Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (25 Viewers)

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May 6, 2012
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Quality? I never watched a series with bad quality.
Nah. I mean, it is better quality, but for most people it won't make a difference if they watch a compressed 1080p torrent or HD on Netflix. Most notably quality difference is the subtitles. And while it's nice that you don't need to go look for subtitles and all, that's a minor thing. The real answer is, of course, that it's legal. If you care about supporting the filmmakers and such. :p And it's a great platform. Remembering where you paused a movie, playing the next episode of a series automatically etc. It's just really convenient and dirt-cheap.
 

Klin

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Nah. I mean, it is better quality, but for most people it won't make a difference if they watch a compressed 1080p torrent or HD on Netflix. Most notably quality difference is the subtitles. And while it's nice that you don't need to go look for subtitles and all, that's a minor thing. The real answer is, of course, that it's legal. If you care about supporting the filmmakers and such. :p And it's a great platform. Remembering where you paused a movie, playing the next episode of a series automatically etc. It's just really convenient and dirt-cheap.
What a load of horseshit. :lol:
 

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Yes, and the "Remembering where you paused a movie, playing the next episode of a series automatically etc." part too. :lol:
The last part was just to point out that their platform is good.

It's not like I don't download torrents myself, but I don't really think you can justify doing it (except rare cases).
 

Klin

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The last part was just to point out that their platform is good.

It's not like I don't download torrents myself, but I don't really think you can justify doing it (except rare cases).
There's no justifying it. It's common sense that people would rather opt for a free service when the quality is almost similar to the legal service. Actually I think it would affect the movie industry negatively if people were not to use torrents anymore.
 

Seven

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We do, but even so, why would I need Netflix when I could just download torrents?
Because illegally downloading torrents is literally stealing. And if you get a decent fully legal service for a minimal fee, I think I'd rather do that. Also, I have a smart tv and Netflix is very user friendly on that medium. Torrents not so much. I am sure there are ways around all this and I know you can get high quality torrents, but I can't bother putting that much effort into stealing.
 

Klin

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Because illegally downloading torrents is literally stealing. And if you get a decent fully legal service for a minimal fee, I think I'd rather do that. Also, I have a smart tv and Netflix is very user friendly on that medium. Torrents not so much. I am sure there are ways around all this and I know you can get high quality torrents, but I can't bother putting that much effort into stealing.
Downloading a torrent does not require that much of an effort.
 

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There's no justifying it. It's common sense that people would rather opt for a free service when the quality is almost similar to the legal service. Actually I think it would affect the movie industry negatively if people were not to use torrents anymore.
Yup, people don't care about whether or not they're breaking the law when it comes to piracy. There's practically no risk involved and no social stigma attached.

I think it's naive to think that torrents help the movie industry. Sure, there are probably some films and shows where that's the case, but certainly not overall.
 

Klin

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Yup, people don't care about whether or not they're breaking the law when it comes to piracy. There's practically no risk involved and no social stigma attached.

I think it's naive to think that torrents help the movie industry. Sure, there are probably some films and shows where that's the case, but certainly not overall.
I for one would certainly watch far less movies/series if I had to pay for them. Like me there are millions more. Sure, I enjoy watching a movie at the cinema once a month or so, but that's different than watching a movie/episodes almost every day.
 

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I for one would certainly watch far less movies/series if I had to pay for them. Like me there are millions more. Sure, I enjoy watching a movie at the cinema once a month or so, but that's different than watching a movie/episodes almost every day.
But you're not generating any income whatsoever for the movie industry right now (except at the cinema once or twice a month). Don't you think you'd be more inclined to sign up for Netflix to watch Peaky Blinders, House of Cards, Breaking Bad or whatever if torrenting wasn't an option?
 

Klin

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But you're not generating any income whatsoever for the movie business right now (except at the cinema once or twice a month). Don't you think you'd be more inclined to sign up for Netflix to watch Peaky Blinders, House of Cards, Breaking Bad or whatever if torrenting wasn't an option?
I understand that of course and you are right, but IMO having more viewers is also important. I know, non-profitable, but it still has it's positives. Let's take The Revenant for example. It still hasn't arrived to the local cinemas here, and people are already labeling it as the movie of the year on Facebook and during conversations at work. It's still good publicity which works in their favor too.

On your second question, yes I probably would, but I certainly would think twice before paying for an HBO subscription for example to watch GoT, etc. I'd be more careful what to watch, so I'd watch less.
 

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I understand that of course and you are right, but IMO having more viewers is also important. I know, non-profitable, but it still has it's positives. Let's take The Revenant for example. It still hasn't arrived to the local cinemas here, and people are already labeling it as the movie of the year on Facebook and during conversations at work. It's still good publicity.

On your second question, yes I probably would, but I certainly would think twice before paying for an HBO subscription for example to watch GoT, etc. I'd be more careful what to watch, so I'd watch less.
I think you're right when saying that generating buzz through torrenting could actually result in better ticket sales. I just don't think it applies for many movies. The Revenant, as you mention, is not a good example, in my opinion. It already generated a lot buzz based on the trailer and the fact that it stars DiCaprio and Hardy and is directed by an Oscar-winning director. Furthermore, it's getting released just now because it will get a lot of Oscar nominations next week. There'd be more than enough buzz around the movie without the piracy. I think it's much more likely that a huge number of people won't go see it in the cinema because they already downloaded the leaked screener.
 

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