Maurizio Sarri (62 Viewers)

DAiDEViL

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"...We have a problem we absolutely need to resolve."
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"...The mind is the most important thing. If your mind is not at 100 percent, then the physique won’t follow."


I'm seeing parallels here.
 
May 23, 2013
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You know Chiellni didn't play with leg against Ajax right?

We had to use Rugani (our 5th choice CB) in both legs. Of course we should have beaten them (don't ignore the penalty we should have had and the Costa shot against the post in the first leg) but we were a far better team last season than we are this year.

Do you seriously not think Rabiot and Ramsey are better players than Khedira and Matuidi?

Sarri has also continued to play "shaky, traitorous Bonucci" when we had Demiral and De Ligt both fit. I wouldn't put Benatia's exit down to Allegri, I'd blame Paratici for thinking he could replace him with an injury prone Caceres.

I didn't say Allegri had the perfect season last year but I have no doubt in my mind he would be doing better than Sarri is. Take Napoli out of the equation last year and focus on our results. They speak for themselves, we have far less points, far less goals, far less chances created, far more goals conceded, far more chances conceded than last season. It is clear we are doing worse.
Yeah we didn't have Chiellini for the Ajax game. The thing is in the past this wouldn't have been a problem for Allegri as he would've had a legend like Barzagli or Benatia to come in for Chiello. Wasn't the case last season, primarily due to the fact that he treated Benatia poorly and as a result Benatia was out the club. Costa hit the post and we had a penalty ignored but still we were thoroughly out played, especially in the second leg. Atletico fans could also say they had a goal wrongly disallowed, hit the post and didn't have Diego Costa available. Such are the realities of football.

Khedira is a world cup winner, CL winner, played for football's top teams and Matuidi is also a World Cup winner. For me they are both better than Rabiot and Ramsey in terms of what they've accomplished and what they bring to the table.

Sarri has had to play Bonucci cuz there are no other options. Rugani is meh and Demiral+De Ligt are too young to play together. This is a difficult defensive situation, especially when you are a new manager who's specialty isn't defending. As for Allegri, in my view he brought the defensive conundrum upon himself with his treatment of Benatia.

So far in the league we are worse than Allegri's team last season. But for me if it ends with us on top, imo there won't be anything to complain about.

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The fuck you mean - give? He inherited the motherfucking squad who won the league 5 times in 5 years, it cant get much easier than that...

Your base is weak, I admire that you are still trying, but you are failing and will continue to do so with your blind support to Del Neri v2.0 and your hatred and bashing towards the world class manager we had last 5 years.
Did he have this squad at his disposal the last five years? No. Now that he does have such a squad he will build up a very nice trophy collection, i've got no doubt

Admire what you like
 

Boksic

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Yeah we didn't have Chiellini for the Ajax game. The thing is in the past this wouldn't have been a problem for Allegri as he would've had a legend like Barzagli or Benatia to come in for Chiello. Wasn't the case last season, primarily due to the fact that he treated Benatia poorly and as a result Benatia was out the club. Costa hit the post and we had a penalty ignored but still we were thoroughly out played, especially in the second leg. Atletico fans could also say they had a goal wrongly disallowed, hit the post and didn't have Diego Costa available. Such are the realities of football.

Khedira is a world cup winner, CL winner, played for football's top teams and Matuidi is also a World Cup winner. For me they are both better than Rabiot and Ramsey in terms of what they've accomplished and what they bring to the table.

Sarri has had to play Bonucci cuz there are no other options. Rugani is meh and Demiral+De Ligt are too young to play together. This is a difficult defensive situation, especially when you are a new manager who's specialty isn't defending. As for Allegri, in my view he brought the defensive conundrum upon himself with his treatment of Benatia.

So far in the league we are worse than Allegri's team last season. But for me if it ends with us on top, imo there won't be anything to complain about.
You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say Allegri had Chiellini available so that was the main reason we were better but then at the same time your main criticism is that he got knocked out by Ajax when Chiellini didn't play.

The Benatia issue could have been easily resolved with a proper transfer strategy and backs up the point that when we were knocked out by Ajax the team was weak in defence and had far less options in the squad.

You defend Sarri but say his specialty isn't defending. You can't just excuse a manager that you are trying to defend from one of the key parts of the game. Especially since our attack is toothless and scoring less than last year. If the rest of our game had even a hint of cohesion and fluidity you could be more forgiving of our defensive shambles but it isn't.

Khedira and Matuidi were both useful in their day. Those days are long gone, I would comfortably choose a current Ramsey and Rabiot over last season's Khedira and Matuidi.

"If" we end up on top in Serie A. That is the key phrase. Would we be having the same doubts under Allegri this season? We all know the answer to that.
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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We didn't really look better though, we were "less worse;" yeah its a play on words but I hope you get what I mean. It's like hiring a school teacher and asking him/her to teach without the proper resources. The fact is, there is only so much you can do with this terrible midfield.
No, we looked much better. For the first half of last season Juventus was the best team in Europe.

If we're comparing the funeral last 2 months post Ajax, the absolute worst period of Allegri's 5 years to this year then fuck it.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say Allegri had Chiellini available so that was the main reason we were better but then at the same time your main criticism is that he got knocked out by Ajax when Chiellini didn't play.

The Benatia issue could have been easily resolved with a proper transfer strategy and backs up the point that when we were knocked out by Ajax the team was weak in defence and had far less options in the squad.

You defend Sarri but say his specialty isn't defending. You can't just excuse a manager that you are trying to defend from one of the key parts of the game. Especially since our attack is toothless and scoring less than last year. If the rest of our game had even a hint of cohesion and fluidity you could be more forgiving of our defensive shambles but it isn't.

Khedira and Matuidi were both useful in their day. Those days are long gone, I would comfortably choose a current Ramsey and Rabiot over last season's Khedira and Matuidi.

"If" we end up on top in Serie A. That is the key phrase. Would we be having the same doubts under Allegri this season? We all know the answer to that.
:tup:

He says that Khedira and Matuidi > Ramsey and Rabiot because they have accomplished more in the past.

Than says that Sarri > Allegri

Has Sarri accomplished more? I am confused? :shifty:
 
May 23, 2013
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You seem to be contradicting yourself. You say Allegri had Chiellini available so that was the main reason we were better but then at the same time your main criticism is that he got knocked out by Ajax when Chiellini didn't play.

The Benatia issue could have been easily resolved with a proper transfer strategy and backs up the point that when we were knocked out by Ajax the team was weak in defence and had far less options in the squad.

You defend Sarri but say his specialty isn't defending. You can't just excuse a manager that you are trying to defend from one of the key parts of the game. Especially since our attack is toothless and scoring less than last year. If the rest of our game had even a hint of cohesion and fluidity you could be more forgiving of our defensive shambles but it isn't.

Khedira and Matuidi were both useful in their day. Those days are long gone, I would comfortably choose a current Ramsey and Rabiot over last season's Khedira and Matuidi.

"If" we end up on top in Serie A. That is the key phrase. Would we be having the same doubts under Allegri this season? We all know the answer to that.
When I said "we had a fully fit Chiellini at our disposal" I meant for the Serie A campaign. Which is why I mentioned Napoli not hitting 90 points.

Benatia issue could've been solved with a proper transfer strategy, but who is there to sign in the winter? And why let it get to that point in the first place. You have a class defender who came off a good season and you instantly drop him for a very shaky Bonucci? That would piss off any defender and is not the proper way to go about things.

Your right every other facet of the team isn't functioning as well as it should. I was just giving a bit more context as to why the defense is performing poorly compared to that of recent years. But at the few points in which the team has ticked (Inter and Cagliari being examples), I've liked what has been on display. And for that I'd like to give Sarri support and time before throwing him under the bus, especially when he is top of the league.
 
May 23, 2013
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"If" we end up on top in Serie A. That is the key phrase. Would we be having the same doubts under Allegri this season? We all know the answer to that.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. We struggled to win the league just two seasons ago against a weaker Sarri's Napoli who choked in the end.

I'd like to see how good Allegri's team would be having no Chiello and no world class replacement for him in the starting XI.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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:tup:

He says that Khedira and Matuidi > Ramsey and Rabiot because they have accomplished more in the past.

Than says that Sarri > Allegri

Has Sarri accomplished more? I am confused? :shifty:
sarri didn't lose to ajax, that's the point. no matter that allegri fucking won every single italian competition for 4 years and first got eliminated by a lesser team after 4,5 seasons. so you know, point is that at least sarri didn't lose to ajax!!!11!!!1! and won an europa league, just like some other coaching giants such as malesani, juande ramos, sanches flores and houllier. we learned recently that sarri even made ronaldo the beast he is!

and who cares that he was beaten 4-0 by mighty bournemout, finished behind shakhtar in a cl group and lost to teams like leipzig or villarreal.
 

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