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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Ali was a spectacle. In the best way. He's also a key figure in the US civil rights movements of the 60s for different reasons than most.

But that last bit about the guy losing his job is weird. There's likely more to the story, but we need to ask questions like this and this information is important and needs to be shared. Political organizers should know when they are potentially harming their own cause.



Conservatives are supposed to fear masks, so no wonder why they have hang-ups about superheroes.

Though to Megan's defense, I feel offended when the Dutch celebrate Christmas with Black Pete. I mean... why not White Pete?



I think this is the most undercovered story of the Trump presidency. All his violations of ethics, nepotism laws, business conflicts of interest, elimination of watchdogs... The US is fast becoming that and the basic operation of governance is corroding from within and turning into a banana republic. Saudi Arabia will soon get to call out the US on abuses at this rate.



I kind of have to agree with this. Blacks in Alabama getting firehosed by the cops in the 60s played to MLK's strategy of making oppression visible and allowing others to choose to be on the right side of it or not. Today's media environment immediately picks sides before the subject matter even exists, thus really eliminating a lot of the opportunities for meaningful self-reflection and sympathetic understanding.



It does! I'd see that...



I have a different take on this. If there's no limit to the line, that should be the strategy. Because you start with Washington owning slaves, the next thing you're doing is tearing down statues and street signs for MLK because of his adultery.

It's called greasing the slippery slope.



You sense of good taste should be outraged.



A budding Amy Cooper in our midst.
When did you ever find a progressive/communist/anarchist to be concerned with being consistent, it's all about "triggers"
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Thanks to the American education system, they don't even know who he is.
Dude, I have pictures of me kissing that Lenin statue in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle from 1995. (It's still in Fremont, but they moved it to its newer location since then.)

But yeah, probably most Americans think of him as that guy who wrote that song that Wonder Woman butchered during COVID lockdowns.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Spoken in only a way Chapelle can deliver. He is dead right about celebrities. The world doesn't give a shit about what celebrities think or have to say, the streets are speaking for themselves.

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Thanks to the American education system, they don't even know who he is.
And who runs nearly ALL of the America education system from k-12 through college?
 
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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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This is exactly whats wrong with social medka, every batshit maniac has a platform, and they gey a sense of self importance to do it because ppl share anything to make it "viral". Honestly what was the point of sharing this? A crazy fully retarded bitch just screaming?
**screaming**

Random cop: " Have a good day Jamie" :lol:
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I think this is the most undercovered story of the Trump presidency. All his violations of ethics, nepotism laws, business conflicts of interest, elimination of watchdogs... The US is fast becoming that and the basic operation of governance is corroding from within and turning into a banana republic. Saudi Arabia will soon get to call out the US on abuses at this rate.

I'm checking everywhere and almost no one is talking about it, is this banana republic level action the new norm? An actual US president sanctioning, and probably will detain or arrest International Criminal Court personnel or judges, for wait for it....investigating war crimes? It's been going on for years, the threats, but he's actually doing it? Is there no limit to this brazen insanity?
 
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Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
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Trouble brewing in the Autonomous Zone...

:seven: :lol:

We had similar shit here, after massive protest and burning buildings, everyone agreed that people should hold an assembly and put out demands to government so everyone can be more involved into politics and in that way stop corruption etc.

That worked for maybe one or two weeks, after that everyone lost interest and government proceeded with their usual activity.

America is of course 200 times bigger and likes to exaggerate everything. And what are we seeing now is reaching new heights on both ends. Racism is pretty much real and exist in one way or another. The polarization is the biggest problem, even here you can clearly see who is on which side, while the solution is in discourse and middle ground.

This problem won't go away in years and that's why everyone should stop throwing stupid solutions just to appease everyone and start working on real ones.
Media and laziness play a big part, for example the phrase "defund the police" doesn't mean abolish the police as many portrays or it shouldn't mean. It means to allocate the funds in a more appropriate way, stop militarization and invest in training of the officers. But hey, that doesn't sell headlines and it's not sensational enough to hype the crowd who are already to lazy to read anything more than hashtags or few sentences.
 
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Spoken in only a way Chapelle can deliver. He is dead right about celebrities. The would doesn't give a shit about what celebrities think or have to say, the streets are speaking for themselves.

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And who runs nearly ALL of the America education system from k-12 through college?
who ?


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When I see this, I still ask if it's a fake or real ?

 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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This is exactly whats wrong with social media, every batshit maniac has a platform, and they gey a sense of self importance to do it because ppl share anything to make it "viral". Honestly what was the point of sharing this? A crazy fully retarded bitch just screaming?
I am totally with you, Osman. Social media just seems like a stream to bait and trigger people now. I won't even watching another brutal lynching of a black man in George Floyd, and I'm not taking the bait for whining partisans pushing public buttons on the aftermath.

I'm checking everywhere and almost no one is talking about it, is this banana republic level action the new norm? An actual US president sanctioning, and probably will detain or arrest International Criminal Court personnel or judges, for wait for it....investigating war crimes? It's been going on for years, the threats, but he's actually doing it? Is there no limit to this brazen insanity?
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/07/02/trump-corruption-ransacking-republic/

Former Director of the Office of Government Ethics Walter Shaub:

"Before Trump, our nation was admired for its anticorruption mechanisms, and its ethics program was considered the gold standard. No more. Once a model for other nations, we are now an object lesson for them."

Trump is ensuring that he is accountable to no one and that his cronies are likewise shielded from oversight. And all this stuff is becoming normalized.

For example, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner exist as they do because, “Trump’s Justice Department reversed a half-century of interpretation of the antinepotism law.”

But attention is now elsewhere.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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When we speak of privilege, is there are more privileged group of people than those in Hollywood (all races)? I mean, people in very low income levels (all income levels) pay in some cases 60 bucks to take their families to see shitty movies they star in. They literally do nothing to contribute anything impactful for other people in their professions and here they lecture the average people about privilege? Is there a stronger case of hypocrisy available? Private drivers, huge estates, circumvent CA water laws for lavish gardens, private yachts, private jets, armed security, 12 bedroom homes, expensive cars, expensive vacations, always a focal point everywhere they go...is there really a more privileged group of assholes? I don't see them giving ANY of that up for the little people yet they talk down to the same little people that pay for their glamorous lifestyles...

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I'd like to add Congress to the list too.
 
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ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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When we speak of privilege, is there are more privileged group of people than those in Hollywood (all races)? I mean, people in very low income levels (all income levels) pay in some cases 60 bucks to take their families to see shitty movies they star in. They literally do nothing to contribute anything impactful for other people in their professions and here they lecture the average people about privilege? Is there a stronger case of hypocrisy available? Private drivers, huge estates, circumvent CA water laws for lavish gardens, private yachts, private jets, armed security, 12 bedroom homes, expensive cars, expensive vacations, always a focal point everywhere they go...is there really a more privileged group of assholes? I don't see them giving ANY of that up for the little people yet they talk down to the same little people that pay for their glamorous lifestyles...

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I'd like to add Congress to the list too.
id say people like the trumps, tucker Carlson etc who were born with a silver spoon and have the balls to criticize others for being lazy, etc.

at least a lot of these actors had jobs like waiters while they were going through school. Their success is correlated to their ability to act and work hard.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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id say people like the trumps, tucker Carlson etc who were born with a silver spoon and have the balls to criticize others for being lazy, etc.

at least a lot of these actors had jobs like waiters while they were going through school. Their success is correlated to their ability to act and work hard.
But one created jobs, a lot of them. Hollywood hasn't done shit. I get your hate for Trump, but I think that's a poor excuse because your claim of having a silver spoon falls just as easily on Hollywood and people in Congress.

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Example: Look at where the kids of people in Congress go to schools, etc(agree about the trumps in this specific case, his kids are set for life, obviously). Many of people in Congress now came from the same kind of upbringing their kids are going through. I don't know anything about acting, but I wouldn't call it hard labor or take a whole lot of brain power when you can retake over and over again a "take" as many times as it takes to get it right. Not many jobs afford you to keep doing something over and over again until you get it right.
 

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