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Sparty, I thought that was u spartacus, but i was not so sure. Who let you out of jail? you silly felon
pretty much...lol
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I never said Scala and Sacchi were not good in their day, I said they did the rebuilding of teams better than Del neri and when they went to bigger teams they were not successful, in Sacchi's case the nationale and in Scala's case , Dortmund.
Sorry Denco but Sacchi got a second place in the World Cup. Scala is true didn't do well in Germany but so did Lippi in Inter, whihc doesn't mean that he wasn't able to lead a big team...
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I totally understand about working with inferior players and getting the best out of them and all that jazz but there are always 2 sides to a coin
For instance Zaccharoni who is not that similar to Del neri in his Udinese days was thought of as some kind of fresh air to Italian football with his 3 forwards and crossing the ball for Bierhoff to nod home and he went to Milan, won the league by default as for me that was the worst team to have won the league in my time, followed closely by the Juve that Inter handed the title to, but I digress, and 2 seasons or so later he was sacked as his brand of football was so anaemic , it was unreal, he went to Lazio, same scenario..
Well Zaccheroni for instance lacks the personality that Del Neri has imo, secondly Zaccheroni didn't have bad players in Udinese (Fiore,Bierhoff,Amoroso,Giannichedda,Jorgensen...) and nobody wins a league by defautl (lol) that year Milan played a good football and had in Weah,Bierhoff and Boban great leaders that got Milan to the title, but anyway that is a case like probably many other coaches, and that doesn't mean that Del Neri will fail or will succed for sure...Lippi didn't do incredible things with Napoli before joining Juve...but eveyrbody knew that the man had a good leadership to lead players and that is why they picked him.Same thing could happen to Del Neri.
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I am just saying that Chievo are no more the attractive side that people are making them out to be
Cosmi might not be sucessful but his Perugia side is for me far more attractive than Chievo are
Yes Cosmi is a good coach as well, but unfortunately this year he will go to seire B and Del Neri with equal players or even worse is staying another year in serie A.
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Did you say Miccolli was better than Guilly? You have to be kidding
Miccoli cannot take on players, yes he strikes the ball so cleanly and he is technically good but thats about it
No way can Miccolii inspire any side to winning a big tournament, he is not anywhere near good enough, he can contribute to it, but he cannot inspire it.
Please do not say he has not been given ample opportunity as its his job to convince Lippi not to drop him but he just falls short of that.
OMG Denco whats wrong with u mate! How can u say Miccoli is not better that Giuly.Miccoli is a hell of a talent!. He can take players if he doesn't in Juve (which he does) his because he wants to play his cards right he doesn't wanna look selfish. Everytime Miccoli was given a chance he did it right. I mean look against Parma. Everytime he plays Juventus looks like another team. Miccoli is 4 o 5 years younger than Giuly and he can still get even better. I bet whatever u want that next year if he gets the chance to play as a starter will be Miccoli's year. Miccoli did an excelelnt job for his firts year in Juve.
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If you are dropped in favour of Dv , then something is very wrong with you.
Actually I think Di Vaio is a good player he has a problem though just like Miccoli and his probelm is called DP. Everytime Di Vaio plays good and DP gets back form his injury he gets back to the bench...ok some players like Miccoli have strong presonalities which doesn't bring them down, and to some players it affects them. Di Vaio is like one of those players. If he doesn't feel confidence around him he turns into a mediocre player. Trust me confidence sometimes is everything in a player.
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Camoranesi is not a natural winger, he is just forced to play there, he is in fact an inside forward or second striker, that is why his best job is when he cuts inside and places a through pass
He never played on the wings at Verona.
Wrong. Camo is a natural wing. He always played on the wing in Verona except when Mutu was injured and had to play as a second striker. In his carreer he always played as a wing.
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Lippi is very unpredictable as a manger, the only thing that you can guarantee is that he would always mess up in big matches and make baffling decisions but do you think that Del Neri would make things better with Moggi who has proved time and time again , to me anyways, that he is not adventurous enough to take gambles
Why everybody hates Moggi...I think the man did an excellent job. he bought players like Zidane,Henry,Trezeguet,Maresca,Miccoli,Di Vaio and many others, but everybody wants him to buy,buy,buy,buy. Damn! i agree with Moggi. Juventus will never be in financial crisis thanks to our transfer politic. Of course he cannot always be right with buying players, is not a machine, just as Juve cannot win everysingle year, but for what he did till now he did an excellent job IMO.
Yes Del Neri would marry perfectly with Juve as he is a coach that can get the best of the players he has. Juvenuts knows that, and that is why that if Lippi wont stay they will get him.