'Murica! (220 Viewers)

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I don't know anything about acting, but I wouldn't call it hard labor or take a whole lot of brain power when you can retake over and over again a "take" as many times as it takes to get it right. Not many jobs afford you to keep doing something over and over again until you get it right.

Don't let the veneer and Instagram feeds fool you. Hollywood is a brutal business. Women are sold as hot until they turn 28 and develop a personality of any distinguishing thought, at which point they are cast out and either must get behind the camera or seek another profession. Guys are a commodity until they sign up for a crap film and people are ready to anoint the next box office draw. It's cutthroat.

Good acting also takes work. And doing a draw to make a movie work and sellable takes work.

Sure, I hate Instagram influencers for the negative value they add to society, but like actors they too hustle their asses off. Getting something right takes precision, and you could also argue that all Ronaldo does all day for his hundreds of millions is miss getting the goal in the net a lot.

Dude, you need to stop installing microwave ovens.

Well that was my point. I agree that the studios create jobs, but its not the actors that create the studios and all the jobs most of the time...they too, are hired by the studios which makes my point they don't offer much other than acting.

Studios front the money and take the risk, but the "talent" does the work. I think you're barking up the wrong tree on this one. If you're going to gripe about the uselessness of Hollywood actors, going after their work ethic and job creation potential isn't it.

 

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Supply and demand, they make the big bucks for these studios and get paid accordingly. Just like footballers.

I get that, but I still think that's bullshit.

I mean even meh players are earning 5mln these days from salary alone, that's 100 times more than the average wage. Or 10-20 times more than a doctor's wage which I find it outrageous. But, I guess that's another topic.

 

[Enron]

It's actually not true in any sense of the word, president as head of the federal govt directly employs about 2 million people. And is indirectly responsible for millions more(as much as i don't like it).

i see your point

government workers count? They’re there no matter the president, that’s like taking over a hundred year old Arby’s and saying “look what I made”

 

[Ronn]

Which part? Overpaid? or virtual signaling hypocrites?

I will be honest, I could care much less about what they are paid than them telling me how I'm the reason for the worlds problems because I'm not liberal.

Overpaid. Most of the CEOs are employees and they don’t risk capital so not dissimilar to Hollywood actors.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i see your point

government workers count? They’re there no matter the president, that’s like taking over a hundred year old Arby’s and saying “look what I made”

Arby's? Ew

 

[Hust]

Studios front the money and take the risk, but the "talent" does the work. I think you're barking up the wrong tree on this one. If you're going to gripe about the uselessness of Hollywood actors, going after their work ethic and job creation potential isn't it.

Like I said, its really hard to take these actors seriously telling us how to live our lives here in Ohio/VA and everything between there and their estates when they make a mountain of money making movies doing exactly the same things they tell us we can't do.

To me, that's hypocrisy, is it not? If they were true to their word, they'd stop making movies glorifying it.

 

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Don't let the veneer and Instagram feeds fool you. Hollywood is a brutal business. Women are sold as hot until they turn 28 and develop a personality of any distinguishing thought, at which point they are cast out and either must get behind the camera or seek another profession. Guys are a commodity until they sign up for a crap film and people are ready to anoint the next box office draw. It's cutthroat.

Good acting also takes work. And doing a draw to make a movie work and sellable takes work.

Sure, I hate Instagram influencers for the negative value they add to society, but like actors they too hustle their asses off. Getting something right takes precision, and you could also argue that all Ronaldo does all day for his hundreds of millions is miss getting the goal in the net a lot.

Dude, you need to stop installing microwave ovens.




Studios front the money and take the risk, but the "talent" does the work. I think you're barking up the wrong tree on this one. If you're going to gripe about the uselessness of Hollywood actors, going after their work ethic and job creation potential isn't it.

 

[Hust]

Greg, I know you're old when you're quote Dire Straits

 

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Like I said, its really hard to take these actors seriously telling us how to live our lives here in Ohio/VA and everything between there and their estates when they make a mountain of money making movies doing exactly the same things they tell us we can't do.

To me, that's hypocrisy, is it not? If they were true to their word, they'd stop making movies glorifying it.

I'm sure they realise how ridiculous it is, like these weird virtue signalling videos. I think it's a fear of getting blackballed so they do this weird shit to get ahead of it. All their PR people are white, that's probably the problem

 

[Enron]

But I think with a lot of workers, there is something that comes out of it. I guess in essence the actors pull in money that allows studios to grow/expand I guess. But Joker is right, highly overpaid and gives them the idea they can look down on everyone that isn't in that crowed IMHO.

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Good point, I didn't do a good job expanding that. You don't really hear from the camera operators, special effects people, etc, they don't have a platform like the actors do.

yeah, I go to the same bar as a lot of the crew from the series Yellowstone. you’d be surprised at the amount of people a show on a non major network employs, many of which probably share your political perspectives

sure there are a lot of waste of space liberals out there, but you could say the same if conservatives. i think it’s important not to concentrate on those people

 

[Hust]

I'm sure they realise how ridiculous it is, like these weird virtue signalling videos. I think it's a fear of getting blackballed so they do this weird shit to get ahead of it. All their PR people are white, that's probably the problem

Best way to not get blacklisted is not say anything I would think.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

yeah, I go to the same bar as a lot of the crew from the series Yellowstone. you’d be surprised at the amount of people a show on a non major network employs, many of which probably share your political perspectives

sure there are a lot of waste of space liberals out there, but you could say the same if conservatives. i think it’s important not to concentrate on those people

Only famous conservative of influence that has endured and survived so far is Clint Eastwood.

 

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Only famous conservative of influence that has endured and survived so far is Clint Eastwood.

you don’t hang around enough Utah and Wyoming born cameramen then

I see you said, famous... that’s probably true unless you want to count James woods and Scott baio

 

[GordoDeCentral]

you don’t hang around enough Utah and Wyoming born cameramen then

Of influence, i have been part of a couple of films, even met and talked to Eastwood for a a good while. You don't get actor/director roles if you don't toe the party line.

 

[Hust]

yeah, I go to the same bar as a lot of the crew from the series Yellowstone. you’d be surprised at the amount of people a show on a non major network employs, many of which probably share your political perspectives

sure there are a lot of waste of space liberals out there, but you could say the same if conservatives. i think it’s important not to concentrate on those people

Tell that to the people targeting me for being conservative

When one side concentrates on the other's extreme so then does the other side and so goes up the polarization. I'm tired of having to defend myself (generally speaking to the left, no one here specifically). I am what I am but I choose to keep a low profile and live my life, I don't really try to tell liberals how to live their lives but I do see how the left sees the Bible thumpers pushing their agenda on everyone, it works both ways I get that. I'm not as conservative as many think I might be, I have my religion but I don't force it on people, I married an Arab Muslim, etc but I don't use religion as a reason to push shit on people like "conservatives" in the news media might like to.

For me, let me live my life. Stay out of my way, and I will gladly stay out of yours.

 

[Mr Chocolate]

Are u guys telling me this inspirational video by the celebs didn't make you feel better about the Corona Virus.

 

[Hust]

you don’t hang around enough Utah and Wyoming born cameramen then

I see you said, famous... that’s probably true unless you want to count James woods and Scott baio

Love James Woods, I have 3 accounts I follow on Twitter: Woods, Physics & Astronomy, and Trump (cuz I have to, sorta, for work). And I don't have twitter FYI.

 

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Like I said, its really hard to take these actors seriously telling us how to live our lives here in Ohio/VA and everything between there and their estates when they make a mountain of money making movies doing exactly the same things they tell us we can't do.

To me, that's hypocrisy, is it not? If they were true to their word, they'd stop making movies glorifying it.

Well, this gets to the concept of just dribble the damn ball. They definitely have little relevance to our own lives. And most are paid to entertain us, not to preach to us. But at the same time, even if nobody voted for them, they carry social weight with their voices by the fact that so many followers who fund their careers essentially give them voices. The smart ones know when to shut up. But there are a few smart ones who know that they have a unique opportunity to send messages with reach to actually wield that power for some social good.

That said, I am irritated by Bill Gates. No, I don't think he's trying to put microchips in my blood. But I do feel like here's this guy who didn't pay his fair share of taxes and is now using his Scrooge McDuck billions to tell others how to live their lives while nobody voted for him. Yes, you can say his gestures are philanthropic and for the betterment of mankind and he could have a lot worse causes with his billions to pursue.

But in my mind those billions are ill-gotten gains and that he's also subtly using philanthropy to keep the oligarch system in place rather than fix it. This is what Anand Giridharadas gets at with Winners Take All. And Anand is a bit of an irritant, but I mostly agree with his assessment. Bill Gates is no better than Pablo Escobar handing out Christmas pigs to the poor people in his hometown.

Greg, I know you're old when you're quote Dire Straits

Yeah, I am that old. But if you have a more recent song that hits the topic that way, please do share.

 

[Salvo]

Only famous conservative of influence that has endured and survived so far is Clint Eastwood.

Arnie?

 

[Enron]

Love James Woods, I have 3 accounts I follow on Twitter: Woods, Physics & Astronomy, and Trump (cuz I have to, sorta, for work). And I don't have twitter FYI.

Lol James Woods? He’s the worst