Massimiliano Allegri (245 Viewers)
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It bothers me that some of you can't see this, the club can only fight Italy if we have a few like these
1. Became a worldwide angelic and saint like media darling and sensation like Barcelona in the 2010s
2. We have one foot to join another league at any moment of notice
3. Elklown or whoever owned us to become the next Mussolini, Putin, jong un whatever of Italy
4. Brainwash the pope and the leaders of the Islamic world so that they declares Juventus to become the representative of god
If we don't have any of that, forget about fighting FIGC UEFA and FIFA.
1. Became a worldwide angelic and saint like media darling and sensation like Barcelona in the 2010s
2. We have one foot to join another league at any moment of notice
3. Elklown or whoever owned us to become the next Mussolini, Putin, jong un whatever of Italy
4. Brainwash the pope and the leaders of the Islamic world so that they declares Juventus to become the representative of god
If we don't have any of that, forget about fighting FIGC UEFA and FIFA.
Getting to that position definitely does. You wouldn't last a month. These guys don't back down if they don't choose to. But luckily smart guys like him don't think with their testosterone like Tuz addicts.
We may not agree with what he's doing at all but it's certainly because he wants it this way... Look at the way he fired Allegri only just now.
We may not agree with what he's doing at all but it's certainly because he wants it this way... Look at the way he fired Allegri only just now.
That's not what I meant.
I believe the court will understand that we were looking for reasons to get rid of him. The 'just cause' would not be the real reason we fired him and there is the likelihood we even bullied him through the press.
Keep in mind that European labour laws heavily favour the employee and that any judge will know we wanted him gone months before this happened.
Even if we'd win, players and managers everywhere would know we harrass our staff and rather sue than pay.
It's not a smart move.
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I believe the court will understand that we were looking for reasons to get rid of him. The 'just cause' would not be the real reason we fired him and there is the likelihood we even bullied him through the press.
Keep in mind that European labour laws heavily favour the employee and that any judge will know we wanted him gone months before this happened.
Even if we'd win, players and managers everywhere would know we harrass our staff and rather sue than pay.
It's not a smart move.
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Why does it matter how long I'd last? Do I have a degree in business? No but that's not the point, he hasn't ever defended this club yet he's there posing with a napoli scudetto cake last year when the club was being raped by its enemies and yet he sat in silence. Elkanns decision on allegri doesn't show any balls whatsoever, if anything he was probably pressured by Giuntoli to sack him now and worse more it wasn't even elkann that summoned Allegri to sack him, it was bloody scanavino! Yes that bloody accountant. The irony is that Allegri yes that guy that myself and most others here wanted gone for months if not years was the only one defending the club not elkann who instead is now apologising to the figc and gravina!!! So please don't tell me elkann is a smart and ruthless guy because he is anything but.
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Again, not a lawyer, but isn't the main question whether Allegri breached his contract or not? And then if he did and it can be proved, the next question probably is whether rescinding contract is an adequate response to that breach. I understand that the defense would build the case around Allegri's fate being determined months before, but if the facts are there and they can be proved, I don't see why the court would have to consider intent, unless there's reason to believe the club actually manipulated Allegri and pushed him towards this.
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If we punish Allegri's antics on the touchline or post match with the directors I completely agree, that's ridiculous, you could find film for every coach getting emotional on the touchline or yelling at the ref.
However if the altercation with Tuttosport guy went down as the guy says, that's not an everyday situation, that's something not acceptable that Allegri created all by himself.
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If we punish Allegri's antics on the touchline or post match with the directors I completely agree, that's ridiculous, you could find film for every coach getting emotional on the touchline or yelling at the ref.
However if the altercation with Tuttosport guy went down as the guy says, that's not an everyday situation, that's something not acceptable that Allegri created all by himself.
In public, he didn't. Don't know what happens behind the scene and that's not the point. He doesn't decide to, that doesn't mean he doesn't dare to. It's obvious he thinks we should keep a clean shop and behave impeccably for now. Hence the fast sacking of Allegri (which is dumb imo).
And ofc that sacking shows balls. Media said it wasn't Giuntoli but upper management that was pissed. Doesn't fit your agenda, so you wish to ignore, I see. And a CEO delegates, he doesn't execute. You're spinning wheels.
And ofc that sacking shows balls. Media said it wasn't Giuntoli but upper management that was pissed. Doesn't fit your agenda, so you wish to ignore, I see. And a CEO delegates, he doesn't execute. You're spinning wheels.
Intent matters.
Even in cases where it doesn't, it influences judges.
But here it does. Because Juventus would have to make it plausible that this was in fact why they fired him. It doesn't really matter if there's a breach of contract, when all parties involved know that that particular breach would not result in termination in and of itself. You think they'd have fired him if he won the scudetto? They wouldn't have. So there's your reason.
A court case would also open Juventus up to significant risk. Allegri alledges his behaviour was the result of Juventus putting pressure on him through the press. If Juventus don't pay him and he sues, he can use the full extent of the law and subpoena journalists. Those journalists may or may not want to keep their sources confidential, but that's an unknown factor.
And again: lawyers have to look beyond the law. Even if Juventus win this case, it still makes them look bad.
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Even in cases where it doesn't, it influences judges.
But here it does. Because Juventus would have to make it plausible that this was in fact why they fired him. It doesn't really matter if there's a breach of contract, when all parties involved know that that particular breach would not result in termination in and of itself. You think they'd have fired him if he won the scudetto? They wouldn't have. So there's your reason.
A court case would also open Juventus up to significant risk. Allegri alledges his behaviour was the result of Juventus putting pressure on him through the press. If Juventus don't pay him and he sues, he can use the full extent of the law and subpoena journalists. Those journalists may or may not want to keep their sources confidential, but that's an unknown factor.
And again: lawyers have to look beyond the law. Even if Juventus win this case, it still makes them look bad.
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