You haven't stated how he was undermined though. He can say what he likes, he knows he has underperformed, obviously he is going to try and blame someone else.
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If you were an underperforming employee and you probably know you might get laid off by the end of the quarter, and then one day you suddenly snap at your boss, abuse them, accuse them of doing politics without any evidence, would there be any incentive to keep you anymore?
It was a disciplinary issue but the board would've looked even weaker if they did not take any action in this situation. Just because he's a club legend, that doesn't mean he can go out there and act like a complete moron in public.
It's why guys like Mourinho has such a cult following because he always absolves himself of any criticism and creates a narrative that the entire world is out there to pin him down. No different here.
It was a disciplinary issue but the board would've looked even weaker if they did not take any action in this situation. Just because he's a club legend, that doesn't mean he can go out there and act like a complete moron in public.
It's why guys like Mourinho has such a cult following because he always absolves himself of any criticism and creates a narrative that the entire world is out there to pin him down. No different here.
It was unecceptable and this is why he was fired and should have been a while ago but they didnt pull the trigger. This is why disciplinary issues as a reason are nonsense, more of a pretence and Allegri exploding like this suggests there is more to it. You dont think there were tensions behind the scenes? They didnt try to pressure him into resigning after 2-3 wins in 15 matches? What do you think of our transfer campaigns? What do you think of our BOD failling to defend the club, accepting punishment, VAR manipulations, etc? This directly affects his work. This guy had it enough. Im only disapointed it came to this.
But it's not unreasonable to fire someone and not pay them out the rest of the contract for verbally abusing a journalist and threatening them, not to mention the other stuff.
I don't even think they'll try to not pay him anyway, but rather settle it with a percentage of the rest of the contract. I don't think he'd have a leg to stand on if they did decide to do that though.
I don't even think they'll try to not pay him anyway, but rather settle it with a percentage of the rest of the contract. I don't think he'd have a leg to stand on if they did decide to do that though.
If you were an employee whose boss is putting up obstacles that prevents you from doing your work, turning your colleagues against you, and then you meet your objectives, you will snap. There is plenty of evidence, just look at our transfer campaign, the players we bought, the current team, the decisions going against us this season unchallenged. This is not a well assembled team. Could we have played better? Probably. But the implosion in the 2nd half of the season, after being on pace to win 85-90pts, is strange.
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Djalo, Alcaraz? All amazing signings.
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If that journalist was a mouthpiece from someone inside the club, then I can understand his outburst. It is unlikely he decided to throw everything away if there were no prior tensions. He didnt behave according to the standards we once had. But have we maintained those standards over the last few years?
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I dont see a reseblance between the 2. When was the last time Max went against the club like this? Even in Milan when they sold half his players each season, he never snapped. There is so much you can take. Its simply poor decision making from our board that allowed this to reach a point of no return. These guys arent blameless in all of this.
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Djalo, Alcaraz? All amazing signings.
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If that journalist was a mouthpiece from someone inside the club, then I can understand his outburst. It is unlikely he decided to throw everything away if there were no prior tensions. He didnt behave according to the standards we once had. But have we maintained those standards over the last few years?
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I dont see a reseblance between the 2. When was the last time Max went against the club like this? Even in Milan when they sold half his players each season, he never snapped. There is so much you can take. Its simply poor decision making from our board that allowed this to reach a point of no return. These guys arent blameless in all of this.
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What obstacles? You mean he needed Mbappe and Haaland to beat Maccabi Haifa or win more than 2 games in 15 matches?
Again making baseless claims without any shred of evidence.
We have collapsed in the 2nd half of the season in similar fashion for the last couple of years too so this is nothing new but insinuating that his supposed tensions with Giuntoli being the reason for the collapse is a load of BS. Just more cover up arguments for Allegri's incompetence.
If that was the case, he should've been shitcanned then and there for actively sabotaging the club and making the team underperform.
So yeah in that sense, it was a weak move from the board that we didn't fire him earlier. It's not a weak move from the club to fire him for acting like a complete asshole in public.
Again making baseless claims without any shred of evidence.
We have collapsed in the 2nd half of the season in similar fashion for the last couple of years too so this is nothing new but insinuating that his supposed tensions with Giuntoli being the reason for the collapse is a load of BS. Just more cover up arguments for Allegri's incompetence.
If that was the case, he should've been shitcanned then and there for actively sabotaging the club and making the team underperform.
So yeah in that sense, it was a weak move from the board that we didn't fire him earlier. It's not a weak move from the club to fire him for acting like a complete asshole in public.
how butt hurt can one be about this lolWhy wasnt he fired then?
Our tranfer campaign is evidence in itself. BoD failling to defend the club in the face of injustice is another.
2 wins in 15 games? It was never as bad as this season, not even close, so they should have pulled the trigger earlier. Why wait? Maybe biding your time until convient opportunity comes up so you dont have to meet contractual obligation, while doing everything you can to sabbotage the guy? Time will tell.
Its no secret these 2 never got along. Why would he point at him? You think its part of some act? I dont think Djalo, Weah or Alcaraz were good signings. Did he want someone different? Probably.
Shred of evidence?
Agree on this.
Our tranfer campaign is evidence in itself. BoD failling to defend the club in the face of injustice is another.
2 wins in 15 games? It was never as bad as this season, not even close, so they should have pulled the trigger earlier. Why wait? Maybe biding your time until convient opportunity comes up so you dont have to meet contractual obligation, while doing everything you can to sabbotage the guy? Time will tell.
Its no secret these 2 never got along. Why would he point at him? You think its part of some act? I dont think Djalo, Weah or Alcaraz were good signings. Did he want someone different? Probably.
Shred of evidence?
Agree on this.
For those who are bothered by the firing and the circumstances- pls stop using crutches to falsely portray any sadness about him finally being gone. He fvcked up (numerous times prior to the incident at the finale). The club did what it should’ve have done bc it was unacceptable from a non-sporting perspective. This is Yuddhsthir continually mourning the slaying of the kauravas. Nonsensical and again showing the damagingly low IQ of the Jj fan base.
He should've been fired after the Maccabi Haifa debacle but Elkann's intervention in the light of plusvalenzagate meant that he stayed on. Besides, as reported we were handicapped by that massive 4 year contract.
You believe the board pulled a bitch move on Allegri so that we could save some money. Your entire argument will be flushed down the toilet if we do end up paying him money which in my opinion we will. Time will tell but it is also understandable from the board's perspective to fire him for going full rogue on them. You may not like it but it's understandable.
As for VAR manipulation? Well of course we have been hard done by poor officiating in some games but that doesn't excuse parking the bus against minnows and hoping to capitalize on unforced errors from opposition teams. The writing was on the wall. His football was unsustainable and it was no surprise to see our capitulation.
You can come up with any conspiracies you want but guy was living on borrowed credit cause of his 'legend' status. He should be thankful that the board and the fans tolerated him for this long. But by all means, you can continue making a big deal out of it. No one really cares tbh. He's gone and I'm happy.
You believe the board pulled a bitch move on Allegri so that we could save some money. Your entire argument will be flushed down the toilet if we do end up paying him money which in my opinion we will. Time will tell but it is also understandable from the board's perspective to fire him for going full rogue on them. You may not like it but it's understandable.
As for VAR manipulation? Well of course we have been hard done by poor officiating in some games but that doesn't excuse parking the bus against minnows and hoping to capitalize on unforced errors from opposition teams. The writing was on the wall. His football was unsustainable and it was no surprise to see our capitulation.
You can come up with any conspiracies you want but guy was living on borrowed credit cause of his 'legend' status. He should be thankful that the board and the fans tolerated him for this long. But by all means, you can continue making a big deal out of it. No one really cares tbh. He's gone and I'm happy.
They will settle on some amount. I think its obvious they didnt want to pay full amount so his outburst was good opportunity to make a move. Its a big deal if what he stated was correct and the reason he went full rogue on them. The board tolerated him only because of the money, not the status. Fans tolerated him because he defended the club last year, the only one who actually pointed out at rigged system.
That being said, Id like a new coach and a team to be in media for the right reasons next year so this needs to be brushed under the rug quickly.
That being said, Id like a new coach and a team to be in media for the right reasons next year so this needs to be brushed under the rug quickly.