And should Max have 2 CL wins right now, no one could say he didn't deserve it. Pogba was rugby tackled in the box by Alves in 2015 while it was 1-1, should have been a penalty, and then Alves fouled him again to win the ball that started the counter for Barca's second goal. In 2017, Mandzukic and Pjanic both picked up knocks in the first half when it was 1-1 and we were playing toe-to-toe with Madrid, second half we collapsed with two of our best players that year injured and no good subs on the bench.
See... two can play at this game.
Lippi's team lost 3 CL finals. You can make excuses, but his team still lost them. Two of them two clearly inferior teams.
Just like Allegri's team has lost 2 CL finals, excuses can be made, but his team still lost them. Even though he lost them to teams with better players both times.
Trapattoni only lost 1, and there are excuses to be made for his loss too... but his team still lost it. And to a clearly inferior team.
Maybe we can just say Juventus have had rotten luck in CL, and at the same time have not helped ourselves in the finals there, both players and coaches shooting themselves in the foot at various times.
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Of course they are. I'm not on the "Hate-Pep" bandwagon. I don't like his personality, but he's still a top coach.
But you've been asking for Max to be fired for a while now. Do you think Pep should be fired from City too? 3 years without getting past QFs while spending more than anyone in football.