It isn't covered when you conspire with your attorney in the US imo.
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I don't think there is evidence of him colluding with Russia. At this point the Mueller net has been thrown as far as he can throw it to pull in as many people as he can around the Trump campaign as he can. In that net (when I say "net" it a term used as "fishing expedition" where you throw the net out and capture as many fish as you can hence Mueller throwing the "net"...its a figure of speech FYI)...so in that net, Mueller found Manafort creating shady deals on his own long before he joined the Trump campaign so it really wouldn't benefit him at all in his investigation...so he handed it off to someone else since his crimes were significant enough. Cohen though, he was probably the first person Mueller wanted to look into since he was his personal lawyer so if anyone had any evidence it would be him with taped calls, paper trail, etc...so, while looking into Cohen the Mueller team found more financial crimes on his own unrelated to Trump...but...they are going to try to tie Cohen to Trump asking for women to be paid off to keep silent and through those payments they are going to try and prove those payments came out of Trump's campaign finances (i.e. people donate to the Trump campaign for his run for POTUS and then Trump authorizing through a third party using that money to pay off women)...illegal, yes, but mind you Obama was fined through the FEC quite a bit of money (largest fine in FEC history...FEC = Federal Election Commission) and John Edwards back in the day was fined too I think for the same thing trying to pay off his mistress...not 100% on that one though.
Cohen could be bluffing to get a smaller sentence or he might actually have something so either way, he caved to get a smaller sentence so if he doesn't have anything at all it might come back to bit him...but if he does, then it will haunt Trump. If all they have against Trump is a campaign finance violation he won't get impeached. If in fact there are ties to a foreign government, then, well c-ya later he will likely get impeached IF Democrats win the house back...then again, could end up like Clinton where only the House filed articles of impeachment but the Senate denied. Dems would need to win both houses.
If Mueller subpoenas Trump...the Trump legal team will fight it all the way to the Supreme court and would likely vote in favor of Trump. If Mueller completes his investigation and asks Congress to move forward with charges the Dem's would need to win both Houses back in November during the midterms.
Cohen could be bluffing to get a smaller sentence or he might actually have something so either way, he caved to get a smaller sentence so if he doesn't have anything at all it might come back to bit him...but if he does, then it will haunt Trump. If all they have against Trump is a campaign finance violation he won't get impeached. If in fact there are ties to a foreign government, then, well c-ya later he will likely get impeached IF Democrats win the house back...then again, could end up like Clinton where only the House filed articles of impeachment but the Senate denied. Dems would need to win both houses.
If Mueller subpoenas Trump...the Trump legal team will fight it all the way to the Supreme court and would likely vote in favor of Trump. If Mueller completes his investigation and asks Congress to move forward with charges the Dem's would need to win both Houses back in November during the midterms.
I like that Republicans don't even care that he fucked a porn star and then paid her hush money.
Why the fuck would you want this guy as your president?
His downfall is going to be inevitable. But man, did he do damage to America's image. On the plus side he did expose all the toxicity in the political system, even if he did it in pretty much the opposite way he wanted to.
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Why the fuck would you want this guy as your president?
His downfall is going to be inevitable. But man, did he do damage to America's image. On the plus side he did expose all the toxicity in the political system, even if he did it in pretty much the opposite way he wanted to.
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@Hustini Trump colluded with Russia and it is a "public secret" its just a matter of time before they find evidence. This administration is a joke, its like a party of clowns.
Anyways, im sure there isnt a single person here who havent watched this Trump piece, but im gonna post it nonetheless.
Also, i really enjoyed this new "Trade" piece that came out on Monday which shows the negative effect of all those taxes on foreign products and all those tarrifs he is placing.
Anyways, im sure there isnt a single person here who havent watched this Trump piece, but im gonna post it nonetheless.
Also, i really enjoyed this new "Trade" piece that came out on Monday which shows the negative effect of all those taxes on foreign products and all those tarrifs he is placing.
It has been two years, the Department of Justice and a team of ridiculous power lawyers/agents...if they haven't found anything yet I doubt they will. Unless they already have the evidence in hand and simply building a stronger case, perhaps. But if they don't have it yet its likely it doesn't exist IMO.
Time will tell, rumors are Mueller is winding down his investigation to a close. If politics is to be a guide of when that happens, it will be right before the midterms.
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Yeah - bizarre decision that. I mean, unlucky he got caught up in the investigation of Trump and that being the only reason he got caught committing crimes but the guy broke the law...a lot and often years ago so he should definitely pay for his crime.
Time will tell, rumors are Mueller is winding down his investigation to a close. If politics is to be a guide of when that happens, it will be right before the midterms.
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Yeah - bizarre decision that. I mean, unlucky he got caught up in the investigation of Trump and that being the only reason he got caught committing crimes but the guy broke the law...a lot and often years ago so he should definitely pay for his crime.
It's not bizarre in my opinion. Manafort was on that Trump Tower meeting and probably has useful information regarding Russia, which could land Trump in deep trouble. It's not random that Trump calls him a good guy, as he's anything but. This is basically telling Manafort that "if you cooperate you get a lenient sentence, but if you don't you get no jail time at all, so think about your options carefully". Also Cohen was charged for a state crime so Trump cannot offer the same to him anyway.
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GOP having no problem with possible Manafort pardon, while calling for Hillary's head is disturbing. I know most politicians have no ethical standards but this is very similar to Mafia dealings.
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GOP having no problem with possible Manafort pardon, while calling for Hillary's head is disturbing. I know most politicians have no ethical standards but this is very similar to Mafia dealings.
at bolding the part you liked. There are limits ad extents to being unethical. Do you see Bernie pardoning a convicted fraudster with deep ties to your country's #1 enemy? Do you even see Paul Ryan doing that? Do you see George Bush doing that?
I strongly agreed with that portion which is why I bolded it. You aren't the only person on here that does that for whatever reason. If I disagreed with anything else you wrote I would have argued it.
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And because I bolded it doesn't mean I like it. I find politicians disgusting.
Sorry.
Most politicians*
I would have thought that was implied since I bolded his comment where he said most politicians. I don't like politics. You can't do everything every voter wants you to do yet you say what you need to say essentially to get you elected then off you go. It's a power game IMO. Term limits should be a focus point in our system.
Most politicians*
I would have thought that was implied since I bolded his comment where he said most politicians. I don't like politics. You can't do everything every voter wants you to do yet you say what you need to say essentially to get you elected then off you go. It's a power game IMO. Term limits should be a focus point in our system.
It’s not that they’re for or against it. They’ve put themselves in a very dangerous position politically. They had a chance to not back Trump during the election and after but went all in. Now, doing the right thing means admitting they put the country in a very dangerous place and could be disastrous for the Republican Party.
Not to mention that the most powerful members are the ones who back Trump the most. And considering the investigation is led by 13 reputable republicans, it could mean the end of careers for Mitch McConnel et al.
Not to mention that the most powerful members are the ones who back Trump the most. And considering the investigation is led by 13 reputable republicans, it could mean the end of careers for Mitch McConnel et al.
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Were you insinuating that I was ignoring the other possibilities? (i.e. do you see Bernie pardoning a convicted fraudster with deep ties to your country's #1 enemy? Do you even see Paul Ryan doing that? Do you see George Bush doing that?)
Your post seemed to indicate that by agreeing with the bolded I seemed to ignore the rest.
And yes, most politicians are pretty damn unethical.