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[icemaη]

Rubio getting decimated. All the money in the world can't save him now.

 

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[Scottish]

The US President doesn't have that much power. There's no way the House and Congress would go with him on that/

Thank Christ for the foresight of the USA's founding fathers. They didn't want no despot and it would be mad hard for one to establish himself.

 

[Ronn]

Rubio getting decimated. All the money in the world can't save him now.

He's focusing on Florida which is do or die for him. A new poll shows him only 5% behind Trump
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/artic...ils-5-florida-poll-conducted-anti-trump-group

 

[Post Ironic]

Trump is so damn funny. These primaries are hilarious. I really do hope Trumps wins the nomination.

He reminds me of this Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch from 1980.

 

[ALC]

Thank Christ for the foresight of the USA's founding fathers. They didn't want no despot and it would be mad hard for one to establish himself.

a lot of what they believed was very progressive for the time. Great minds the lot of them.

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Trump is so damn funny. These primaries are hilarious. I really do hope Trumps wins the nomination.

He reminds me of this Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch from 1980.

He is funny, I agree with that. If he gets nominated, that will be one of the best elections ever

 

[Seven]

Or maybe it's a basic lack of historical knowledge. Hitler had a set of principle all prepared. Trump is just spewing shit.

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Or maybe it's a basic lack of historical knowledge. Hitler had a set of principles all prepared. Trump is just spewing shit.

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Or maybe it's a basic lack of historical knowledge. Hitler had a set of principles all prepared. Trump is just spewing shit.

I don't wanna list all differences, so I guess I'll just state the obvious: Trump is very un-ideological, while Hitler was a complete fanatic.

Not that voting Trump into office wouldn't be a really really bad idea, mostly because, as you said, he is so completely unpredictable.

And no, I don't think that Trump could ever start a war that would lead to 40 million dead people, destroy an entire continent, and introduce a factory-like system of mass murder.

Bottom line is, he doesn't have to be as bad as arguably the worst state leader in history to be a very bad choice for president. And to make him out as that is simply a hyperbole.

Those comparing Trump to Hitler needs history lessons.

You guys are giving way too much credit to Hitler for some reason. He might have been a fanatic, but in no way was he someone who stuck to his own ideological principles. In fact his ideology was a weird mix of racism, nationalism and weird ass economics with very little regard for continuity.

Another thing you guys should also consider: obviously Trump does not have to be an exact copy of Hitler. People are comparing the two because they both appeal to large masses with essentially highly simplistic and often downright racist messages. The fear is obviously that a man who wants to build a friggin' wall to keep Mexicans out might bring a great deal of harm to the world.

Don't justify the man. Don't act as if it is intelligent and you're just being nuanced when you say he obviously isn't Hitler. Give a maniac a gun and bad things happen. There's a time and place to be nuanced. This is not it. You should, without any doubt, reject this man and see him for what he is.

 

[Salvo]

Is sanders a chance at all?

 

[Seven]

Is sanders a chance at all?

Not anymore. Claire Underwood will be running for the Democrats.

 

[Salvo]

Not anymore. Claire Underwood will be running for the Democrats.

Fucked it.

 

[Seven]

Fucked it.

300 million people. And these are the candidates they come up with. What a sorry state of affairs.

 

[Boksic]

Is Trump wanting to build a wall really such a big deal? I don't see the huge problem.

I am not well versed in US politics but it seems like there is an issue with illegal immigration, why is making it harder for people to enter the country illegally a racist action?

It doesn't seem all that different to Hungary/Macedonia having to put up fences to help stem the flow of migrants in recent months or the UK doing border checks when people arrive from France.

I'm genuinely not trying to stir an issue but I just don't see why so much is made of this and why it is considered racist.

 

[Nenz]

I hate Trump but the guy does not have blood on his hands. Ahmadinejad, and pretty much anybody in Islamic Republic ruling class, have a lot of blood on their hands. Let that sink in for a moment.

Just give Trump a chance. The man is prepared to inflict a lot of suffering. But in retrospect, that's just part of being in office.

 

[Scottish]

a lot of what they believed was very progressive for the time. Great minds the lot of them.

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He is funny, I agree with that. If he gets nominated, that will be one of the best elections ever

Even more so when you learn about some of the ideas on the table which were rejected in the end by one or another of the others.

Anyway the point is that the president of the usa these days is little more than an.ambassador for the people. Beyond that he hasn't got much real power. The idea of having Donald Trump is most worrying to me as it says much about the American people.

 

[Ocelot]

Comparing Trump to Hitler.

Seen.It.All.

Ahhhm...shall I remind you that you've lived in a country where frigging Obama was compared to Hitler on a weekly basis?

Trump seems like Adolf's twin in comparison.

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You guys are giving way too much credit to Hitler for some reason. He might have been a fanatic, but in no way was he someone who stuck to his own ideological principles. In fact his ideology was a weird mix of racism, nationalism and weird ass economics with very little regard for continuity.

Another thing you guys should also consider: obviously Trump does not have to be an exact copy of Hitler. People are comparing the two because they both appeal to large masses with essentially highly simplistic and often downright racist messages. The fear is obviously that a man who wants to build a friggin' wall to keep Mexicans out might bring a great deal of harm to the world.

Don't justify the man. Don't act as if it is intelligent and you're just being nuanced when you say he obviously isn't Hitler. Give a maniac a gun and bad things happen. There's a time and place to be nuanced. This is not it. You should, without any doubt, reject this man and see him for what he is.

No one is justifying him ffs, you don't have to be as bad as Hitler to be a bad president. It's just a bad comparison.

Trump is pretty much a pure populist, and while you could of course find flaws or contradictions in the naionalsocialist ideology (it's the nationalsocialist ideology after all), it was a fully fleshed out program and ideology, with lots of theoretical work behind it. Trump has nothing of that sorts.

Both appeal to large masses of people, both are somewhat xenophobic/racist and authoritarian. That's where the similarities end.

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Anyway the point is that the president of the usa these days is little more than an.ambassador for the people. Beyond that he hasn't got much real power. The idea of having Donald Trump is most worrying to me as it says much about the American people.

Nah, he's still very important, especially when it comes to foreign relations. Not a dictator of course or anything, but very comparable to guys like Merkel or Cameron in their respective states.

Obama the past 6 years was an exception in that he had to govern against the congress.

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Just give Trump a chance. The man is prepared to inflict a lot of suffering. But in retrospect, that's just part of being in office.

What?

 

[Nenz]

What?

I'm trying to say that Trump, if elected, would have no qualms with getting blood on his hands. But every U.S President since Roosevelt got their hands dirty in one way or another anyway. Killing innocent people is an unavoidable part of the job.

 

[Salvo]

300 million people. And these are the candidates they come up with. What a sorry state of affairs.

Woeful.

Trump won't win, surely, he won't get any black or Hispanic votes.

 

[Martin]

I'm trying to say that Trump, if elected, would have no qualms with getting blood on his hands. But every U.S President since Roosevelt got their hands dirty in one way or another anyway. Killing innocent people is an unavoidable part of the job.

What an absurd thing to say. Why on earth would that be unavoidable?

 

[Ocelot]

I'm trying to say that Trump, if elected, would have no qualms with getting blood on his hands. But every U.S President since Roosevelt got their hands dirty in one way or another anyway. Killing innocent people is an unavoidable part of the job.

Very debateable.

But even if you're right, the way Trump's been talking, he's gonna kill a lot of innocent people that would be very avoidable too.

With your argument you could argue for literally everyone to get the job, including Sauron and a bag of rice.

 

[Nenz]

What an absurd thing to say. Why on earth would that be unavoidable?

Well, it's true. There's always going to be something going on in the world that apparently demands the use of U.S military force. Obama killed as many as 1000 innocent civilians with drone strikes alone and still he was called soft in Washington for not being trigger happy enough. Unfortunately, when it comes to matters of state security, being too passive is politically unwise.

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Very debateable.

But even if you're right, the way Trump's been talking, he's gonna kill a lot of innocent people that would be very avoidable too.

With your argument you could argue for literally everyone to get the job, including Sauron and a bag of rice.

I'm not really talking about eligibility for the presidency. I'm just saying, whoever does get it, by the end of their first term, will be implicit in the death of innocent civilians. Is that so scandalous to say? I would have thought it pretty obvious.

 

[Seven]

Ahhhm...shall I remind you that you've lived in a country where frigging Obama was compared to Hitler on a weekly basis?

Trump seems like Adolf's twin in comparison.

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No one is justifying him ffs, you don't have to be as bad as Hitler to be a bad president. It's just a bad comparison.

Trump is pretty much a pure populist, and while you could of course find flaws or contradictions in the naionalsocialist ideology (it's the nationalsocialist ideology after all), it was a fully fleshed out program and ideology, with lots of theoretical work behind it. Trump has nothing of that sorts.

Both appeal to large masses of people, both are somewhat xenophobic/racist and authoritarian. That's where the similarities end.

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Nah, he's still very important, especially when it comes to foreign relations. Not a dictator of course or anything, but very comparable to guys like Merkel or Cameron in their respective states.

Obama the past 6 years was an exception in that he had to govern against the congress.

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What?

People compare him to Hitler because he appeals to the masses with a xenophobic discourse. You acknowledge this yourself. No one says he's Hitler's reincarnation.