that the whole world would one day believe in God. But except for some extremists, all agree that faith can only mean someting if it's based on free will. Forcing someone to believe is a total absurdity. Hence the stupidity of proselytism, but not of evangelism (converting).
Well put, Geof. But the thing is that 'grand' mass is on Sundays. Everyday mass is not as celebrated. Well, perhaps that depends on where you are, but at least that's what I'm used to. And you can participate in the religion fully by just going on Sundays. So when Seven said true believers go to church everyday, my reaction is that you don't have to be in church to be a believer. You can pray for hours everyday and just go on Sunday, that's perfectly acceptable.
 
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IncuboRossonero

IncuboRossonero

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Nov 16, 2003
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    Altair said:
    Every nation IS ruled by religious based laws, but not everyone believes babies are going to hell because they werent baptized or that owning/financing a square foot of the sistine grants you VIP access to heaven. Look at this way a dude who thinks using sondoms is sinful is calling another group backwards?
    Please tell me how COMMON LAW is a religioius law (based on jurisprudence...case law)....please tell me how civil law is a Religious law (based on the Civil Code which has been modified many times and originates from Justinian's code..anything BUT religious and the NAPOLEONIC CODE..anything BUT religious).

    compare that to Muslim law which is a religious based law.

    no one believes babies that are not baptized are going to hell ... you have made it clear that you have a very limited knowledge of the sh*t you post...unless you are well informed I suggest you don't reply

    p.s. try using a condom rather than sondom
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    IncuboRossonero said:
    Please tell me how COMMON LAW is a religioius law (based on jurisprudence...case law)....please tell me how civil law is a Religious law (based on the Civil Code which has been modified many times and originates from Justinian's code..anything BUT religious and the NAPOLEONIC CODE..anything BUT religious).

    compare that to Muslim law which is a religious based law.

    :lol: you really made me chuckle. you really do fit the bill: loud empty and no direction.
    where do i start? Your boy Justinian, what was his title? pontified your boy; and your common law argument are we talking code or application of precedence( the most common of senses)? As for Napoleonic it came out strictly as a reaction to christianity( the same napoleon who sacked the vatican coz he was jealous) Now to my plat de resistance: the swearing of oath? the cornerstone of legal matter you know witness, perjury blah blah


    IncuboRossonero said:
    no one believes babies that are not baptized are going to hell ... you have made it clear that you have a very limited knowledge of the sh*t you post...unless you are well informed I suggest you don't reply

    p.s. try using a condom rather than sondom
    oh i bet every pope(and christian for that matter) up to the 13th century would disagree with your statement there, what? even st augustine? yes even st augustine shared that view. Now please, run along with your ignorance, run along and resume your urine handling activities.

    N.B: writing about condoms might get you excommunicated :pint:
     

    Seven

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    Jun 25, 2003
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    Martin said:
    It's like Pado said, if you're a believer, that's enough in itself. You don't have to go to church to prove anything to yourself. You can never go to church and still be very devout.
    Not if you're a catholic. The people I'm referring to are catholics. I've always been a fan of individual belief, without public meeting places, but if you do want to call yourself a catholic, you'll have to go to church every now and then.
     

    JCK

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    May 11, 2004
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    sateeh said:
    :agree: Kaladze equalised by initially using his hand

    anyway milanista cant even win a game. Toothles upfront tbh.

    This is what happens when they rely too much on one player, and they used to deny that when he was playing with them. I now know why he is called Judas among the herd these days.
     

    Geof

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    May 14, 2004
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    Zulte-Waregem 0-4 Anderlecht
    N. Frutos x2, M. Tchité, B. Goor

    Be warned Nick!

    Remember Mémé Tchité? He did the Asian tour with Juve a year ago. He was still playing for Standard at the time, and has been transferred to RSC Anderlecht this summer. He already scored 7 goals in the Jupiler league.
     

    Martin

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    Dec 31, 2000
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    Seven said:
    Not if you're a catholic. The people I'm referring to are catholics. I've always been a fan of individual belief, without public meeting places, but if you do want to call yourself a catholic, you'll have to go to church every now and then.
    I posted a slight modification of this extreme a few posts back in a reply to Geof.
     

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