Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (74 Viewers)

Völler

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May 6, 2012
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Das Boot - Good one but I expected more. I totally loved the atmosphere, though. Quite claustrophobic and gripping. I can't say I liked the ending.

Eskiya - Nice and entertaining movie to watch. I did not like the ending due to scrip loophole on the roof.

Rush - Pretty great movie, I enjoyed it a lot more than Ford vs Ferrari (bar acting, which was better in FvF). I liked how they portrayed the two character who are totally different. Music was phenomenal but then when I saw it was Hans Zimmer I was not surprised, sound track was brilliant. Btw I gotta mention that I had no idea how the real story went, so it was probably more interesting to me than to others who are into it, because I really hate F1. Despite that, I really think it was good.

Ace in the Hole - Good and enjoyable movie. I really like Kirk Douglas so that's an extra here.

Sherlock Jr. - I loved it. It was so creative and funny, pretty damn crazy it's from 1924.

Incendies - Loved it. Out of new school of directors Denis Villenueve is surely in my top 3, I just love his movies. Pretty powerful story and entertaining. The only thing that I didn't like was how the woman looked pretty much the same despite 20 years difference in the story, but I suppose that's because of the ending which was great.

Casino - Man, despite the hatred I've seen towards this film (even here) I really liked it. Joe Pesci was brilliant while I also liked De Niro (who knows me will know that I do not rate that guy high, so this is huge from me). What's not to like here? I don't get it really. It was super entertaining, those 3 hours felt like 2, while it was funny, had great pace and a nice story with interesting characters. Boring and slow!? Hell no!

Dial M for Murder - Can't really go wrong with Hitchcock. Entertaining and gripping movie about the murder.

La Isla Minima - Nice Spanish movie. Pretty good for those who like detective stuff. Nothing extraordinary but worth a watch imo.

The Gentlemen - I really liked it. I was left surprised as I had no expectations despite movie being made by Guy. IMO it was better than Knives Out. I liked the structure better and acting was also nice.
Good batch here. :D

Sherlock Jr. is a stone cold mastepiece and way ahead of its time (as you also mention). Casino, Incendies, Dial M for Murder and Ace in the Hole are great, while Marshland and Rush are good (in my opinion). :)

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To me, to be a great actor, it requires a big set of skill of which an actor changes personalities and plays different roles on a big level. De Niro's performances are linear and in plenty of the cases he's just decent or good, nothing really special about it. It's like you're good at crime roles and that's about it. But even in such roles I'd easily take Joe Pesci over him. Easily. I liked his performances in Once upon a time and in Casino while I think he was decent and overrated in Raging Bull. I also think he was decent in Taxi Driver (massively overhyped) while he was a totally shit and non-existent in The Deer Hunter. To me, plenty of actors could've pulled such performances, in majority of his films, which doesn't make him a living legend in my books.
You're insane. :D I'd recommend you watch Awakenings if you want to see another side of De Niro, but if you think his performances in Raging Bull and Taxi Driver are overrated, all hope is lost. :p
 

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Dostoevsky

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Good batch here. :D

Sherlock Jr. is a stone cold mastepiece and way ahead of its time (as you also mention). Casino, Incendies, Dial M for Murder and Ace in the Hole are great, while Marshland and Rush are good (in my opinion). :)

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You're insane. :D I'd recommend you watch Awakenings if you want to see another side of De Niro, but if you think his performances in Raging Bull and Taxi Driver are overrated, all hope is lost. :p
I agree. I still didn't want to put such a strong comment but I'm also watching Charlie Chaplin. I really gotta highlight Sherlock Jr. as a remarkable movie and waaaay ahead of it's time, I loved the creativity.

Dude, Taxi Driver is just... no. Movie itself is overrated but his performance is nothing special. Majority of good actors could pull that off. Barely anyone could act like Day-Lewis and that gap is insanely high. I saw better performance in quite similar-insane La Haine. IMO De Niro is without a doubt a linear performer, in way too many of movies he's basically the same and while he may be decent at it, to say he's one of the best actors is just lol.

Oh and yea. That was a great batch of movies. I loved those hours of pleasure.

EDIT: Btw I did notice something I fuck up when I write. Each time I write about a movie I say "good, great, amazing, etc" and sometimes it happens that I say something, then I say something else about the other movie making it sound better than the previous one which is sometimes not the case LOL. I'll try to keep an eye on that when I do big reviews.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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I agree. I still didn't want to put such a strong comment but I'm also watching Charlie Chaplin. I really gotta highlight Sherlock Jr. as a remarkable movie and waaaay ahead of it's time, I loved the creativity.
If you loved Sherlock Jr., you should definitely also watch The General. Sherlock Jr. is my favorite though, partly because of the meta layer. Buster Keaton is amazing though.

I will overlook the rest of your post. :D
 

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If you loved Sherlock Jr., you should definitely also watch The General. Sherlock Jr. is my favorite though, partly because of the meta layer. Buster Keaton is amazing though.

I will overlook the rest of your post. :D
Oh yes, Keaton nailed it :D and yeah, I already have The General listed for the upcoming days :tup:
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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Enjoyed a little Poirot marathon on the telly tonight :touched:
Murder on the Orient Express (1974)
Death on the Nile (1978)
Evil Under the Sun (1982)

Btw that 2017 Kenneth Bragan Poirot movie is getting a sequel with Death on the Nile (2020) with Gal Gadot as the murder victim. Found the connection a bit stupid however. How can Poirot get a message to investigate a murder on the Nile when he was in Africa on vacation and just stumbled into a murder?
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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The Lighthouse :tup:

But has anyone read the Wikipedia page for it? :sergio:


HomoeroticismEdit
For Michaela Barton of Flipscreened, "this film is so clearly gay that an analysis of its homoerotic subtext would be like arguing the sky is blue".[20] Robert Eggers has refused to concretely state whether the characters are gay or straight, stating: "Am I saying these characters are gay? No. I’m not saying they’re not either. Forget about complexities of human sexuality or their particular inclinations. I’m more about questions than answers in this movie".[21]

Wake frequently compliments Winslow's physical appearance, calling him "pretty as a picture" and describing his eyes as “bright as a lady”. Barton interprets Howard's name change to his previous, deceased boss as indicative of a more intimate relationship: "Considering the act of Tommy taking his name, this behavior suggests a tender and affectionate attitude, almost like the tradition of taking your partner's name after marriage".[20] When asked about the scene in which Winslow criticizes Wake's cooking, Wake's desperate need for validation of his lobster is a euphemism for his penis.[21]

Sexual fantasy and masturbation are recurring themes in the film. Winslow frequently masturbates to the mermaid figurine throughout the film. He fantasizes of a mermaid washed up on the shore. When he sees her enlarged vagina (based off shark genitalia)[22] he runs screaming. Barton interprets his reaction, stating that it "is fairly obvious – the mermaid was never Tommy’s siren. His true siren is revealed a little later."[20]

For Dafoe, the homoeroticism in the film is blatant, but it is also used to explore what it means to be a man: "Toxic masculinity! They’re pushing each other’s buttons out of fear and out of threat of who they are. And they’re both guilty. They have a sense of guilt, of wrong. There’s no moral judgment in this story. It’s just to watch these two guys struggling to find a way to survive themselves, really... It’s a simple story, but it’s got existential roots and identity things and things about masculinity and domination and submission. And for better and for worse. Then you see it flip-flop and it’s kind of cool."[21] After beating Wake into submission, Howard assumes a dominant role, calling Wake dog and dragging him on a leash. Commenting on this scene, Pattinson stated that, "there’s definitely a take where we were literally trying to pull each other’s pants down. It literally almost looked like foreplay”.[23]

Jude Dry of IndieWire critiqued the film's queer subtext for not going far enough. As Wake is being led on all fours by Howard's rope, the scene mimics BDSM culture, but not sufficiently for Dry: "It feels like a missed opportunity at best — and a spineless maneuver at worst — to invoke themes of dominance and submission, borrowing from queer fetish culture, without even so much as a genuine erotic exchange".[23]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lighthouse_(2019_film)#cite_note-:3-23
 

Osman

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Good will hunting, randomly rewatched it last night after nearly 2 decades. Such a powerful and genuine movie. One of those movies that makes me tear up instantly.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Good will hunting, randomly rewatched it last night after nearly 2 decades. Such a powerful and genuine movie. One of those movies that makes me tear up instantly.
:agree: great movie

Enjoyed a little Poirot marathon on the telly tonight :touched:
Murder on the Orient Express (1974)
Death on the Nile (1978)
Evil Under the Sun (1982)

Btw that 2017 Kenneth Bragan Poirot movie is getting a sequel with Death on the Nile (2020) with Gal Gadot as the murder victim. Found the connection a bit stupid however. How can Poirot get a message to investigate a murder on the Nile when he was in Africa on vacation and just stumbled into a murder?
I loved all of those three. Plus there are many amazing episodes from the old tv show. Each ep is like 1h20min and its great.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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The Lighthouse:tup:

But has anyone read the Wikipedia page for it? :sergio:


HomoeroticismEdit
For Michaela Barton of Flipscreened, "this film is so clearly gay that an analysis of its homoerotic subtext would be like arguing the sky is blue".[20] Robert Eggers has refused to concretely state whether the characters are gay or straight, stating: "Am I saying these characters are gay? No. I’m not saying they’re not either. Forget about complexities of human sexuality or their particular inclinations. I’m more about questions than answers in this movie".[21]

Wake frequently compliments Winslow's physical appearance, calling him "pretty as a picture" and describing his eyes as “bright as a lady”. Barton interprets Howard's name change to his previous, deceased boss as indicative of a more intimate relationship: "Considering the act of Tommy taking his name, this behavior suggests a tender and affectionate attitude, almost like the tradition of taking your partner's name after marriage".[20] When asked about the scene in which Winslow criticizes Wake's cooking, Wake's desperate need for validation of his lobster is a euphemism for his penis.[21]

Sexual fantasy and masturbation are recurring themes in the film. Winslow frequently masturbates to the mermaid figurine throughout the film. He fantasizes of a mermaid washed up on the shore. When he sees her enlarged vagina (based off shark genitalia)[22] he runs screaming. Barton interprets his reaction, stating that it "is fairly obvious – the mermaid was never Tommy’s siren. His true siren is revealed a little later."[20]

For Dafoe, the homoeroticism in the film is blatant, but it is also used to explore what it means to be a man: "Toxic masculinity! They’re pushing each other’s buttons out of fear and out of threat of who they are. And they’re both guilty. They have a sense of guilt, of wrong. There’s no moral judgment in this story. It’s just to watch these two guys struggling to find a way to survive themselves, really... It’s a simple story, but it’s got existential roots and identity things and things about masculinity and domination and submission. And for better and for worse. Then you see it flip-flop and it’s kind of cool."[21] After beating Wake into submission, Howard assumes a dominant role, calling Wake dog and dragging him on a leash. Commenting on this scene, Pattinson stated that, "there’s definitely a take where we were literally trying to pull each other’s pants down. It literally almost looked like foreplay”.[23]

Jude Dry of IndieWire critiqued the film's queer subtext for not going far enough. As Wake is being led on all fours by Howard's rope, the scene mimics BDSM culture, but not sufficiently for Dry: "It feels like a missed opportunity at best — and a spineless maneuver at worst — to invoke themes of dominance and submission, borrowing from queer fetish culture, without even so much as a genuine erotic exchange".[23]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lighthouse_(2019_film)#cite_note-:3-23
weird. i watched the movie and never picked up any queer or bdsm vibes from it. I guess i'm not woke enough to be a movie critic.

But i did notice a lack of diversity among the cast. Defoe, pattinson, even all the seagulls were white :disagree:
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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weird. i watched the movie and never picked up any queer or bdsm vibes from it. I guess i'm not woke enough to be a movie critic.

But i did notice a lack of diversity among the cast. Defoe, pattinson, even all the seagulls were white :disagree:
It's a film about two men alone on an island with a big lighthouse to take care of, and you didn't sense any any homosexual undertones?

Here's a link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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It's a film about two men alone on an island with a big lighthouse to take care of, and you didn't sense any any homosexual undertones?

Here's a link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
Lighthouses and two men being in the same location don't automatically make me think of penises or gayness but i know we're prone to projecting our inner selves in understanding the world around us so i'm not surprised some other people see it.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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It's a film about two men alone on an island with a big lighthouse to take care of, and you didn't sense any any homosexual undertones?

Here's a link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phallus
There’s certainly homoeroticism there in the same vein that Whitman’s Leaves of Grass is filled with homoerotic imagery. In and of itself that doesn’t make a film “gay” or necessitate that it belong to gay culture. Nor does it make sense to have film critics saying the filmmaker wimped out by not having full on gay sex scenes added to the film.
 

Völler

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May 6, 2012
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There’s certainly homoeroticism there in the same vein that Whitman’s Leaves of Grass is filled with homoerotic imagery. In and of itself that doesn’t make a film “gay” or necessitate that it belong to gay culture. Nor does it make sense to have film critics saying the filmmaker wimped out by not having full on gay sex scenes added to the film.
I'm not suggesting that.
 

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