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Massimiliano Allegri won’t be pressured into picking Paulo Dybala for Juventus - “it’s not my problem if they paid €40m.”
“I’ll explain this for the second time,” Allegri sighed in his pre-Sassuolo Press conference.
“I’ve said it’s not my problem if they paid €40m, because a Coach doesn’t pick the 11 for his team because one cost €40m and the other cost €3m.
“If the one who they paid €3m for plays better or is more useful than the one who cost €40m… I think the Coach is paid to get results.
“At the end of the game, if one player has played or another has played, it doesn’t change a thing. In the end, Juventus just have to get results. That’s what I’m here for.
“Dybala is a player who has very good quality, but who is also a young lad and has to improve, and has to change roles. And he can become a great player, on that I agree.
“Now we’re talking about intentions, he could play two or three games, he could play in the national team… let’s just take it one game at a time.
“He has to be managed, just as [Alvaro] Morata has to be managed, [Paul] Pogba has to be managed, [Giorgio] Chiellini has to be managed, [Leonardo] Bonucci has to be managed, [Gigi] Buffon has to be managed…
“I think a few weeks ago it was the same stuff: [Juan] Cuadrado, Cuadrado, Cuadrado, Cuadrado… It was as though Juventus couldn’t play without Cuadrado, or Cuadrado would be taken away.
“If he played every game from now until May 16, he’d be taken away in an ambulance. So I have to be able, with a bit of luck, to manage the players.
“That’s what I’m here for, that’s why I started doing this job, and that’s what Coaches are paid to do.”
“I’ll explain this for the second time,” Allegri sighed in his pre-Sassuolo Press conference.
“I’ve said it’s not my problem if they paid €40m, because a Coach doesn’t pick the 11 for his team because one cost €40m and the other cost €3m.
“If the one who they paid €3m for plays better or is more useful than the one who cost €40m… I think the Coach is paid to get results.
“At the end of the game, if one player has played or another has played, it doesn’t change a thing. In the end, Juventus just have to get results. That’s what I’m here for.
“Dybala is a player who has very good quality, but who is also a young lad and has to improve, and has to change roles. And he can become a great player, on that I agree.
“Now we’re talking about intentions, he could play two or three games, he could play in the national team… let’s just take it one game at a time.
“He has to be managed, just as [Alvaro] Morata has to be managed, [Paul] Pogba has to be managed, [Giorgio] Chiellini has to be managed, [Leonardo] Bonucci has to be managed, [Gigi] Buffon has to be managed…
“I think a few weeks ago it was the same stuff: [Juan] Cuadrado, Cuadrado, Cuadrado, Cuadrado… It was as though Juventus couldn’t play without Cuadrado, or Cuadrado would be taken away.
“If he played every game from now until May 16, he’d be taken away in an ambulance. So I have to be able, with a bit of luck, to manage the players.
“That’s what I’m here for, that’s why I started doing this job, and that’s what Coaches are paid to do.”
IMO the team needs more balance, 433 won't cut it. Pogba has too many defensive duties, we have to play a very defensive RB, and I feel with Khedira as a box-to-box we are exposed. Cuadrado is clearly overloaded with almost every offensive play going throught him, and having to run like a madman to defend.
I haven't watched last game, but I like the idea of playing a 41212 with Pogba playing in a more advanced position.
We need balance. More attacking from the left, so Sandro should get more opportunities. More protection in the middle. More space to Pogba. A more dynamic RB, who can overlap and offer attacking from the right.
I think Pogba has every little thing needed to be a great AM, give him a roaming free role in front of the midfield trio, along with Dybala. Both take turns at the center of the pitch and falling to the sides.
Also I really like the idea of making Sturaro a part time RB. He's got the stamina, he's very quick, his defending is awesome, his touch is decent. I'm sure he could be at least at the same level of Licht. Padoin is underwhelming, Caceres shouldn't be counted on anymore.
I like Lemina, I think it would be great if we found space for him as a DM, with Marchisio as a box-to-box CM. I really think Lemina can develop into a world class DM.
I know taking Cuadrado out of the lineup is kind of nuts, but I'd rather see a more balanced scheme who is not dependant on one player like we are on him right now.
The team I'd like to see, with roles and positions more defined:
------------------Buffon
Sturaro----Bonucci------Chiellini------Alex Sandro
------------------Lemina
--------Marchisio---------Khedira
------------------Pogba
----------Dybala
-----------------------Morata
If both fullbacks overlap, with Marchisio and Khedira playing as box-to-box, and Pogba and Dybala can understand each other and take turns going through flanks, also with Morata's movement, that's a team that should be more solid and shouldn't miss creativity/width.
Neto, Licht, Barzagli, Rugani, Evra, Asamoah, Hernanes, Pereyra, Cuadrado, Mandzukic, Zaza, is a great bench.
If this formation doesn't work for lack of offense, just sub Lemina for Cuadrado.
Without the ball:
---------------Marchisio
-----Cuadrado-----------Khedira
-----------------Pogba
----------Dybala
-----------------------Morata
With the ball:
-------------Marchisio
-------Khedira--------Pogba
----Cuadrado
---------------Dybala
-------------------Morata
But I think we need to improve the balance of the team.
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He's doing it poorly then.
Last season, Llorente was in horrendous form and the guy kept him almost till january as a starter. Morata in 5 min would do more than Llorente in a game.
It's not like Morata fit well because of Allegri's management. The guy was screaming a starting place a long time ago. Allegri took too much time to start him, but results came anyway. He actually mismanaged on the point, refusing to let production on the pitch speak for itself, but results came despite of that.
Pogba started his first year was a backup, and a great one. Like any coach would've done, since our 532 was impossible to change and we had Pirlo - Marchisio - Vidal to play.
In the second year, Marchisio got seriously injured. Pogba stepped in and he was the responsible for becoming a starter, displaying his great talent. It's not like Conte's management was decisive. He just did what was blatantly obvious and in front of everyone to see.
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What Allegri is doing with Dybala is simply stupid. You don't bench the guy because you know he's young and a newcomer. His production has absolutely got him a place in the team, and Allegri is doing the opposite of what he talks about. He's benching the guy because of theoretical circunstances (in this case not the price, but the age), ignoring his much better production than anybody else at that position, including Morata, who is bad as a SS.
Just be humble, assume to yourself your mistake, correct it and move on. If he benches Dybala again, only to misplace Morata, I'll lose it.
I haven't watched last game, but I like the idea of playing a 41212 with Pogba playing in a more advanced position.
We need balance. More attacking from the left, so Sandro should get more opportunities. More protection in the middle. More space to Pogba. A more dynamic RB, who can overlap and offer attacking from the right.
I think Pogba has every little thing needed to be a great AM, give him a roaming free role in front of the midfield trio, along with Dybala. Both take turns at the center of the pitch and falling to the sides.
Also I really like the idea of making Sturaro a part time RB. He's got the stamina, he's very quick, his defending is awesome, his touch is decent. I'm sure he could be at least at the same level of Licht. Padoin is underwhelming, Caceres shouldn't be counted on anymore.
I like Lemina, I think it would be great if we found space for him as a DM, with Marchisio as a box-to-box CM. I really think Lemina can develop into a world class DM.
I know taking Cuadrado out of the lineup is kind of nuts, but I'd rather see a more balanced scheme who is not dependant on one player like we are on him right now.
The team I'd like to see, with roles and positions more defined:
------------------Buffon
Sturaro----Bonucci------Chiellini------Alex Sandro
------------------Lemina
--------Marchisio---------Khedira
------------------Pogba
----------Dybala
-----------------------Morata
If both fullbacks overlap, with Marchisio and Khedira playing as box-to-box, and Pogba and Dybala can understand each other and take turns going through flanks, also with Morata's movement, that's a team that should be more solid and shouldn't miss creativity/width.
Neto, Licht, Barzagli, Rugani, Evra, Asamoah, Hernanes, Pereyra, Cuadrado, Mandzukic, Zaza, is a great bench.
If this formation doesn't work for lack of offense, just sub Lemina for Cuadrado.
Without the ball:
---------------Marchisio
-----Cuadrado-----------Khedira
-----------------Pogba
----------Dybala
-----------------------Morata
With the ball:
-------------Marchisio
-------Khedira--------Pogba
----Cuadrado
---------------Dybala
-------------------Morata
But I think we need to improve the balance of the team.
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He's doing it poorly then.
Last season, Llorente was in horrendous form and the guy kept him almost till january as a starter. Morata in 5 min would do more than Llorente in a game.
It's not like Morata fit well because of Allegri's management. The guy was screaming a starting place a long time ago. Allegri took too much time to start him, but results came anyway. He actually mismanaged on the point, refusing to let production on the pitch speak for itself, but results came despite of that.
Pogba started his first year was a backup, and a great one. Like any coach would've done, since our 532 was impossible to change and we had Pirlo - Marchisio - Vidal to play.
In the second year, Marchisio got seriously injured. Pogba stepped in and he was the responsible for becoming a starter, displaying his great talent. It's not like Conte's management was decisive. He just did what was blatantly obvious and in front of everyone to see.
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What Allegri is doing with Dybala is simply stupid. You don't bench the guy because you know he's young and a newcomer. His production has absolutely got him a place in the team, and Allegri is doing the opposite of what he talks about. He's benching the guy because of theoretical circunstances (in this case not the price, but the age), ignoring his much better production than anybody else at that position, including Morata, who is bad as a SS.
Just be humble, assume to yourself your mistake, correct it and move on. If he benches Dybala again, only to misplace Morata, I'll lose it.
He probably doesn't think Dybala is as good as many here do, at least right now. His end product for me warrants a key inclusion, but I agree with Allegri on some of his general play, especially how he holds the ball receiving it to feet. When he gets a chance to turn with the ball obviously it's a different story altogether.
As noted before, there is no direct replacement for him, although you can consider Cuadrado that with a change of formation.
The other point is that Dybala considers himself a main striker, whereas Allegri sees him between the lines, so if Allegri feels he is not getting what he wants from that role then this is why he is rotated in and out of the team. Dybala seems to see himself more along the lines of Agüero, whereas Allegri is thinking more like Messi.
I also agree with Allegri on not burning the player out, and although that is a far longer term issue than what is worth talking about in October, it is and will be an issue with his inclusion in the Argentina team. And if you don't believe that then just look at Pereyra and the comments Allegri made about him. Really do we need to be talking flippantly about the threat of players getting injured this season? Come on now.
And the last thing I agree with him on is the questioning of why a €40m player isn't always starting. That is a question he faces whenever he doesn't start and honestly I'd be just as sick answering it. The price doesn't warrant inclusion whatsoever, what he does on the pitch does, and he's doing fine.
A final thing I'd add is something Nedved said today about the fee we paid for him (€41m) "making his legs feel heavier" when he joined from Lazio. Nedved had won many things and was 29 when he joined us, the pressure here is intense and he had a pretty mixed first season surrounded by champions. Dybala is 21, has done nothing, and is expected to be a champion to replace Tevez, so the club will look to take him out of the firing line every now and then.
As noted before, there is no direct replacement for him, although you can consider Cuadrado that with a change of formation.
The other point is that Dybala considers himself a main striker, whereas Allegri sees him between the lines, so if Allegri feels he is not getting what he wants from that role then this is why he is rotated in and out of the team. Dybala seems to see himself more along the lines of Agüero, whereas Allegri is thinking more like Messi.
I also agree with Allegri on not burning the player out, and although that is a far longer term issue than what is worth talking about in October, it is and will be an issue with his inclusion in the Argentina team. And if you don't believe that then just look at Pereyra and the comments Allegri made about him. Really do we need to be talking flippantly about the threat of players getting injured this season? Come on now.
And the last thing I agree with him on is the questioning of why a €40m player isn't always starting. That is a question he faces whenever he doesn't start and honestly I'd be just as sick answering it. The price doesn't warrant inclusion whatsoever, what he does on the pitch does, and he's doing fine.
A final thing I'd add is something Nedved said today about the fee we paid for him (€41m) "making his legs feel heavier" when he joined from Lazio. Nedved had won many things and was 29 when he joined us, the pressure here is intense and he had a pretty mixed first season surrounded by champions. Dybala is 21, has done nothing, and is expected to be a champion to replace Tevez, so the club will look to take him out of the firing line every now and then.
Even though Dybala may see himself as a CF, he clearly can play as a SS, there's not much to be done here. And he clearly can't be a winger.
What I expect from Allegri is that he establishes a few premisses to solidify the team, it's taking too long, and the league will be gone when he finally finds it.
First premisse: who is our most talented player? Pogba. So you make the team around him, and play him at the most suited position. That would be of a CM with freedom to create. That's not happening with Dybala, Cuadrado and Morata in front of him.
Second premisse: we play with a CF, we have 3 CFs, and the best of them is Morata, who is not a SS or winger. So Morata is our starting CF.
Third premisse: If Pogba needs freedom and can't have it in a 433, then we won't play 2 wingers. It means will play an SS, and the best is Dybala.
To me, based on these 3 premisses, it is clear: Dybala-Morata is our front duo. We should play with these 2 guys as main strikers, that's pretty clear.
Now we have the AM problem, that couldn't be solved. IMO Pereyra did just fine last year, he was a big factor, specially in CL. So I'd pick him as a starting AM. Allegri must simplify things.
4th premisse: Cuadrado is one of the best players of the team. But Pogba is better. So if Cuadrado is going to play, he will have to adapt to being a CM. Box-to-box, eventually as a winger. If it doesn't work, bench him.
5th premisse: we need more balance - more attacking from the left. Alex Sandro should be a starter.
6th premisse: balance is good. An overlapping RB also takes pressure away from Cuadrado. Sturaro has the tools, I'd pick him.
So with everybody healthy this would be my first team option, a 41212, with Cuadrado in a more conservative role as a box-to-box CM:
Buffon - Sturaro, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro - Marchisio - Cuadrado, Pogba - Pereyra - Dybala, Morata.
If Cuadrado doesn't adapt, replace him for Khedira.
352 with Sandro-Cuadrado, Dybala-Morata could work pretty well too.
But now that Pereyra is gone, I'd like to see another try with Pogba as an AM, with 3 guys behind him on the midfield, only Dybala and Morata upfront. I think this would be the ideal scheme if we have 2 overlapping full backs (Sandro and Sturaro). That would be the team I'd play next game. Lemina DM, Marchisio-Khedira CMs.
What I expect from Allegri is that he establishes a few premisses to solidify the team, it's taking too long, and the league will be gone when he finally finds it.
First premisse: who is our most talented player? Pogba. So you make the team around him, and play him at the most suited position. That would be of a CM with freedom to create. That's not happening with Dybala, Cuadrado and Morata in front of him.
Second premisse: we play with a CF, we have 3 CFs, and the best of them is Morata, who is not a SS or winger. So Morata is our starting CF.
Third premisse: If Pogba needs freedom and can't have it in a 433, then we won't play 2 wingers. It means will play an SS, and the best is Dybala.
To me, based on these 3 premisses, it is clear: Dybala-Morata is our front duo. We should play with these 2 guys as main strikers, that's pretty clear.
Now we have the AM problem, that couldn't be solved. IMO Pereyra did just fine last year, he was a big factor, specially in CL. So I'd pick him as a starting AM. Allegri must simplify things.
4th premisse: Cuadrado is one of the best players of the team. But Pogba is better. So if Cuadrado is going to play, he will have to adapt to being a CM. Box-to-box, eventually as a winger. If it doesn't work, bench him.
5th premisse: we need more balance - more attacking from the left. Alex Sandro should be a starter.
6th premisse: balance is good. An overlapping RB also takes pressure away from Cuadrado. Sturaro has the tools, I'd pick him.
So with everybody healthy this would be my first team option, a 41212, with Cuadrado in a more conservative role as a box-to-box CM:
Buffon - Sturaro, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro - Marchisio - Cuadrado, Pogba - Pereyra - Dybala, Morata.
If Cuadrado doesn't adapt, replace him for Khedira.
352 with Sandro-Cuadrado, Dybala-Morata could work pretty well too.
But now that Pereyra is gone, I'd like to see another try with Pogba as an AM, with 3 guys behind him on the midfield, only Dybala and Morata upfront. I think this would be the ideal scheme if we have 2 overlapping full backs (Sandro and Sturaro). That would be the team I'd play next game. Lemina DM, Marchisio-Khedira CMs.
After posting for 2 hours, I finally came to the conclusion that with all the players available, 4312 is the way to go with Pereyra-Dybala-Morata; and with Pereyra out, Cuadrado should be in, and the best formation for him is 352, with Alex Sandro on the other side.
Just keep it like this for a while, Allegri.
Just keep it like this for a while, Allegri.
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Your comments about morata and the llorente-allegri situation are pretty much spot on.
WE need to remember that he finally decided to ditch llorente and the 352 when we were balls tot he walls in the 3rd home game against olympiacos and on the verge of elimination. Why he had to wait until then to do the changes..when the team was screaming for them since weeks before. Theres no surprise that our season took a U turn after that change.
The dybala siatuation is similar....but this time allegri seems to be more stubborn and bitter. Maybe because what went on in the summer with the treq situation?. Whats the problem with dyaba and his "role"?. Dyabala said in the first days of preseason that he was ready to play any attacking role that was needed..and he doesnt seem to me like the balotelli type of guy who is always moaning.
I just think that Allegri is eing stuborn and doesnt want to look bad in front of everyone. Pretty dumb to be honest.
He will wait until we are in another do or die situation again?.... this time we can pay dearly. In fact...we are already suffering from it.
It seems. This comments are definitely not positive about him...and while this comments seems rather casual...they will continue pilling up until it could turn into a negative situation.
This worries me.
Your comments about morata and the llorente-allegri situation are pretty much spot on.
WE need to remember that he finally decided to ditch llorente and the 352 when we were balls tot he walls in the 3rd home game against olympiacos and on the verge of elimination. Why he had to wait until then to do the changes..when the team was screaming for them since weeks before. Theres no surprise that our season took a U turn after that change.
The dybala siatuation is similar....but this time allegri seems to be more stubborn and bitter. Maybe because what went on in the summer with the treq situation?. Whats the problem with dyaba and his "role"?. Dyabala said in the first days of preseason that he was ready to play any attacking role that was needed..and he doesnt seem to me like the balotelli type of guy who is always moaning.
I just think that Allegri is eing stuborn and doesnt want to look bad in front of everyone. Pretty dumb to be honest.
He will wait until we are in another do or die situation again?.... this time we can pay dearly. In fact...we are already suffering from it.
It seems. This comments are definitely not positive about him...and while this comments seems rather casual...they will continue pilling up until it could turn into a negative situation.
This worries me.
