'Murica! (146 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

Churchill is fucking Churchill. He was horrible for a lot of people in a lot of ways. But he was also an incredibly intelligent man who most certainly had qualities we should aspire to.

It comes down to managing expectations I guess. I think that Obama is fundamentally a good man for example. I know he's done a lot of good things too. Hell, even the mere fact he was a non-white president was probably helpful.

But no one becomes president of the US without being tough as nails. I'm sure that Obama too got rid of several adversaries in less than pretty ways. I don't think that necessarily means he's a disgusting human being. It's just the way it works unfortunately. And even if you're a politician who just wants to get things done, you have to play the game.

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[Hust]

lol wait till you see his tweets this morning on AG.

 

[Maddy]

Another one

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/lon...mmunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html

 

[Seven]

Another one

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/24/lon...mmunity-in-cohen-probe-dj-citing-sources.html

This one looks even worse for Trump. Prosecutors don't grant immunity for no reason. That means he is giving them something 'YUGE'.

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[AFL_ITALIA]

I hope trump is impeached but not sent to prison.

He is going to be the most entertaining ex president ever. All bitter, shaking his fist at the country. Releasing classified shit, dirt on other politicians, countries etc.

It's going to be extremely problematic though, because there's still going to be a very loyal following that will react to what he says.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It's going to be extremely problematic though, because there's still going to be a very loyal following that will react to what he says.

Oh absolutely. Shits gonna be crazy.

 

[kappa96]

Trump very concerned about white farmers in South Africa.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.za/20...-of-white-people-at-least-for-now_a_23456601/

They should be if this guy takes over the rains

 

[Ronn]

It's going to be extremely problematic though, because there's still going to be a very loyal following that will react to what he says.

There'll be someone crazier than Trump that will call him a RINO, will take it up a notch saying shit like ALL of the immigrants are criminals, and we should ban contraceptives and gay sex. Trump will be irrelevant, and they'll love the other guy instead.

 

[X Æ A-12]

There'll be someone crazier than Trump that will call him a RINO, will take it up a notch saying shit like ALL of the immigrants are criminals, and we should ban contraceptives and gay sex. Trump will be irrelevant, and they'll love the other guy instead.

Interesting cause i imagine that trump has done a significant amount of damage to the republican party. Fracturing it into people who want to reign things back in, have more broad appeal to the middle etc and the trump cult who will backlash against it.

Same thing has potential to happen to democrats if they get caught cheating another popular figure like bernie out of a fair chance to compete against a party favored candidate.

Probably going to be a rough road through uncharted territory but hopefully the positive that can come out of this would be a fracturing of both parties into smaller ones and we can leave behind the choosing between the lesser of two evils bullshit.

 

[Ronn]

Interesting cause i imagine that trump has done a significant amount of damage to the republican party. Fracturing it into people who want to reign things back in, have more broad appeal to the middle etc and the trump cult who will backlash against it.

Same thing has potential to happen to democrats if they get caught cheating another popular figure like bernie out of a fair chance to compete against a party favored candidate.

Probably going to be a rough road through uncharted territory but hopefully the positive that can come out of this would be a fracturing of both parties into smaller ones and we can leave behind the choosing between the lesser of two evils bullshit.

Yes Republicans wanted to get a broader appeal among non-whites and immigrants after 2008 at least on paper. They even elected a black dude as RNC chairman. But those plans always are shelved because that's not what their base want. RNC has little control over their primaries anyway. Republican leaders are not their elected officials. They are Sean Hannitys or Rush Limbaughs of the world.
And Dems definitely has a similar problem. Dem donors don't want to hear much about income inequality, or minimum wage increase or universal healthcare; but that's what Dem candidates are running on these days at least in big states.

 

[Enron]

So Trump met with the Qanon people today.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Pretty sure he met with Alex Jones on the campaign trail so

 

[Ronn]

Man loses in a Madden tournament, opens fire and kills a few people and himself. Just another day in 'Murica.

 

[icemaη]

Man loses in a Madden tournament, opens fire and kills a few people and himself. Just another day in 'Murica.

Jesus

 

[Elvin]

I just love that a Head of State can be fired. Must be great living in a democracy

 

[Klovn]

Man loses in a Madden tournament, opens fire and kills a few people and himself. Just another day in 'Murica.

Nuke the place already, third world people

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Man loses in a Madden tournament, opens fire and kills a few people and himself. Just another day in 'Murica.

The ultimate rage quit.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Man loses in a Madden tournament, opens fire and kills a few people and himself. Just another day in 'Murica.

Clearly he's never played fifa

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

U.S., Mexico reach NAFTA deal as pressure turns to Canada

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States and Mexico agreed on Monday to overhaul the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), putting pressure on Canada to agree to the new terms on auto trade and other issues to remain part of the three-nation pact.

U.S. President Donald Trump and outgoing Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto said talks with Canada would begin immediately, though Trump threatened he could put tariffs on Canadian-made cars if a three-way deal could not be reached.

“I think with Canada, frankly, the easiest we can do is to tariff their cars coming in. It’s a tremendous amount of money and it’s a very simple negotiation. It could end in one day and we take in a lot of money the following day,” Trump said.

Negotiations between the three trade partners have dragged on for more than a year and repeated threats by Trump that he would ditch the 1994 accord have roiled financial markets, putting pressure on the Mexican peso and the Canadian dollar.

Officials said they hope Canada will agree to the terms by Friday, when the White House plans to formally notify Congress that Trump will sign the deal in 90 days. Congress has to approve it.

“There are still issues with Canada but I think they could be resolved very quickly,” a senior trade official told Reuters in an interview.

If talks with Canada are not wrapped up by the end of this week, Trump plans to notify Congress that he has reached a deal with Mexico, but would be open to negotiations with Canada to join the pact, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer told reporters on Monday.

Some Republicans in the U.S. Congress called the deal a positive step but said Canada must be part of the new pact to avoid hurting U.S. jobs.

“Millions of jobs in Texas depend on an updated NAFTA, and it’s important that we get this right,” said Senator John Cornyn, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate.

Republican lawmaker Kevin Brady, chairman of the tax and trade-focused Ways and Means Committee, called on Canada to return to talks quickly “with the aim of concluding a modern, seamless three-way agreement.”

Canada plans to continue to negotiate, but would only sign a new agreement that is good for the country, a spokesman for Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said. Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau soon.

NEW AUTO RULES
The United States, Mexico and Canada do more than 1 trillion dollars in trade between them every year. The announcement of a U.S.-Mexico agreement lifted financial markets.

Trudeau spoke to Pena Nieto on Sunday and shared their commitment to reaching a successful conclusion of NAFTA “for all three parties” the prime minister’s office said.

The Trump administration said the deal improves labor provisions. The Mexico-U.S. discussions focused on crafting new rules for the automotive industry, which Trump has put at the heart of his drive to rework the pact he has repeatedly described as a “disaster” for American workers.

Matt Blunt, president of the American Automotive Policy Council, which represents General Motors Co (GM.N), Ford Motor Co (F.N) and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV (FCHA.MI), said the group was optimistic about the new deal, though it was still reviewing the details.

The deal would require 75 percent of auto content to be made in the NAFTA region, up from the current level of 62.5 percent, a U.S. trade official said. A fact sheet describing the bilateral agreement specified the content would be made in the United States and Mexico.

The deal also would require 40 percent to 45 percent of auto content to be made by workers earning at least $16 per hour.

The United States and Mexico also agreed to a 16-year lifespan for the North American Free Trade agreement, with a review every six years that can extend the pact for 16 years, U.S. Trade Representative Lighthizer said.

The plan would not contain an automatic expiration for NAFTA as proposed in the prior U.S. demand for a “sunset clause.” Mexico also agreed to eliminate dispute settlement panels for certain anti-dumping cases, a move that could complicate talks with Canada.

U.S., Mexican and Canadian stocks opened higher on Monday on optimism about a trade deal.

Mexican stocks .MXX jumped 1.4 percent to a seven-month high, while the peso MXN= firmed about 1.3 percent against the dollar, heading for its best one-day gain in more than a month.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...but-item-still-pending-minister-idUSKCN1LC1E7

 

[ALC]

Our dear president wants to address the fact that when you google his name, fake news come up.