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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
It really doesn't matter if he was resting Dybala for CL midweek... The point is that it is incredibly stupid considering how big a match this was, and our current position in the Serie A table. Even more so, when seeing from the very start that Dybala's creative presence and dropping deep to link midfield to attack was exactly the thing needed in this match. Not Zaza's unskilled, try-hard style that suits mid-table sides.

Allegri fucked up badly with his decisions today. He deplores that we only have 9 goals from 8 serie A matches, but his own stupid decisions are a major part of causing this.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,253
Allegri broke us in serie A, we just lost the plot and have no belief/confidence anymore when we play in italy, just look at morata how he took that shot that hit the post
I dont understand how we seem to simply change face in Italy, I really can't understand at all!

Hopefully we'll bounce back....or at least secure next seasons CL campaign by winning this one :p
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,616
It's become obvious to me, that Allegri was riding of Conte's team. He's improved it last year, and gave it a bit more edge, but now that he has to do something of his own and he most certainly does have the necessary tools to make $#@! work, he is simply $#@!ting the bed and seems simply clueless. Sure loosing Vidal and Tevez is horrible, but now you've got 4 great offensive players that offer a multitude of skill set in Mandzo, Morata, Dybala and Cuadrado, he's got Khedira, Kwadwo and Lemima to cover up the huge gap that Vidal left, and he's even got that LB we've been all dying for.

The coach has no excuses, can't blame nobody but him. Sure Marotta sold 2 of our best players, but it's not as if he left him hanging with no replacements at all. Allegri has some work to do, or he should gtfo here.



Also offer Barca $#@!ing pogs+30mil for neymar already!
Morata was already here. He replaced llorente and Matri with Manzukic and zaza which is a vast improvement in depth not the first 11.

He replaced Tevez with dybala which is a vast decrease in quality for a few years atleast. Why we flexed the wallet on someone who will be a replacement for Tevez in a few years is beyond me. Still no replacement for him though.

The attack thus improved its bench but the starting 11 diminished by the difference between Tevez and Dybala which is substantial. Thats a decrease in one position.

Vidal has been replaced my Khedira and Lemina. But Vidal barely features as box to box CM last year the one that started was staruro as ball winner or marchisio as box to box. Khedira is as good as marchisio as box to box while lemina is maybe on par with staruro as ball winner. So for that position we are about the same.

Pirlo or marchisio played as distributor last year. We did not replace Pirlo and so far this season marchisio barely played. If marchisio is always fit then we are the same but since he is not then we have to consider Hernanes the replacement regista for Pirlo. Thats a significant decrease in quality. So in short the regista CM is the same if marchisio is fit or worse if he isnt. Thats a potential decrease in quality in another position.

Sandro is an improvement over Padoin obviously but both are bench players for Evra. So in Lb we are better at the bench but the same starting 11.

Licht has heart problems, thats a decrease in Rb. thats a 3rd weakening in starting 11.

Caudrado is a bonus players replacing no one so thats an magic card that he didnt have before.

The squad has changed the formation because of injuries and the introduction of Cuadrado. Thats bound to make performances worse at least for a while.

Although Allegri has an improved bench (in lb, cb, st and ball winning cm), he has a weaker starting 11. The attack is weakened by Dybala replacing Tevez, the midfield is weakened by hernanes replacing Pirlo (when marchisio is not 100% fit which has been the case so far), and the defense has been weakened by the death of licht. Caudrado as a magic card is an improvement but its at the cost of a switch in formations and having to accommodate atleast 3 new players in the starting 11 which will balance it out. This leaves us with the net loss of the gap between (Tevez and dybala) + Licht + Pirlo.

Allegri doesn't have an easy job at all given the weakening of the starting 11 and all our competitors have improved at the same time. Having said that, we are definitely not 9 points worse than our competitors. We should atleast be their equals in the long run. Marotta didnt manage the market properly but Allegri so far has under-performed using what he has got. We should still finish 1st or 2nd and qualify from the CL group stage. If achieve this then I'd say thats a good season by Allegri.

Next year we should be adding another SS (hopefully a more finished product than Dybala), a very good regista CM to alternate with Marchisio and a RB to replace Licht. 3 good signings and this squad will be set to compete for all titles again if we will play 3-5-2. If we will play a 4-3-1-2 then add a CAM to the mix. If we are moving to a 4-3-3 then we will have to buy 1 winger at least for each side.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
dat pair of juan jesus and santon and we managed to give them as much trouble as fucking atalanta. not only that our man of the match is one of our D's. sums it all up.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
Personally i think Allegri went for a draw, and rested Dybala for the CL, where topping the group would be massive.


Only logical explenation for this
If this is true it's utter retarded by Allegri. First, because Dybala only starts every other week and being 21 he should be fit enough to play 2 matches a week, second because A win today would have hugely boosted our confidence. And third, look at where we are in the table, we can't afford not to field our best players in such big matches. Inter is only 1 point away from the top, we're almost 10.

Plus, he really didn't play for Argentina, so it's not a matter of being tired from International break. I'll have to agree with @Osman that it has to do with the way he doesn't see Dybala fitting his tactical plan on more than one occasion. I too think it had nothing to do with resting the kid but he just didn't want to start him.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
If this is true it's utter retarded by Allegri. First, because Dybala only starts every other week and being 21 he should be fit enough to play 2 matches a week, second because A win today would have hugely boosted our confidence. And third, look at where we are in the table, we can't afford not to field our best players in such big matches. Inter is only 1 point away from the top, we're almost 10.

Plus, he really didn't play for Argentina, so it's not a matter of being tired from International break. I'll have to agree with @Osman that it has to do with the way he doesn't see Dybala fitting his tactical plan on more than one occasion. I too think it had nothing to do with resting the kid but he just didn't want to start him.
Its the only reason i would accept

Everything else is a tactical failure
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
A lot of comments here would've been the exact opposite if Khedira scored from that shot that hit the post. We would've picked up 3 points away to a full house San Siro with a clean sheet. People would've celebrated the 'brilliance' of Allegri.

One of the things that affected our game was the two early yellows Khedira and Marchisio picked. For only 30 minutes in the first half we were over-played, and not by much. The rest of the game we were in total control against a very, very motivated Inter. All in all, Allegri deserves a 6.5 for this. Decent

Though, I do think Allegri is wrong to start Zaza ahead of Dybala. Also, Marchisio who have been out of the game for a while ahead of Pereyra (who really deserves much more time on the pitch).
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
A lot of comments here would've been the exact opposite if Khedira scored from that shot that hit the post. We would've picked up 3 points away to a full house San Siro with a clean sheet. People would've celebrated the 'brilliance' of Allegri.
I don't work with "ifs" but I'll humor you. No, he wouldn't have been brilliant if that ball went in. I'd still complain about the fact he chose physicality or whatever the fuck was in his mind over quality by benching our most creative striker. and top scorer btw. Zaza should never start big matches when we have better options on the bench, that shouldn't even need to be said.

We were clearly the better team today. Allegri is partly to blame for us not grabbing those 3 so-needed points.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,321
And then takes out Morata for Mandzukic to pair with Zaza :howler: What the hell was that? Was this in England? We pick "psychically strong" players over talent and skill, players that can change a game at anytime? If people thought fielding Morata and Mandzukic made little sense, him and Zaza shouldn't ever be considered.

Big boss fucked up. Plain and simple. Those 3 points were ours.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I woke up feeling yaded on a bad blood pressure, inflammated stomache and a headache from stress, and a hellish morning and noon elevated the issue. While that settled down during the afternoon, its effects are still here.


Yet i'm posting more chill then you, wich is strange
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
today i woke up to a bunch of presents, then a massage, a great dinner, this had to be one of the chillest days of the year, so i really dont know where you are getting all this from
Happy Birthday bro! Hope it was a great one aside from Allegri doing his best to bring ya back down to earth. :p
 

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