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I agree with that. Although I wouldn't call those deaths "unavoidable".
What I still don't agree with is "just give Trump a chance"
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You could argue that at times those innocent deaths are "necessary" because they prevent even more innocent people dying.
Of course that doesn't really apply to the vast majority of the people killed by the US since WW II.
What I still don't agree with is "just give Trump a chance"
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You could argue that at times those innocent deaths are "necessary" because they prevent even more innocent people dying.
Of course that doesn't really apply to the vast majority of the people killed by the US since WW II.
Ahhhm...shall I remind you that you've lived in a country where frigging Obama was compared to Hitler on a weekly basis?
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It would be a hell of a lot more avoidable if we stayed the hell home and out of other people's shit.
While there is nothing wrong with wanting all the immigration coming in the country to be legal, sometimes it is just not worth it financially speaking. The wall will cost buckets of money and if the US government decides to take the same number of unskilled migrants through the legal channels (Work Visas etc..) then that will require a huge expansion of the immigration office and will cost more buckets of money. Add to that that legal migrants have more rights than illegal ones and would cost the government more in terms of benefits and what not.
Illegal immigration into the US barely has an effect on crimes and security etc.. and the labor is needed in the country, so its really not worth building a super expensive wall and processing thousands more immigration applications. Turning a blind eye has been working well with no real security threat at all. At the very most, US government could fund the policing more and keep crime levels to normal levels which would again be a lot cheaper than building the wall and processing thousands of applications.
Now if there was evidence of a substantial security threat from the Mexicans that come in (something serious like terrorism), then perhaps a wall would make sense but since that is not the case then turning a blind eye is substantially cheaper and more efficient.
You won't see that argument made often in the media because the democrat media made into a racism issue and not an economic one even though the latter is a much stronger argument imo. Illegal immigration is fueling racism though because the one's that get most hit by it are the poorest of the Americans who are unskilled, uneducated and so on. They are the ones who look to be employed as Gardeners, garbage men, delivery boys, cleaning and such unskilled servicing jobs that the illegal immigrants now compete with them for. You can pay an illegal migrant below minimum wage and get the job done but you wont be able to do so with a citizen. Trump and his ilk appeal to the people who get competition from illegals for jobs and thats why for Trump it politically makes sense to flex the wallet for the wall even if it will be a huge waste of money.
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Its not half as Xenophobic as Hitler's rhetoric man. There are plenty of presidents today that are infinitely worse and even they are not as Xenophobic as Hitler. The comparison to Israel's wall (I dont remember who made it) is also hilarious and really undermines what Israel are doing in the Westbank. The guy wants to keep out illegal immigration from Mexico because he wants to appeal to those who compete with illegals for jobs. The racist touch gives it a wider appeal amongst racists but he won't stop work visas altogether for instance. He is not even the only Republican promising border controls. This is hardly Hitler's stance towards the Jews, the gypsies, the handicapped, the homosexuals etc... I wouldn't even say that the Islamists in Egypt are as Xenophobic as Hitler. Even they wouldn't go that far.
The fear of trump is really over rated. He doesn't even have a party backing him up. Right and Left wing media are against him. Atleast Bernie has support in the Media and from within his party (less than Hilary ofcourse). Both won't be able to do much as presidents.
Illegal immigration into the US barely has an effect on crimes and security etc.. and the labor is needed in the country, so its really not worth building a super expensive wall and processing thousands more immigration applications. Turning a blind eye has been working well with no real security threat at all. At the very most, US government could fund the policing more and keep crime levels to normal levels which would again be a lot cheaper than building the wall and processing thousands of applications.
Now if there was evidence of a substantial security threat from the Mexicans that come in (something serious like terrorism), then perhaps a wall would make sense but since that is not the case then turning a blind eye is substantially cheaper and more efficient.
You won't see that argument made often in the media because the democrat media made into a racism issue and not an economic one even though the latter is a much stronger argument imo. Illegal immigration is fueling racism though because the one's that get most hit by it are the poorest of the Americans who are unskilled, uneducated and so on. They are the ones who look to be employed as Gardeners, garbage men, delivery boys, cleaning and such unskilled servicing jobs that the illegal immigrants now compete with them for. You can pay an illegal migrant below minimum wage and get the job done but you wont be able to do so with a citizen. Trump and his ilk appeal to the people who get competition from illegals for jobs and thats why for Trump it politically makes sense to flex the wallet for the wall even if it will be a huge waste of money.
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Its not half as Xenophobic as Hitler's rhetoric man. There are plenty of presidents today that are infinitely worse and even they are not as Xenophobic as Hitler. The comparison to Israel's wall (I dont remember who made it) is also hilarious and really undermines what Israel are doing in the Westbank. The guy wants to keep out illegal immigration from Mexico because he wants to appeal to those who compete with illegals for jobs. The racist touch gives it a wider appeal amongst racists but he won't stop work visas altogether for instance. He is not even the only Republican promising border controls. This is hardly Hitler's stance towards the Jews, the gypsies, the handicapped, the homosexuals etc... I wouldn't even say that the Islamists in Egypt are as Xenophobic as Hitler. Even they wouldn't go that far.
The fear of trump is really over rated. He doesn't even have a party backing him up. Right and Left wing media are against him. Atleast Bernie has support in the Media and from within his party (less than Hilary ofcourse). Both won't be able to do much as presidents.
GOP debate too much for Jerry Springer!
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/social/jerry-springer-shocked-republican-debate
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/social/jerry-springer-shocked-republican-debate
GOP debate too much for Jerry Springer!
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/social/jerry-springer-shocked-republican-debate
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/social/jerry-springer-shocked-republican-debate
