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[ALC]

But one created jobs, a lot of them. Hollywood hasn't done shit. I get your hate for Trump, but I think that's a poor excuse because your claim of having a silver spoon falls just as easily on Hollywood and people in Congress.

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Example: Look at where the kids of people in Congress go to schools, etc. Many of people in Congress now came from the same kind of upbringing their kids are going through. I don't know anything about acting, but I wouldn't call it hard labor or take a whole lot of brain power when you can retake over and over again a "take" as many times as it takes to get it right. Not many jobs afford you to keep doing something over and over again until you get it right.

doesn’t Hollywood create jobs by hiring extras, crews, etc etc etc? If one of these privileged Hollywood stars wants to make a movie, they will hire hundreds of people to make it.

 

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[Enron]

I'm checking everywhere and almost no one is talking about it, is this banana republic level action the new norm? An actual US president sanctioning, and probably will detain or arrest International Criminal Court personnel or judges, for wait for it....investigating war crimes? It's been going on for years, the threats, but he's actually doing it? Is there no limit to this brazen insanity?

the covid rallies and police riots are definitely a perfect cover for conservatives to move along the more harsh aspects of their agenda. Look at some of the recent primaries, Georgia was cluster fuck and no one really cares

 

[Hust]

doesn’t Hollywood create jobs by hiring extras, crews, etc etc etc? If one of these privileged Hollywood stars wants to make a movie, they will hire hundreds of people to make it.

True - but that's the studios, not the actors necessarily. I see your point, and its a good one, but I will give that credit to the studios.

In my mind, you can't threaten politicians with violence to push anti-gun propaganda (or any agenda), then go make millions or support actors making millions that agree with them, from movies with extreme bloodshed from guns. They tell us on the conservative side of the fence that we are the enemy then go make millions using tools they want to take away from us. I'm not OK with that. I could go on, but I think we sorta agree in premise, both sides sorta take the blame on this I will agree but in my mind I see the larger hypocrisy from people like those in Hollywood

 

[Enron]

doesn’t Hollywood create jobs by hiring extras, crews, etc etc etc? If one of these privileged Hollywood stars wants to make a movie, they will hire hundreds of people to make it.

Hollywood is actually a major job creator, where the President, outside of his cabinet, aids, and campaign staff doesn’t actually participate in the direct creation of jobs

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Hollywood is actually a major job creator, where the President, outside of his cabinet, aids, and campaign staff doesn’t actually participate in the direct creation of jobs

This is one of the funniest posts I've read in this thread.

 

[Salvo]

But one created jobs, a lot of them. Hollywood hasn't done shit. I get your hate for Trump, but I think that's a poor excuse because your claim of having a silver spoon falls just as easily on Hollywood and people in Congress.

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Example: Look at where the kids of people in Congress go to schools, etc(agree about the trumps in this specific case, his kids are set for life, obviously). Many of people in Congress now came from the same kind of upbringing their kids are going through. I don't know anything about acting, but I wouldn't call it hard labor or take a whole lot of brain power when you can retake over and over again a "take" as many times as it takes to get it right. Not many jobs afford you to keep doing something over and over again until you get it right.

The craft itself is really difficult, it's something you have and then you have to keep working at it and working at it if you want to be a great actor. Sure you get takes and takes in a film but not in a theatre. Also the notion of trying to be true with a camera in your face is incredibly difficult. They are incredibly privileged now of course but the actual craft is not at all easy. The case for what do they actually do to help people or contribute can be said for any sports person, artist, musician as well. They create art that brings something to people's lives whether it's joy, deep thought, history, social discourse brought to fore and the list goes on. The angle of that social discourse depends on the platform and those who are contributing. There is a reason that theatre has been a cornerstone for every major civilisation up until now. It is more diluted now with the sheer demand for content though so in turn more shit gets churned out.

It's actually really hard to be rejected more times than you are accepted for a role. Truth is really hard to manufacture thats why it's so powerful and beautiful when actors actually do achieve it and why it's so rightfully celebrated. It might sound a bit pretentious but that is my experience with it. Movies are a directors platform, a producers platform theatre is an actors true platform however

 

[j0ker]

doesn’t Hollywood create jobs by hiring extras, crews, etc etc etc? If one of these privileged Hollywood stars wants to make a movie, they will hire hundreds of people to make it.

Yeah, Avengers: Infinity Wars had over 4000 or Iron Man 3 with 3310 crew members.

The average is around 500 but still a lot for a single movie.

 

[Hust]

The craft itself is really difficult, it's something you have and then you have to keep working at it and working at it if you want to be a great actor. Sure you get takes and takes in a film but not in a theatre. Also the notion of trying to be true with a camera in your face is incredibly difficult. They are incredibly privileged now of course but the actual craft is not at all easy. The case for what do they actually do to help people or contribute can be said for any sports person, artist, musician as well. They create art that brings something to people's lives whether it's joy, deep thought, history, social discourse brought to fore and the list goes on. The angle of that social discourse depends on the platform and those who are contributing. There is a reason that theatre has been a cornerstone for every major civilisation up until now. It is more diluted now with the sheer demand for content though so in turn more shit gets churned out.

It's actually really hard to be rejected more times than you are accepted for a role. Truth is really hard to manufacture thats why it's so powerful and beautiful when actors actually do achieve it and why it's so rightfully celebrated. It might sound a bit pretentious but that is my experience with it. Movies are a directors platform, a producers platform theatre is an actors true platform however

Well said

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Yeah, Avengers: Infinity Wars had over 4000 or Iron Man 3 with 3310 crew members.

The average is around 500 but still a lot for a single movie.

But those aren't the actors hiring them its the studios, etc, no?

 

[Salvo]

Well said

This is not to take away the point that they are incredibly privileged the big Hollywood actors that is, especially the ones that have already come from money.

 

[Hust]

This is not to take away the point that they are incredibly privileged the big Hollywood actors that is, especially the ones that have already come from money.

Well that was my point. I agree that the studios create jobs, but its not the actors that create the studios and all the jobs most of the time...they too, are hired by the studios which makes my point they don't offer much other than acting.

 

[Enron]

This is one of the funniest posts I've read in this thread.

Its true though, economy is more than a person

 

[j0ker]

Well said

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But those aren't the actors hiring them its the studios, etc, no?

True, but without them there would be no studios.

I still think they are overpaid as are footballers or almost everyone in entertainment business.

 

[Salvo]

Well that was my point. I agree that the studios create jobs, but its not the actors that create the studios and all the jobs most of the time...they too, are hired by the studios which makes my point they don't offer much other than acting.

But I think that argument can be made for any job really, well most, workers aren't creating jobs for the most part they are just working. Just like the actors.

They need to stop with these compilations though, between this sorry video and them singing imagine all the people while "locked up" in their million dollar mansions during quarantine was vomit inducing

 

[Hust]

True, but without them there would be no studios.

I still think they are overpaid as are footballers or almost everyone in entertainment business.

 

[Salvo]

True, but without them there would be no studios.

I still think they are overpaid as are footballers or almost everyone in entertainment business.

Supply and demand, they make the big bucks for these studios and get paid accordingly. Just like footballers.

 

[Enron]

Well that was my point. I agree that the studios create jobs, but its not the actors that create the studios and all the jobs most of the time...they too, are hired by the studios which makes my point they don't offer much other than acting.

You did say “Hollywood”, which makes it seem like you’re referring to an industry

 

[Hust]

But I think that argument can be made for any job really, well most, workers aren't creating jobs for the most part they are just working. Just like the actors.

They need to stop with these compilations though, between this sorry video and them singing imagine all the people while "locked up" in their million dollar mansions during quarantine was vomit inducing

But I think with a lot of workers, there is something that comes out of it. I guess in essence the actors pull in money that allows studios to grow/expand I guess. But Joker is right, highly overpaid and gives them the idea they can look down on everyone that isn't in that crowed IMHO.

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You did say “Hollywood”, which makes it seem like you’re referring to an industry

Good point, I didn't do a good job expanding that. You don't really hear from the camera operators, special effects people, etc, they don't have a platform like the actors do.

 

[Ronn]

But I think with a lot of workers, there is something that comes out of it. I guess in essence the actors pull in money that allows studios to grow/expand I guess. But Joker is right, highly overpaid and gives them the idea they can look down on everyone that isn't in that crowed IMHO.

Would you say the same about CEOs?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Its true though, economy is more than a person

It's actually not true in any sense of the word, president as head of the federal govt directly employs about 2 million people. And is indirectly responsible for millions more(as much as i don't like it).

 

[Hust]

Would you say the same about CEOs?

Which part? Overpaid? or virtual signaling hypocrites?

I will be honest, I could care much less about what they are paid than them telling me how I'm the reason for the worlds problems because I'm not liberal.