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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
69,334
This is obviously a botched evacuation. My point is Trump's projected "strength" would not have prevented ISIS from attacking Kabul airport in a similar situation. You could say Trump administration was less of a shit show, which is debatable.
Trump admin with EVERY institution agaisnt it never had as close a meltdown as this, there's no debate there. This is the worst humiliation for the US i have ever seen in my lifetime.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,559
Trump admin with EVERY institution agaisnt it never had as close a meltdown as this, there's no debate there. This is the worst humiliation for the US i have ever seen in my lifetime.
Unless you’re born after 9/11/01, that statement is just hyperbole. But yeah early days of COVID was pure shit show. Pres tweeting nonsensical statements contradicting his own advisors, giving mixed messages on TV, “Liberate Michigan”, etc.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
69,334
Unless you’re born after 9/11/01, that statement is just hyperbole. But yeah early days of COVID was pure shit show. Pres tweeting nonsensical statements contradicting his own advisors, giving mixed messages on TV, “Liberate Michigan”, etc.
9/11 wasn't a humiliation, being attached isn't humiliating, how you react to being attacked on the othwr hand now that could be humiliating. So you wouldn't take nonsensical/rude tweets over this fiasco of biblical proportion(that's hyperbole fyi)?
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,349
Trump admin with EVERY institution agaisnt it never had as close a meltdown as this, there's no debate there. This is the worst humiliation for the US i have ever seen in my lifetime.
This.


And the tweet from Andy LOLOL....He was given a list of who to call on :lol:

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ISIS-K, the delta variant to ISIL. LOLOL

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But this his funny...he thinks about it and is like nooooope.

 
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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,559
9/11 wasn't a humiliation, being attached isn't humiliating, how you react to being attacked on the othwr hand now that could be humiliating. So you wouldn't take nonsensical/rude tweets over this fiasco of biblical proportion(that's hyperbole fyi)?
This is bad, but that was frightening too. You can’t have commander in chief doing such things. If things eventually got calmer it was in spite of trump not because of him.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,510
So some politician went on an unauthorized trip to Kabul and said he was at the gate. Now he’s back in NYC on CNN. OK. He said that the Marines had to go “into the crowd” at the front gate and find the Americans or other allies that were worthy of getting rushed to a plane.

I guess this is believable, but it seems like they literally left people behind to fend for the themselves to get to the airport. Then tasked a team of marines to wade through a crowd of hundreds. This doesn’t seem like a recipe for success, but maybe that’s just me.

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Trump admin with EVERY institution agaisnt it never had as close a meltdown as this, there's no debate there. This is the worst humiliation for the US i have ever seen in my lifetime.
The only meltdowns were created by the media. Just imagine if Trump was in there today.

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This.


And the tweet from Andy LOLOL....He was given a list of who to call on :lol:

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ISIS-K, the delta variant to ISIL. LOLOL

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But this his funny...he thinks about it and is like nooooope.

They obviously give Biden a script for everything because he can’t even put coherent thoughts together on the fly, as noticed by his weird ass everyday interactions
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,016
This is obviously a botched evacuation. My point is Trump's projected "strength" would not have prevented ISIS from attacking Kabul airport in a similar situation. You could say Trump administration was less of a shit show, which is debatable.
It was less of a shit show and that is an incredible achievement by the Biden administration.

By the way, I don't know what pills they are giving Biden to appear conscious but his brain has literally turned to mashed potatoes.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,559
Forget about Afghanistan, shits about to get rough with the supreme Court's decision. I dunno much about the situation, but mass eviction right near fall, ooouuuuff gonna be tough times.

Hope all my Tuz bros stay safe.
In Austin, where I used to live, house prices jumped ~50%. Rents did not increase by much since a lot of apartments were built too, but numbers of renters sure did.
And now this is going to be awful.
 

abstract

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2012
4,402

  • March 1–18, 2002 – Eight U.S. soldiers were killed and another 72 were wounded in Operation Anaconda. Most of the casualties were sustained during the Battle of Takur Ghar when a U.S. transport helicopter was shot down and another one was so badly damaged that it had to land or risk crashing also. All of those killed were members of various special operations units.
  • June 28, 2005 – 19 U.S. special operations troops were killed in Operation Red Wings. Three of them, Navy SEALs, were killed when their four-man team was ambushed in the mountains of Kunar province. The fourth team member was missing in action for four days before being rescued. After the initial ambush the team called for reinforcements and a quick reaction force dispatched. As they approached the ambush site, insurgents fired an RPG at the helicopter carrying the QRF, shooting it down. All 16 on board were killed. Eight of them were Navy Seals while the other eight were members of the Nightstalkers regiment.
  • November 19, 2007 – Five US Army soldiers and one Marine were killed when their footpatrol was attacked by direct fire from enemy forces in Aranus, Afghanistan. The soldiers were assigned to 2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy. The Marine was assigned to Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center, Bridgeport, California.[16][17]
  • July 13, 2008 – Nine U.S. soldiers were killed and another 27 wounded during the Battle of Wanat. A force of 200 Taliban fighters had attacked a remote U.S. outpost at the town of Wanat in an attempt to overrun the base. The base's observation post, positioned on a tiny hill about 50 to 75 meters from the main base, was overrun during the battle and most of the casualties were sustained there. Eventually, U.S. forces managed to repulse the attack but had to evacuate the base a few days later. The battle is considered a U.S. tactical victory, but also a Taliban strategic victory. The soldiers involved in the battle were part of 2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy.
  • October 3, 2009 – Eight U.S. soldiers were killed and another 24 wounded during the Battle of Kamdesh. A force of 300 Taliban fighters had attacked a U.S. outpost at the town of Kamdesh in an attempt to overrun the base. The Afghan part of the base was overrun during the battle which left four Afghan security forces members dead, 10 wounded and 20 captured. The soldiers involved in the battle were part of 3rd Squadron, 61st Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colorado.
  • December 30, 2009 – Five U.S. CIA employees and 2 Xe PMCs were killed and another six wounded in a suicide bomb attack on a military base in Khost province. The Afghan PMC chief of security for the base and a Jordanian military officer from the Jordanian spy agency Dairat al-Mukhabarat al-Ammah were also killed in the attack.
  • On May 28, 2010, the 1,000th American fatality in Afghanistan was a Marine from Camp Pendleton killed by a roadside bomb while on a foot patrol in Helmand province.[18][12]
  • On August 22, 2010, two U.S. soldiers from the Vermont Army National Guard, 3rd Company, 172nd Infantry, 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team were killed during an attack in Paktya province. [19]
  • On September 21, 2010 a Black Hawk helicopter crashed in Qalat killing five soldiers of the 101st Airborne, three Navy Seals, and one Naval Special Warfare support technician.[20][21]
  • October 2010, 4 Marines with 3rd Battalion 5th Marines were killed in the Sangin district when an IED destroyed the MATV they were riding in. The 3/5 Sangin deployment was the deadliest deployment for the whole of the Marine Corps.
  • April 27, 2011 – Eight United States Air Force Airmen and one American contractor were killed at the Kabul Airport. An Afghan Air Corps pilot became angry during an argument in the operations room at the airfield, then suddenly drew his gun and began shooting. The shooter was fatally wounded at the end of the incident.[22]
  • August 6, 2011 – 30 American servicemembers, including 22 Navy SEALs, were killed along with seven Afghan special forces members and an Afghan civilian interpreter when their transport helicopter was shot down in Wardak province. A U.S. military dog also died.[6][7]
  • February 2012 – Four soldiers were killed in the 2012 Afghanistan Quran burning protests.
  • August 2012 – Afghan security forces kill twelve US soldiers in so-called "green on blue" attacks.[23]
  • October 2012 – Three American soldiers killed as a result of a suicide strike against a joint U.S.-Afghan combat team in Eastern Afghanistan that left a total of 14 dead.[24]
  • March 11, 2013 – Seven Americans died this day when a helicopter crashed in southern Afghanistan that killed five American service members and earlier two U.S. special operations forces were gunned down in an insider attack by an Afghan policeman in eastern Afghanistan.[25]
  • April 6, 2013, Three U.S. service members in Southern Afghanistan were killed when a suicide bomber detonated a car full of explosives just as a convoy with the international military coalition drove past another convoy of vehicles carrying the governor of Zabul province in that province.[26]
  • May 3, 2013, Three US Air Force crewmembers were killed when their KC-135R crashed in Kyrgyzstan while on a combat air refueling mission to Afghanistan.
  • May 4, 2013, Seven U.S. service members were killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan.[27]
  • January 11, 2020, Two U.S. service members were killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan.[28]
  • January 27, 2020, Two US Air Force crewmembers were killed when an E-11A aircraft crashed
  • February 9, 2020, Two U.S. Special Operations Soldiers were killed and six service members wounded from an insider "Green on Blue" attack in Nangarhar.[29]
  • August 26, 2021, Thirteen U.S. service members from the US Marine Corps and US Navy were killed in a suicide bombing attack [30] during evacuations at the Kabul airport.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,825

  • March 1–18, 2002 – Eight U.S. soldiers were killed and another 72 were wounded in Operation Anaconda. Most of the casualties were sustained during the Battle of Takur Ghar when a U.S. transport helicopter was shot down and another one was so badly damaged that it had to land or risk crashing also. All of those killed were members of various special operations units.
  • June 28, 2005 – 19 U.S. special operations troops were killed in Operation Red Wings. Three of them, Navy SEALs, were killed when their four-man team was ambushed in the mountains of Kunar province. The fourth team member was missing in action for four days before being rescued. After the initial ambush the team called for reinforcements and a quick reaction force dispatched. As they approached the ambush site, insurgents fired an RPG at the helicopter carrying the QRF, shooting it down. All 16 on board were killed. Eight of them were Navy Seals while the other eight were members of the Nightstalkers regiment.
  • November 19, 2007 – Five US Army soldiers and one Marine were killed when their footpatrol was attacked by direct fire from enemy forces in Aranus, Afghanistan. The soldiers were assigned to 2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy. The Marine was assigned to Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center, Bridgeport, California.[16][17]
  • July 13, 2008 – Nine U.S. soldiers were killed and another 27 wounded during the Battle of Wanat. A force of 200 Taliban fighters had attacked a remote U.S. outpost at the town of Wanat in an attempt to overrun the base. The base's observation post, positioned on a tiny hill about 50 to 75 meters from the main base, was overrun during the battle and most of the casualties were sustained there. Eventually, U.S. forces managed to repulse the attack but had to evacuate the base a few days later. The battle is considered a U.S. tactical victory, but also a Taliban strategic victory. The soldiers involved in the battle were part of 2nd Battalion, 503rd Airborne Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy.
  • October 3, 2009 – Eight U.S. soldiers were killed and another 24 wounded during the Battle of Kamdesh. A force of 300 Taliban fighters had attacked a U.S. outpost at the town of Kamdesh in an attempt to overrun the base. The Afghan part of the base was overrun during the battle which left four Afghan security forces members dead, 10 wounded and 20 captured. The soldiers involved in the battle were part of 3rd Squadron, 61st Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colorado.
  • December 30, 2009 – Five U.S. CIA employees and 2 Xe PMCs were killed and another six wounded in a suicide bomb attack on a military base in Khost province. The Afghan PMC chief of security for the base and a Jordanian military officer from the Jordanian spy agency Dairat al-Mukhabarat al-Ammah were also killed in the attack.
  • On May 28, 2010, the 1,000th American fatality in Afghanistan was a Marine from Camp Pendleton killed by a roadside bomb while on a foot patrol in Helmand province.[18][12]
  • On August 22, 2010, two U.S. soldiers from the Vermont Army National Guard, 3rd Company, 172nd Infantry, 86th Infantry Brigade Combat Team were killed during an attack in Paktya province. [19]
  • On September 21, 2010 a Black Hawk helicopter crashed in Qalat killing five soldiers of the 101st Airborne, three Navy Seals, and one Naval Special Warfare support technician.[20][21]
  • October 2010, 4 Marines with 3rd Battalion 5th Marines were killed in the Sangin district when an IED destroyed the MATV they were riding in. The 3/5 Sangin deployment was the deadliest deployment for the whole of the Marine Corps.
  • April 27, 2011 – Eight United States Air Force Airmen and one American contractor were killed at the Kabul Airport. An Afghan Air Corps pilot became angry during an argument in the operations room at the airfield, then suddenly drew his gun and began shooting. The shooter was fatally wounded at the end of the incident.[22]
  • August 6, 2011 – 30 American servicemembers, including 22 Navy SEALs, were killed along with seven Afghan special forces members and an Afghan civilian interpreter when their transport helicopter was shot down in Wardak province. A U.S. military dog also died.[6][7]
  • February 2012 – Four soldiers were killed in the 2012 Afghanistan Quran burning protests.
  • August 2012 – Afghan security forces kill twelve US soldiers in so-called "green on blue" attacks.[23]
  • October 2012 – Three American soldiers killed as a result of a suicide strike against a joint U.S.-Afghan combat team in Eastern Afghanistan that left a total of 14 dead.[24]
  • March 11, 2013 – Seven Americans died this day when a helicopter crashed in southern Afghanistan that killed five American service members and earlier two U.S. special operations forces were gunned down in an insider attack by an Afghan policeman in eastern Afghanistan.[25]
  • April 6, 2013, Three U.S. service members in Southern Afghanistan were killed when a suicide bomber detonated a car full of explosives just as a convoy with the international military coalition drove past another convoy of vehicles carrying the governor of Zabul province in that province.[26]
  • May 3, 2013, Three US Air Force crewmembers were killed when their KC-135R crashed in Kyrgyzstan while on a combat air refueling mission to Afghanistan.
  • May 4, 2013, Seven U.S. service members were killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan.[27]
  • January 11, 2020, Two U.S. service members were killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan.[28]
  • January 27, 2020, Two US Air Force crewmembers were killed when an E-11A aircraft crashed
  • February 9, 2020, Two U.S. Special Operations Soldiers were killed and six service members wounded from an insider "Green on Blue" attack in Nangarhar.[29]
  • August 26, 2021, Thirteen U.S. service members from the US Marine Corps and US Navy were killed in a suicide bombing attack [30] during evacuations at the Kabul airport.
so Biden did well to end all this.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,559
It's Afghanistan man. Biggest shithole on the planet. Shit will go wrong no matter what.
Nah silly excuse. Pentagon and its $700B budget could not establish a decent intelligence network after 20 years and were led to believe Afghan government would either survive, or survive long enough for US forces to get out. Blinken also is a massive idiot who was involved in every wrong decision US made in 8 years of Obama (Syria, Libya, and Iran).
 

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