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Identity politics is such a mess. America haven’t had the class conflict like we saw in Europe, but a revolt based on identity is only making it worse. It’s what Trump, and others on the far right wing, are doing too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/...l?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/...l?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share
So Trump boasts about economy everywhere he goes, but in a letter to Ryan he cites "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare" as a reason to freeze the salary of federal workers.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...er-house-representatives-president-senate-32/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...er-house-representatives-president-senate-32/
Lately I've been thinking about Andy Kaufman.
No, hear me out.
As a comedian, he was famous for basically taking the piss out of everybody -- performance-art style. He'd introduce duplicitous characters played by himself and have them get their own contracts... then burn the place down and get fired on the set. He'd pretend to be a wrestler or stage his own heart-attack. He'd get into brawls with fellow actors like Michael Richards for supposedly forgetting or refusing to do his lines.
Basically, you never knew whether what he was doing was real or fake or a stunt... even down to his own death.
Basically, Trump is the Andy Kaufman president.
No, hear me out.
As a comedian, he was famous for basically taking the piss out of everybody -- performance-art style. He'd introduce duplicitous characters played by himself and have them get their own contracts... then burn the place down and get fired on the set. He'd pretend to be a wrestler or stage his own heart-attack. He'd get into brawls with fellow actors like Michael Richards for supposedly forgetting or refusing to do his lines.
Basically, you never knew whether what he was doing was real or fake or a stunt... even down to his own death.
Basically, Trump is the Andy Kaufman president.
Oh he gave $4.7B to the farmers who are affected by his trade war. Also he's about to open Canada dairy market to upstate NY dairy farmers. Don't forget that military is exempt from his requested salary freeze (congress will probably ultimately give a raise to every federal worker anyway). There's no denying that tax cuts has moved the economy; although the long term effect of debt-fueled growth remains unknown.
It's not hard to understand his appeal. I gotta give it to him, he understands "the economy, stupid" very well. Something that Dems are missing at the moment.
It's not hard to understand his appeal. I gotta give it to him, he understands "the economy, stupid" very well. Something that Dems are missing at the moment.
Yeah, a version of Andy Kaufman without the performance art part. I did read an interesting article where they said this is what Kanye was doing by supporting Trunp. But Trunp himself? No way this is similar to Kaufman, this is similar to a dictator.
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I disagree, he’s only helping the company owners, not the people. Half of the population stil can’t make ends meet whereas the top is getting way richer than they were. He doesn’t understand the economy in a large scale, he understands how to get richer and help his friends.
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I disagree, he’s only helping the company owners, not the people. Half of the population stil can’t make ends meet whereas the top is getting way richer than they were. He doesn’t understand the economy in a large scale, he understands how to get richer and help his friends.
This is how Trump sees the economy though. And it's sort of understandable. All his life he's been rich (though not because of his own doing). I don't think he can even imagine what it's like for regular people.
Personally I'm not against people at the top making a lot of money. You have to incentivize people to want to make the effort to get to the top. It's part of what keeps people striving to do better in life. But at same time you also have to try and make lives of the people at the base better too or the system will inevitably crumble at some point. It seems Mr Trump never got that memo.
Oh I know, and agree 100%. I was responding to why he should even have 1%. He's helping SOME people, mostly in his base. "The economy, stupid" means different things to different people, but I bet most of his base will be happy with a little extra money. Even if they are hurt by some his policies he usually sends a strong "I got your back, and fuck everybody else" message.
One of the best books I've read in past few years is "Strangers in Their Own Land by Arlie Hochschild. She is a sociologist in Berkeley who got interested in Tea Party movement after 2010 and traveled to Louisiana to befriend some of the most loyal tea partiers. midway through the book she develops a "deep story", which is the core of what those folks believe. She says most tea party members believe in a American Dream line, in which they wait patiently for many years to get to what they deserve. However, they believe minorities, immigrants, etc. cut in the line in front of them, and they deeply resent that. So that "fuck everybody else" message deeply resonates with Trump base. "Let's give 2% raise to military, but not the federal workers. let's give $4.7B to farmers, but fuck healthcare".
His appeal for social conservatives is obvious too.
One of the best books I've read in past few years is "Strangers in Their Own Land by Arlie Hochschild. She is a sociologist in Berkeley who got interested in Tea Party movement after 2010 and traveled to Louisiana to befriend some of the most loyal tea partiers. midway through the book she develops a "deep story", which is the core of what those folks believe. She says most tea party members believe in a American Dream line, in which they wait patiently for many years to get to what they deserve. However, they believe minorities, immigrants, etc. cut in the line in front of them, and they deeply resent that. So that "fuck everybody else" message deeply resonates with Trump base. "Let's give 2% raise to military, but not the federal workers. let's give $4.7B to farmers, but fuck healthcare".
His appeal for social conservatives is obvious too.