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Jun 16, 2020
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Any reasons in particular that you feel this way?
You’ll appreciate your freedom until its too late and your wife gets to old, at least that’s what I always thought. I don’t see the luxury of not having kids anymore at a certain age, especially when your friends probably have created families already. As you get older and the feeling of going out and stuff regresses it will probably become a quite empty life

If I may compare my life with kids to some of my friends who don’t have kids honestly the arguments I mostly hear are not being able to going out anymore or having the freedom to book a trip to a random country whenever you please. To be frank I’m happy that the highlights of my life aren’t getting drunk on a Friday anymore.

The affection you feel towards your own children just hits different, having said all of this it isn’t a decision you should take overnight and especially getting children with the right woman is the most important aspect. Raising them will go naturally. For me it added a lot to my life and it got the best out of me.
 
Apr 12, 2004
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People should not procreate at all and the world population needs to be cut by 70%.

I volunteer as tribute.

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I think not having kids is a life choice anyone will regret as they get older.
By saying anyone, you mean one in that entire dataset. So, I agree.

As I get older, I am super happy I only date Pro-Choice women.
 

pavelnel

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Oct 24, 2006
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I think not having kids is a life choice anyone will regret as they get older.
There is probably a 1% chance humanity will make it to 2030...With out of control fascism and nazism in Russia, China, right wing lunatics in the West and exponentially evolving AI, which will leave hundreds of millions of people jobless and potentially lead to bloody revolutions, the future is more bleak than ever.
We do not even need sentient AI to exterminate us. We will do this to ourself long before that.

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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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I think not having kids is a life choice anyone will regret as they get older.
Here's my thought on this.

I actually don't mind (CARE is a better word) If somebody decides not to have kids. But I do think people will regret it at a certain point. However, what I find horrible is how people lie to themselves when giving reasons on why not to have kids. Saying stuff like "world is already overpopulated" "people are destroying the planet" (TV Show Utopia is great, though), "I don't want to raise a kid in THIS world", etc. Such things are fucking bullshit. World nowadays has shitload of flaws, that's for sure, but compared to the past it's still quite great, no, since parents used to lose like 4 out of 5-6 kids in the past as just one example. Secondly, I find it silly how some certain people put themselves in a role of God, worrying about planets resources LOL, I mean c'mon give me a break. There's a handful of people marrying older women who can't have kids so they have to give some sort of reason to lie to themselves since it's brutal to say it's because of their age imo. As for a financial standpoint, I don't want to comment on it as people from the West live entirely different life compared to me, so their expense is something that I never had myself most likely, so I don't even know the feel of missing out, but still, it's not like I'm crying over some things that I can't have. We're just mere mortals. I don't know why some folks give themsevles an idea of knowing how the world is going to be. What if world doesn't end in a war and we don't die, what if AI doesn't destroy us all? What if in 15 years it turns out that life just continues, like it used to continue until now? It's easier for men. But it's women that won't be able to get pregnant and we won't be able to get that time back. The "mistake" of that is unmeasurable imo.

Life is great. Literally great. Imo it's quite selfish not to give it someone else, but rather enjoy it yourself. Spend your money on what? Cars? Houses? Travels? Food? Sure, it's all cool and great, but on a bigger scale it's a dogshit and can't come even close to a family.
 

pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
Here's my thought on this.

I actually don't mind (CARE is a better word) If somebody decides not to have kids. But I do think people will regret it at a certain point. However, what I find horrible is how people lie to themselves when giving reasons on why not to have kids. Saying stuff like "world is already overpopulated" "people are destroying the planet" (TV Show Utopia is great, though), "I don't want to raise a kid in THIS world", etc. Such things are fucking bullshit. World nowadays has shitload of flaws, that's for sure, but compared to the past it's still quite great, no, since parents used to lose like 4 out of 5-6 kids in the past as just one example. Secondly, I find it silly how some certain people put themselves in a role of God, worrying about planets resources LOL, I mean c'mon give me a break. There's a handful of people marrying older women who can't have kids so they have to give some sort of reason to lie to themselves since it's brutal to say it's because of their age imo. As for a financial standpoint, I don't want to comment on it as people from the West live entirely different life compared to me, so their expense is something that I never had myself most likely, so I don't even know the feel of missing out, but still, it's not like I'm crying over some things that I can't have. We're just mere mortals. I don't know why some folks give themsevles an idea of knowing how the world is going to be. What if world doesn't end in a war and we don't die, what if AI doesn't destroy us all? What if in 15 years it turns out that life just continues, like it used to continue until now? It's easier for men. But it's women that won't be able to get pregnant and we won't be able to get that time back. The "mistake" of that is unmeasurable imo.

Life is great. Literally great. Imo it's quite selfish not to give it someone else, but rather enjoy it yourself. Spend your money on what? Cars? Houses? Travels? Food? Sure, it's all cool and great, but on a bigger scale it's a dogshit and can't come even close to a family.
Life is great right now for many people, and for me too, but I do not think anyone of us is really prepared for the horror show in the next few years. Having children right now IMO is irresponsible and selfish decision.
Leaving aside how some of you easily disregard the destruction of nature and resources, AI is quite possible the biggest threat to humanity ever. And I do not mean that it is going to destroy us when it becomes sentient as it does not need it to be. Our economic system will collapse long before that and I do not want to imagine the consequences.

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Jun 16, 2020
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Life is great right now for many people, and for me too, but I do not think anyone of us is really prepared for the horror show in the next few years. Having children right now IMO is irresponsible and selfish decision.
Leaving aside how some of you easily disregard the destruction of nature and resources, AI is quite possible the biggest threat to humanity ever. And I do not mean that it is going to destroy us when it becomes sentient as it does not need it to be. Our economic system will collapse long before that and I do not want to imagine the consequences.

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People had the same type of arguments during the Cold War, or after the World Wars. I don’t think that it’s as bad as you portray it.

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That’s why you keep them illegitimate and far away until you need the to feel good about yourself before you die.
My cousin always say the same thing but to avoid costs
 

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