Maurizio Sarri (96 Viewers)

lgorTudor

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If he wins the double and doesn't go out to the CL against underdogs (like Allegri last season), then he would have a very good first season.
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Well for his first season the standards should be to do better than the last season of his predecessor. After this season it should always be to win the league and make it to atleast the semis of the CL for the season to be passable. Just as it generally was for Allegri.

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And just to be a bit more clear. By underdog I mean any team apart from Liverpool, PSG, Real or City.
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Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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I can see Pep going back to Barca. Barca will lose league to Zidane and crash out before final again in CL. They also have some presidental elections going on there. They have lost their identity and Pep is the man to revival them also his last chance to coach Messi who is not getting younger.

We will end up with Inzaghi probably.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Liverpool seem to do ok with an unspectacular midfield. Plus the midfield when we last got to the CL final wasn't that great either.

I agree that it is an area of weakness but I think it is overblown. We still have decent midfield players, the team is massively dysfunctional though and completely exposes their weaknesses. Maybe we should play a system that limits their flaws.
It’s waaay overblown. It’s not a Lecce midfield. When you’re dominated by a Verona side who’s coming from a tough midweek match you surely have bigger problems. Nobody can say our midfield personnel are worse than Milan and Verona with a straight face.

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If he wins the double and doesn't go out to the CL against underdogs (like Allegri last season), then he would have a very good first season.
Gee why set the bar that high? I’d say since league is strong, even being runner up in Serie A is good for first season. Lazio has a very good midfield too, so even a third is not half bad. We have to be realistic.
 
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Speaking of Liverpool, how bad was klopp that first season, how many here would be patient enough to see his work take shape
Different circumstances and context with Juventus though.

Liverpool had no where to go but up at that time. They hadn’t had any level of success since they beat Milan really.

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It was not an endorsement of sarri but everyone here made fun of klopp when he first started at pool, let's face people here want omelets without breaking any eggs
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Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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I've been watching Emre Can at Dortmund, he's been very good so far playing a high intensity attacking game. Looks versatile, I'd get him to replace Matuidi and Khedira....oh wait.
Far too limited for our system and any system we have played in years. I think he would do a good job as a DM but we don't play with one.

I'm cautious about how good players look in the Bundesliga, I don't think the standard is as high and it is made out.
 

Vlad

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The problem is instead of struggling at beginning and gradually improving as the season goes by, players adapting to different methods, etc, after half a year we are actually looking a lot worse now than few months ago. Where was Liverpool when Klopp took them over? Sarri inherited a winning team in comparison and considering the age of several of our top players, we have no time to wait.
 

Gep

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Jun 12, 2005
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The problem is instead of struggling at beginning and gradually improving as the season goes by, players adapting to different methods, etc, after half a year we are actually looking a lot worse now than few months ago. Where was Liverpool when Klopp took them over? Sarri inherited a winning team in comparison and considering the age of several of our top players, we have no time to wait.
Yes he inherited a load of chess players for his style.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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It was not an endorsement of sarri but everyone here made fun of klopp when he first started at pool, let's face people here want omelets without breaking any eggs
Truer words couldn't have been said. But I still think Klopp is levels above Sarri, not only as a tactician but as a motivator which to is even more important than the former. He manages to get his squad into such a state of mind that they'd go to war for him. Same reason why I like Pep.

I don't think Sarri is capable of that for this current team, not even in the long run.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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It was not an endorsement of sarri but everyone here made fun of klopp when he first started at pool, let's face people here want omelets without breaking any eggs
It’s hard to answer that question since we have the benefit of the hindsight. But there were less at stake at pool for Klopp given that they haven’t won the league for many years. We’re not in the same situation. Klopp’s first season also had some memorable performances like overturning a 3-1 deficit to beat Dortmund 3-4 in EL, so there was something to be hopeful for if you were a pool fan.
 

s4tch

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Truer words couldn't have been said. But I still think Klopp is levels above Sarri, not only as a tactician but as a motivator which to is even more important than the former. He manages to get his squad into such a state of mind that they'd go to war for him. Same reason why I like Pep.

I don't think Sarri is capable of that for this current team, not even in the long run.
if i get gordo's point right, he means that sarri should have the opportunity to build a team for his own football.

thing is that's not how juventus operates, and i doubt the club would change its m.o. because of any coach, let alone sarri. we work with market opportunities, freebies, potential capital gain making assets (besides some rare cases like cr/higuain), and the club rarely lets the coach decide on any mercato related question. it's not like i prefer our methods, but it is what it is.

and that's probably why a flexible coach worked for this management the best so far. there's no absolute scale for coaches, i still think conte is more influential than allegri. but with conte sticking to his own ideas too much, allegri was a much better fit. sarri is known to be a particularly stubborn person, and he'll never change how the club works, so it's a pointless experiment on the long run. i still hope he wins at least a scudetto for us. he absolutely has the squad for it.
 
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Im not convinced he will make us a better team this year or in 3 years with full faith behind him but we wont know in 6 months. You have to break basic traits of a team that knows eachothers movements. Now the same players are there but movements are changing as well as shape and then throwing a bunch of injuries.
 

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“Juventus were my favourites before the season started but obviously I don’t watch Italian football enough because I cannot work out why they are not 10 points ahead at the top of Serie A,” Klopp told The Guardian newspaper.


“They have the biggest squad I have ever seen in my life; quality players too, it’s crazy.

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“Juventus were my favourites before the season started but obviously I don’t watch Italian football enough because I cannot work out why they are not 10 points ahead at the top of Serie A,” Klopp told The Guardian newspaper.


“They have the biggest squad I have ever seen in my life; quality players too, it’s crazy.

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Klopp throwing shade at Sarri :lol:
 

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