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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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You are grazing passed my other posts: I said when he his history the media moves onto the next republican.

With the dem side they are conflicted because they don't know how to support them all. It's obvious man
Not really. It's just that Republicans provide oh so juicy details. Don't wanna look like a cunt? Don't say cunty things. Or even better, don't get caught saying cunty things in private.

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Personally, I would rather have someone in there who doesn't have a clue instead of individuals who are bought and paid for, working exclusively as career politicians serving themselves and their masters. The damage to the country would probably be less. We don't need any more Bushs, we don't need more Clintons.
That's silly bro. President is just one guy. Still it should be someone with some sort of political experience and knowledge..

In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter who it is because they're not really going to change things that much. Congress effects way more than the Pres, yet we consider Obama the antichrist. Weird.
 

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Hust

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Not really. It's just that Republicans provide oh so juicy details. Don't wanna look like a cunt? Don't say cunty things. Or even better, don't get caught saying cunty things in private.
So you're telling me there is no media bias in this country with mainstream media?
 

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Personally, I would rather have someone in there who doesn't have a clue instead of individuals who are bought and paid for, working exclusively as career politicians serving themselves and their masters. The damage to the country would probably be less. We don't need any more Bushs, we don't need more Clintons.
Doesn't Bush fit into both categories?
 

Osman

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That's what he needs to do, but once the debates return to CNN, NBC, and ABC, they will surely give him less time since he's not an establishment candidate. I will still write him in regardless of what happens.



Why do you care so much about Carson lying about his past when Hillary and the rest of the clowns lie about policy? I mean hell, Hillary lied to the faces of the families connected in the Bengazi attacks, yet the media never brings that up. This is why people hate the "Liberal media", which isn't really "Liberal" at all but rather authoritarian.

Because lying about his past, gaffs about if jews had guns vs nazis, massacre victims should rush gunman, letting some popeyes getting robbed and supposedly attempting to murder someone, all claims he makes himself willingly, is what his campaign seem to be about? As bad and dishonest the other politicians are, they are actually that, politicians. This guy doesnt seem to even function on the basics of what a politician should operate as (shows little to no clue about geopolitical facts, neither does Trump), nor attempts to discuss said policies he wants to bring forth (when he was asked about it in last debate, he faltered and latter cried about being asked about it???) and seems to focus his campaign on cuckoo statements and being on the defensive about said cuckoo statements. If the discourse with him was him talking about actual politics (like its with Rand), then yeah that would been what to judge him on, but he seems to have so little clue in such matters that he is happily feeding this erratic persona that has him as one of the top runners for the nomination.


This is what I mean with standards, you have to hold up to actually passing the basic standards even the horrible lying career politicians do, but he seems to be incapable of it. Do you find him knowledgeable or experienced in ANY WAY? Hillary Clinton sure is, regardless of what you think of her, Obama is, is this guy or Trump acceptable to pass the grade for the minimum expected of them? Its easy to say it cant get any worse until you help vote in utter incompetent crazy morons.


And saying anything about Hillary doesnt matter, there is no stopping her nomination in this broken system, lack of choice AND being the prime establishment candidate means its fruitless. Focusing on who should face her should be much more prudent. And so far it all seems to be two imcompetent nutjobs and Rand Paul, really weird...
 

Bjerknes

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Not really. It's just that Republicans provide oh so juicy details. Don't wanna look like a $#@!? Don't say $#@!y things. Or even better, don't get caught saying $#@!y things in private.

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That's silly bro. President is just one guy. Still it should be someone with some sort of political experience and knowledge..

In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter who it is because they're not really going to change things that much. Congress effects way more than the Pres, yet we consider Obama the antichrist. Weird.
What is so great about political experience? Why do we have an obsession with career politicians?

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Not really. It's just that Republicans provide oh so juicy details. Don't wanna look like a $#@!? Don't say $#@!y things. Or even better, don't get caught saying $#@!y things in private.

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That's silly bro. President is just one guy. Still it should be someone with some sort of political experience and knowledge..

In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter who it is because they're not really going to change things that much. Congress effects way more than the Pres, yet we consider Obama the antichrist. Weird.
What is so great about political experience? Why do we have an obsession with career politicians?
 

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So you're telling me there is no media bias in this country with mainstream media?
There is, but it's generally directed toward people that ask for it. Trump says all Mexicans are murderers and rapists, surprised that the media asks him questions about this.

Ben Carson says he believes the ancient pyramids are really granaries built by aliens, surprised when people ask about this.

Hillary is Sec of State during Bengazhi incident. Has years of investigations, hearings etc.

Hillary uses private email server for emails during stint as Sec of State. Gets questioned about this. Not surprised.

Ok Cam, where's the bias? Toward parties or toward people that do/say crazy things?
 

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There is, but it's generally directed toward people that ask for it. Trump says all Mexicans are murderers and rapists, surprised that the media asks him questions about this.

Ben Carson says he believes the ancient pyramids are really granaries built by aliens, surprised when people ask about this.

Hillary is Sec of State during Bengazhi incident. Has years of investigations, hearings etc.

Hillary uses private email server for emails during stint as Sec of State. Gets questioned about this. Not surprised.

Ok Cam, where's the bias? Toward parties or toward people that do/say crazy things?
:agree:
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Not really. It's just that Republicans provide oh so juicy details. Don't wanna look like a cunt? Don't say cunty things. Or even better, don't get caught saying cunty things in private.

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That's silly bro. President is just one guy. Still it should be someone with some sort of political experience and knowledge..

In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter who it is because they're not really going to change things that much. Congress effects way more than the Pres, yet we consider Obama the antichrist. Weird.
:tup:
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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There is, but it's generally directed toward people that ask for it. Trump says all Mexicans are murderers and rapists, surprised that the media asks him questions about this.

Ben Carson says he believes the ancient pyramids are really granaries built by aliens, surprised when people ask about this.

Hillary is Sec of State during Bengazhi incident. Has years of investigations, hearings etc.

Hillary uses private email server for emails during stint as Sec of State. Gets questioned about this. Not surprised.

Ok Cam, where's the bias? Toward parties or toward people that do/say crazy things?
hillary is being investigated not because of media bias.

The irony is the media that supported her narrative initially isn't forcing her to renig on her comment like they are trying to with Carson.

You can thank judicial watch largely for what Hillary is going through.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Doesn't Bush fit into both categories?
:D Yes. And actually, he sort of fits as a Clinton as well since those families really enjoy each other, apparently.

Because lying about his past, gaffs about if jews had guns vs nazis, massacre victims should rush gunman, letting some popeyes getting robbed and supposedly attempting to murder someone, all claims he makes himself willingly, is what his campaign seem to be about? As bad and dishonest the other politicians are, they are actually that, politicians. This guy doesnt seem to even function on the basics of what a politician should operate as (shows little to no clue about geopolitical facts, neither does Trump), nor attempts to discuss said policies he wants to bring forth (when he was asked about it in last debate, he faltered and latter cried about being asked about it???) and seems to focus his campaign on cuckoo statements and being on the defensive about said cuckoo statements. If the discourse with him was him talking about actual politics (like its with Rand), then yeah that would been what to judge him on, but he seems to have so little clue in such matters that he is happily feeding this erratic persona that has him as one of the top runners for the nomination. This is what I mean with standards, you have to hold up to actually passing the basic standards even the horrible lying career politicians do, but he seems to be incapable of it.


And saying anything about Hillary doesnt matter, there is no stopping her nomination in this broken system, lack of choice AND being the prime establishment candidate means its fruitless. Focusing on who should face her should be much more prudent. And so far it all seems to be two imcompetent nutjobs and Rand Paul, really weird...
I think Carson is popular since folks are so sick of career politicians. To me, there is a double standard applied to him though. And we should destroy the establishment candidates since it can work, Jeb being the example.
 

Ocelot

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What is so great about political experience? Why do we have an obsession with career politicians?
If anything, there's an obsession over so called outsiders.

It doesn't matter how much experience one has in politics. What should matter is the competence and integrity of the person, as well as their policies. Carson & Trump have made clear that they're in now way competent, not because of their lack of political experience, but because of their outlandish statements, of which there have been much more than one in both cases.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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There is, but it's generally directed toward people that ask for it. Trump says all Mexicans are murderers and rapists, surprised that the media asks him questions about this.

Ben Carson says he believes the ancient pyramids are really granaries built by aliens, surprised when people ask about this.

Hillary is Sec of State during Bengazhi incident. Has years of investigations, hearings etc.

Hillary uses private email server for emails during stint as Sec of State. Gets questioned about this. Not surprised.

Ok Cam, where's the bias? Toward parties or toward people that do/say crazy things?
You really think anything would have came about from those hearings? She could literally blow up Martinsburg and nothing would happen.
 

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hillary is being investigated not because of media bias.

The irony is the media that supported her narrative initially isn't forcing her to renig on her comment like they are trying to with Carson.

You can thank judicial watch largely for what Hillary is going through.
There's nothing judicial about what is happening with Hillary. Which is the problem. It's just morons asking stupid questions.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I think Carson is popular since folks are so sick of career politicians. To me, there is a double standard applied to him though. And we should destroy the establishment candidates since it can work, Jeb being the example.
Understandable, but it gets pretty bad when not being a carreer politicians is your main selling point.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I think Carson is popular since folks are so sick of career politicians. To me, there is a double standard applied to him though. And we should destroy the establishment candidates since it can work, Jeb being the example.


Jeb is utterly destroyed, dude has no chance, poor guy is just the Fredo of his family who was put to the forefront without his consent most likely. Seems like in near tears in most interviews.



And stop caring about career politicians or novices, and judge politicians on what they saying or done in the past for this campaign. And truly realize not liking the other alternatives is not good enough reason to accept or popularize utterly bizzare morons like Carson. Not being a career politician is not what a campagin should be built on, certainly not for the most "powerful" position in the world.
 

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You really think anything would have came about from those hearings? She could literally blow up Martinsburg and nothing would happen.
What should come from the hearings? Bengazhi, probably not her fault. The emails, super cunty thing to do, definitely a national security issue, but not breaking the law.

I hate her so much, but really she hasn't done anything illegal. But don't let the "liberal media" know about that.
 

Hust

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What should come from the hearings? Bengazhi, probably not her fault. The emails, super cunty thing to do, definitely a national security issue, but not breaking the law.

I hate her so much, but really she hasn't done anything illegal. But don't let the "liberal media" know about that.
sending classified email over an insecure private server is breaking the law. She even signed the agreement that states specifically mishandling classified information is a crime

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If it wasn't a crime there would be no need for every federal employee to sign the same agreement that has access to classified information
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Understandable, but it gets pretty bad when not being a carreer politicians is your main selling point.
Yes, it sure is. But that's what we've got nowadays. One good candidate who doesn't stand a chance.

Jeb is utterly destroyed, dude has no chance, poor guy is just the Fredo of his family who was put to the forefront without his consent most likely. Seems like in near tears in most interviews.



And stop caring about career politicians or novices, and judge politicians on what they saying or done in the past for this campaign. And truly realize not liking the other alternatives is not good enough reason to accept or popularize utterly bizzare morons like Carson. Not being a career politician is not what a campagin should be built on, certainly not for the most "powerful" position in the world.
Don't tell me what to do. :p I have my own notions and understand what is best for myself as an individual.

What should come from the hearings? Bengazhi, probably not her fault. The emails, super $#@!y thing to do, definitely a national security issue, but not breaking the law.

I hate her so much, but really she hasn't done anything illegal. But don't let the "liberal media" know about that.
If Patraeus broke the law, then surely Hillary did as well.
 

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