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Juve-Fan-Iraq

Senior Member
Oct 7, 2023
2,340
I think that’s what it is mainly all about, or to at least force his hand to reach a more ‘moderate’ settlement, which is rather surprisingly smart from our management as we really seem to have the upper hand on this one.
The whole thing must have felt like blessing from the skies for management. Allegri exploding timed with refs having a pathetic display coupled with a victory at the coppa, and verbal argument with the the newspaper that has been pushing to have him fired. What a movie plot LOL...
 

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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
So let me get this straight, a series of disappointing performances, results, exits and records for three straight seasons did not warrant a suck. On the other hand complaining about shitty refereeing and raging as a reaction to a dickhead deliberately trying to make us lose a finql deserves a sack.

Add to that the club apologising for the behaviour to everyone. Did they apologise for winning Coppa yet?

Add to that, not a single word about the blatant attempts from Maresca for the entire 90 minutes...

Well fuck Giuntoli and those who hired him and those working with him. A bunch of cucks all of them.

As for Allegri he should have been sacked way back. No matter how much he tarnished his image in the performances he tortured us with he will still be a club legend.

Fuck Giuntoli!
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
He was also very clever to drag ultras and fans into this and creating a very cult hero-ish narrative about him. No surprise so many fans fell for it. It is very similar to when Mourinho got Union fans by his side before he was about to get sacked.

In his mind, he probably believes he's done an amazing job over the course of his tenure and that's ultimately been his downfall. His stubbornness and refusal to admit that his ideas are outdated.

Budget and plusvalenzagate are convenient excuses to hide behind JJ playing like a battered relegation threatened team without no plan or purpose.
It’s so similar to Mourinho it’s scary. There is a Brazilian coach from back in the day who’s just as stubborn and egotistical as those two. His name is Luxemburgo.

He was so far ahead of everybody else in the late 90’s to early 00’s. He had an amazing system with a fast build up attack that was a joy to watch. He did so well he ended up managing Real Madrid I think around 04 or 05 but got sacked after just one season because his ideas got found out quickly.

Went back to Brazil, never managed in Europe again and to this day still claims he’s the best and Brazilian coaches are just as good when clearly he’s outdated and out of touch with reality. It’s the Brazilian Mourinho and I guess now the Brazilian Allegri.

@PedroFlu can confirm
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
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The whole thing must have felt like blessing from the skies for management. Allegri exploding timed with refs having a pathetic display coupled with a victory at the coppa, and verbal argument with the the newspaper that has been pushing to have him fired. What a movie plot LOL...
Yup, gave them all the grounds they’ve been looking for, not even planned, just Allegri shooting himself in the foot by going crazy and taking it too far with the Vaciago scuffle and publicly disrespecting his superior Giuntoli during the Coppa celebrations, if he would’ve stopped at the VAR/Rocchi bashing i think he was likely still in for the full last paycheck, now however it’s going to be interesting to see how it pans out as the board sure seem to have the upper hand.
 

Juve-Fan-Iraq

Senior Member
Oct 7, 2023
2,340
Yup, gave them all the grounds they’ve been looking for, not even planned, just Allegri shooting himself in the foot by taking it too far with the Vaciago scuffle and publicly disrespecting his superior Giuntoli during the Coppa celebrations, if he would’ve stopped at the VAR/Rocchi bashing i think he was likely still in for the full last paycheck, now however it’s going to be interesting to see how it pans out as the board sure seem to have the upper hand.
Agreed. We gotta move on from this. New coach, new plans (hopefully), and maybe a winning cycle. I have to say Giuntoli has his work cut out for him this summer and if he doesn't deliver, I won't be surprised if be gets the can too..
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
16,818
It’s so similar to Mourinho it’s scary. There is a Brazilian coach from back in the day who’s just as stubborn and egotistical as those two. His name is Luxemburgo.

He was so far ahead of everybody else in the late 90’s to early 00’s. He had an amazing system with a fast build up attack that was a joy to watch. He did so well he ended up managing Real Madrid I think around 04 or 05 but got sacked after just one season because his ideas got found out quickly.

Went back to Brazil, never managed in Europe again and to this day still claims he’s the best and Brazilian coaches are just as good when clearly he’s outdated and out of touch with reality. It’s the Brazilian Mourinho and I guess now the Brazilian Allegri.

@PedroFlu can confirm
I just checked his Wikipedia. He has had 38 managerial appointments throughout his career. I don’t think ever I’ve ever seen a bigger list than this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderlei_Luxemburgo
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,286
I think that’s what it is mainly all about, or to at least force his hand to reach a more ‘moderate’ settlement, which is rather surprisingly smart from our management as we really seem to have the upper hand on this one.
Unless Max had a DUI or some illegal charge against him didn't think it would be possible to not pay him the full amount owed for next year. Now my only experiences comes from US sports and the liberal backing of unions etc etc that always seem to have players/coaches back even if they are charged with an offense.

Hopefully what you say does happen and reduced "moderate" settlement occurs which I always thought the fairest way to proceed. Who knows maybe Juve higher-ups tell Max they will do everything possible to squash the story of Max's behavior putting him in a better light if he takes less money. Or if not, they proceed like you stated with leverage but hard-ball style making Max getting another job more difficult (though no doubt will easily happen) but more importantly for Max having to accept a lesser salary.

IMO depends who Max has representing him if he goes that way vs Juve representatives. Hopefully this gets settled amicably.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
I just checked his Wikipedia. He has had 38 managerial appointments throughout his career. I don’t think ever I’ve ever seen a bigger list than this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderlei_Luxemburgo
Is he the one with a revolutionary rectangle shape formation 4-2-2-2?

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“Will Max Allegri take the money corresponding to his last year of contract? Possible, maybe even probable but attention, I understand that an important club, without a coach, received a call mid-morning from Allegri's representatives saying: "Look, Max is now free, are you interested?" It is not an Arab club, but one that will play next season ChampionsLeague” (@NicoSchira)
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,905
Is he the one with a revolutionary rectangle shape formation 4-2-2-2?

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“Will Max Allegri take the money corresponding to his last year of contract? Possible, maybe even probable but attention, I understand that an important club, without a coach, received a call mid-morning from Allegri's representatives saying: "Look, Max is now free, are you interested?" It is not an Arab club, but one that will play next season ChampionsLeague” (@NicoSchira)
@BayernFan :tuttosport:
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
I just checked his Wikipedia. He has had 38 managerial appointments throughout his career. I don’t think ever I’ve ever seen a bigger list than this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderlei_Luxemburgo
He was great on his day. Very innovative, probably one of the first to apply a modern mentality to Brazilian football. His mistake was going straight to Madrid. Could’ve earned some European experience at a smaller club and work his way up. Expectations were just too high. As with anything in life if you don’t adapt you get left behind so similar to our own Mister.

btw I think one of the reasons he managed so many clubs is that in Brazil it’s very common to get the boot after just a few bad results. Some coaches will manage 3 different clubs in the same season. Not sure if this is still true but it used to be that way.
 

Juve-Fan-Iraq

Senior Member
Oct 7, 2023
2,340
Is he the one with a revolutionary rectangle shape formation 4-2-2-2?

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“Will Max Allegri take the money corresponding to his last year of contract? Possible, maybe even probable but attention, I understand that an important club, without a coach, received a call mid-morning from Allegri's representatives saying: "Look, Max is now free, are you interested?" It is not an Arab club, but one that will play next season ChampionsLeague” (@NicoSchira)
Bologna?
 

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