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In reality, it should be "who the hell cares who you are voting for..." It's not like any of these clowns, democrat or republican are going to change anything for the better.
seriously. Hilary vs. Trump/Carson I wouldn't even vote.

I have Swiss ancestry and that seems like a great place to live....maybe i could apply for citizenship there? :p
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Look at out how Reza handles this simplistic and deflectively childish Trump aide, kinda funny this is a natural discourse in political context now...


 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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@Zacheryah


Look at out how Reza handles this simplistic and deflectively childish Trump aide, kinda funny this is a natural discourse in political context now...


I can't watch the video atm, but you need to keep an eye open when listening to Reza. He has a lot of good points, but once in a while he just pulls facts out of his ass that have nothing to do with reality, just to support his argument.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Everyone has their biases and subjective nature, but pretty much most of what he says can easily be fact checked, he speaks in simple understandable terms and doesnt need to often get too indepth or academical, since those he is talking to tend to be laymen in media.



Also I dont need to fact chact the above clip, because as usual he just needs to repeat the obvious to hateful people with agenda, its inane Obama is still called or insinuated to be a muslim (as an insult), and that aide, Carson and Trump say or imply like its a fact. When Aslan simply has to clarify someone who says they are raised and see themselves a christian isnt muslim, a muslim is someone sees themselves a a muslim :lol:
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Yeah, as I said alot of his points stand and the one you explained is one of those. I do remember watching a clip of his a few years ago where he talked about progressive muslim nations. Everything he said about female circumcision in that clip was wrong, not because I think all muslim countries are backward or that the cultures are inherently backward, he was factually wrong about the number of female circimcision in some countries and blatantly lied that it only happens in subsahara to bolster his point.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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I very much know about female circumcision as a Somali, and know he simplied/skewed his point there. But he was complete right about the overall OBVIOUS point, that its NOT a islamic/religious practice, but a regional/tribal/rural and primarly "cultural" one. The fact that some ignorant village leader blabbers about justifying it with religion, as with any other cultural practice is irrelevant. Thats the main fact he was clarifying, the fact he glossed over it happens in some ME countries for similar archaic tribal/cultural reasons too was unnecessary (tho it is primarly common in africa, regardless of said people's religions) or didnt do his research enough, compared those absolute morons he was arguing against who did NO research, or did some and were just interested in spreading hateful disinformation.

To clarify further:

Many Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion[1] but rather in culture. "When one considers that the practice does not prevail and is much condemned in countries like Saudi Arabia, the center of the Islamic world, it becomes clear that the notion that it is an Islamic practice is a false one," Haseena Lockhat, a child clinical psychologist at North Warwickshire Primary Care Trust, wrote.[2] True, FGM occurs in non-Muslim societies in Africa. And in Arab states such as Egypt, where perhaps 97 percent of girls suffer genital mutilation,[3] both Christian Copts and Muslims are complicit.

But at the village level, those who commit the practice believe it to be religiously mandated. Religion is not only theology but also practice. And the practice is widespread throughout the Middle East. Many diplomats, international organization workers, and Arabists argue that the problem is localized to North Africa or sub-Saharan Africa,[4] but they are wrong. The problem is pervasive throughout the Levant, the Fertile Crescent, and the Arabian Peninsula, and among many immigrants to the West from these countries. Silence on the issue is less reflective of the absence of the problem than insufficient freedom for feminists and independent civil society to raise the issue.


Sorry for the offtopic segway y'all.
 

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