Motta is actually tactically closer to Conte and Allegri 1.0 than he is to Sarri and Pirlo.
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Juventus would have to make it plausible that this was in fact why they fired him. It doesn't really matter if there's a breach of contract, when all parties involved know that that particular breach would not result in termination in and of itself. You think they'd have fired him if he won the scudetto? They wouldn't have. So there's your reason.
Intent does matter, but I don't quite understand why it's the most important question here, would seem logical to me that the most important questions is whether Allegri breached the contract and whether firing him is a balanced response to the breach. In my head that's first and foremost what has to be examined and not imaginary scenarios like "would you fire the employee if he was outperforming expectations"? There's hardly any way to prove they would have or wouldn't have. But maybe my understanding is lacking here.
A court case would also open Juventus up to significant risk. Allegri alledges his behaviour was the result of Juventus putting pressure on him through the press. If Juventus don't pay him and he sues, he can use the full extent of the law and subpoena journalists. Those journalists may or may not want to keep their sources confidential, but that's an unknown factor.
If club officials did put pressure on Allegri through Tuttosport and other media then intent definitely matters, as it'd seem Juve breached the contract themselves and harassed their employee. I don't think it's very plausible that we did do that, however if we did it's definitely a serious risk and we shouldn't pick a fight in these circumstances.
Intent does matter, but I don't quite understand why it's the most important question here, would seem logical to me that the most important questions is whether Allegri breached the contract and whether firing him is a balanced response to the breach. In my head that's first and foremost what has to be examined and not imaginary scenarios like "would you fire the employee if he was outperforming expectations"? There's hardly any way to prove they would have or wouldn't have. But maybe my understanding is lacking here.
A court case would also open Juventus up to significant risk. Allegri alledges his behaviour was the result of Juventus putting pressure on him through the press. If Juventus don't pay him and he sues, he can use the full extent of the law and subpoena journalists. Those journalists may or may not want to keep their sources confidential, but that's an unknown factor.
If club officials did put pressure on Allegri through Tuttosport and other media then intent definitely matters, as it'd seem Juve breached the contract themselves and harassed their employee. I don't think it's very plausible that we did do that, however if we did it's definitely a serious risk and we shouldn't pick a fight in these circumstances.
For that he should have been fired a year and a half ago. After Monza, after Macabbi, take a pick, but he wasnt. He should have been fired after horrendous run of results in the 2nd part of this season but yet again he wasnt. The club was willing to let him stay until the end of current season despite results. However, If what Allegri is claiming proves to be true, that the club was feeding journalists with inside info, using media to put a pressure on him so he resigns and they dont have to pay up, it paints a different picture. These were not a normal working conditions so they bear responsibility as well for the shit show we have witnessed. It is disgraceful, unworthy of this once great club. I hope this wont go to court and that he will get every cent of his contract. I also hope we will move on with new people at helm.
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The reason why you actually fired him is what matters most. Not the hypothetical question of 'could you have fired him for this?'.
We actually fired Allegri because of the results, not because of whatever went down on Wednesday.
I am almost 100% certain we used the press.
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We actually fired Allegri because of the results, not because of whatever went down on Wednesday.
I am almost 100% certain we used the press.
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What exactly have we leaked to the press about Allegri? He wasn't driven to madness by the board he has been fucking terrible for years. This is exactly what he wanted by doing all of this by the way, to look like the victim. It makes it seem like he can still coach.
I thank him for his first stint but this second one has been disastrous.
I thank him for his first stint but this second one has been disastrous.
In a way it might feel a bit cheap leveraging this situation to probably safe his salary for next year.
He might not have felt supported by the club but let’s not forget he should’ve been fired 5 times already. Financial damage caused with renewing De Sciglio and Sandro, absolute horror football. Glad that it’s over, even better if we safe is wages. Can anyone confirm this?
He might not have felt supported by the club but let’s not forget he should’ve been fired 5 times already. Financial damage caused with renewing De Sciglio and Sandro, absolute horror football. Glad that it’s over, even better if we safe is wages. Can anyone confirm this?
We had stronger position in the Ronaldo case ie no signature in the contract signed yet we have to pay him half of his deferred wages.In Allegri case it is desperate attempt to save money whether it ends up in court only time will tell.
Together with the exoneration, a 5-point letter of disciplinary complaint was delivered to Allegri . A move by Juventus to try to save part of the 18 million gross due to the coach between now and June 2025. Max's lawyers now have 5 days to respond (@NicoSchira)
Together with the exoneration, a 5-point letter of disciplinary complaint was delivered to Allegri . A move by Juventus to try to save part of the 18 million gross due to the coach between now and June 2025. Max's lawyers now have 5 days to respond (@NicoSchira)