Israeli-Palestinian conflict (58 Viewers)

[Elvin]

And are still happening today. Turkey and Azerbaijan are deliberately targeting Armenians in Artsakh with military aggression and blockades.

Artsakh is no more lol

I think after Croatia, Azerbaijan is the first nation to successfully end separatism in its territory. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Fuck Artsakh!

 

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[DAiDEViL]

Artsakh is no more lol

I think after Croatia, Azerbaijan is the first nation to successfully end separatism in its territory. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Fuck Artsakh!

Don't be such a Turk.

 

[Elvin]

Guess who's been helping Azerbaijan militarily against Armenia

One more time. Nothing ever happened on Armenian territory. Karabakh/Artsakh has always been internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Doesn't anyone own a map ffs? Armenian territory was never attacked.

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Don't be such a Turk.

Let me guess, you never had problems when Croatia was restoring its territorial integrity. And you don't have any problems when Ukraine is trying to do the same.

But OMG poor Armenians, right?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Goddamn Tuz, I had mostly weaned myself off Twitter for a while, but now I'm back into rage scrolling

Where else can you find informative shit like this

 

[DAiDEViL]

Where else can you find informative shit like this

Feeling like there is a jew joke in there somewhere.

 

[Post Ironic]

Looks like you fell for recycled Israeli propaganda. I suggest reading the article.

I read it. I failed to read closely and pay attention to the dates at the end of it. Ridiculous, for that to be recycled yesterday. So much propaganda. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Feeling like there is a jew joke in there somewhere.

We should start a foreskin crypto, prepucium

 

[icemaη]

I read it. I failed to read closely and pay attention to the dates at the end of it. Ridiculous, for that to be recycled yesterday. So much propaganda. Thanks for pointing that out.

A website that has a sports-like stats counter on the front page for the war should probably be skipped.

 

[Post Ironic]

War and conflict and suffering around the world.

Meanwhile, in Canada, we have the true issues that shock and dismay…

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/this-isn-t-wh...walk-vandalized-in-fort-langley-b-c-1.6612402

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A website that has a sports-like stats counter on the front page for the war should probably be skipped.

Does it?

I just clicked a link to the article. Didn’t even know I24 was an Israeli news org. Now I do. I shall be more careful with checking such things going forward. Thanks.

 

[U Picciriddu]

What other flags? I knew a hizbu tahrir dude in college, turned out to be CIA operative. They are a fringe group calling for political action to bring back a caliphate in the muslim world to address major islamic issues like palestine, same as a neo nazis calling for an all aryan denmark. To my knowledge they have never in their existence carried out any violent or terrorist acts.

You want to debate about radicalization when you frankly know nothing about islam or jihadist movements so i am not sure what is there to debate. Anyone can be radicalized with the right rhetoric especially post trauma, nothing novel there. Highly mediatized traumatic events like this will radicalize a lot of people in all kinds of directions.

Look back to the initial post of you can’t remember the other flags.

If you look to radicalisation in the context of this war it will end in jihadism of course.

Btw stop the insulting. Your ‘expertise’, ‘you know nothing’.

 

[Seven]

Nikolaj.

I ain’t a nazi btw, never was and never will be.

Of course not.

The Nazi party doesn't exist anymore, so you couldn't be a Nazi.

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When you read these ragebait engagement farming twitter bots, you need to do a little bit of your own source critiquing instead of fall for each disinformation (wether its for their cause or just shilling for twitter check to get mass clicks).


There's bound to be few islamist nut jobs in the sea of thousands, but right wing extremist accounts or pro Israeli accounts, or even the friggin BBC, are so quick to dismiss peaceful pro Palestine rallies that are all about ending the violence, by claiming its a litteral rally for terrorists. That's the oldest trick in the book, dont fall for it too quickly.


Just like the Indian rally link you posted that claimed the pro palestinian rally had Italian flags, when it taken 2 minutes to source it was that specific parties own political flag. The nutjob who posted it knew it too, but he also knew some people are too lazy to do 2 minute research so it's worth spreading the lie.


One of your links is of Geert Wilders? Smh Lol what's next, quoting Le Pen?

It's even worse. You could say you disagree with some of Israel's politics and you're immediately branded a Hamas supporter.

I'm not even 'pro Palestine' or whatever that is supposed to mean. I can't think of a single Palestinian I've ever met that I liked. And I did meet a few. But to me, as an outsider, this is not about picking sides. Clearly people in Gaza have been suffering. And they have been suffering for decades. And much of that suffering is caused by Israel.

From Wikipedia: "The international community regards all of the Palestinian territories including Gaza as occupied. Human Rights Watch has declared at the UN Human Rights Council that it views Israel as a de facto occupying power in the Gaza Strip, even though Israel has no military or other presence, because the Oslo Accords authorize Israel to control the airspace and the territorial sea.".

Do people realize what this means? That your land is occupied?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Look back to the initial post of you can’t remember the other flags.

If you look to radicalisation in the context of this war it will end in jihadism of course.

Btw stop the insulting. Your ‘expertise’, ‘you know nothing’.

So when a landlord kills a 6 yo and attacks his mother, that's jihadism? How about when a jew in skokie il shoots at a pro Palestinian protest, that's jihadism? And it's not an insult, you know nothing about this subject. Do you know how silly you sound when you say alqaeda organizes protests or that jihad has a flag? It shows complete ignorance of the matter at hand.

Imo It would be much better to just come out and say i don't like brown people and want them out of my country, and you can even make a compelling argument for it. Instead of co-opting other people's conflicts. I mean radio genoa and wilders, that's not really subtle.

 

[U Picciriddu]

So when a landlord kills a 6 yo and attacks his mother, that's jihadism? How about when a jew in skokie il shoots at a pro Palestinian protest, that's jihadism? And it's not an insult, you know nothing about this subject. Do you know how silly you sound when you say alqaeda organizes protests or that jihad has a flag? It shows complete ignorance of the matter at hand.

Imo It would be much better to just come out and say i don't like brown people and want them out of my country, and you can even make a compelling argument for it. Instead of co-opting other people's conflicts. I mean radio genoa and wilders, that's not really subtle.

Never said this, don’t put any words in my mouth. You’re looking to the X video title and say that I said it, while my text above those videos was something very different.

The Wilders tweet is good because it shows the sign calling for a caliphate, as said. You can hardly read them at the other tweets.

The videos and signs are really as they are, the one who posts them are irrelevant for me.

 

[BayernFan]

Of course not.

The Nazi party doesn't exist anymore, so you couldn't be a Nazi.

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Was more in response to Gordo. I despise Nazi ideologi where you believe you're superior to others because of skin colour, race, religion etc.

And I have no problem with people from other continents and cultures being here, I have no problem with them having a different skin colour than mine. What I do have as a demand though is that you're not gonna be a menace to your new country and think they should change their way of living and practices just for you. In stead you should do your utmost to learn the language, get an education, job etc. What religion you practice at home in privacy I won't care at all, same with what you eat and not.

I don't give a shit if you're Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, whether you're from Morocco, India, Mexico, Greece, North Korea or Somalia. People are welcome here as long as they have the will and their intentions are good.

 

[maxi]

One more time. Nothing ever happened on Armenian territory. Karabakh/Artsakh has always been internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Doesn't anyone own a map ffs? Armenian territory was never attacked.

Irrespective of whether its internationally recognised or not, Azerbaijan's actions as recently as a month ago were nothing short of genocidal. The military forcibly evicted and displaced over 100,000 ethnic Armenians who had inhabited the region for centuries, after having nearly starved half of them to death from the Lachin Corridor blockade.

Now I'm not arguing that Israel are totally clean of wrongdoings, that was never my point. My argument focuses on the hypocrisy of the muslim outrage in regard to Palestine. If you're going to criticse Israel for human rights abuses, then apply the same energy to what muslim countries are doing to neighbouring non-muslim populations. Because otherwise then it becomes clear that this isn't about the loss of innocent human life, but the loss of muslim life.

 

[ALC]

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/21/1207...-tech-conference-resigns-over-israel-comments

you really can’t say anything against Israel

 

[DAiDEViL]

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/21/1207...-tech-conference-resigns-over-israel-comments

you really can’t say anything against Israel

Can't see what's wrong with what he said.

That David Marcus guy sounds like a proper idiot though.

 

[Tomice]

Of course not.

The Nazi party doesn't exist anymore, so you couldn't be a Nazi.

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It's even worse. You could say you disagree with some of Israel's politics and you're immediately branded a Hamas supporter.

I'm not even 'pro Palestine' or whatever that is supposed to mean. I can't think of a single Palestinian I've ever met that I liked. And I did meet a few. But to me, as an outsider, this is not about picking sides. Clearly people in Gaza have been suffering. And they have been suffering for decades. And much of that suffering is caused by Israel.

From Wikipedia: "The international community regards all of the Palestinian territories including Gaza as occupied. Human Rights Watch has declared at the UN Human Rights Council that it views Israel as a de facto occupying power in the Gaza Strip, even though Israel has no military or other presence, because the Oslo Accords authorize Israel to control the airspace and the territorial sea.".

Do people realize what this means? That your land is occupied?

Gaza is not occupied, the west Bank is.

HRW has very low credibility regarding this issues
https://web.archive.org/web/2023052...m/2009/10/20/opinion/20bernstein.html?_r=1&em

 

[Seven]

Gaza is not occupied, the west Bank is.

HRW has very low credibility regarding this issues
https://web.archive.org/web/2023052...m/2009/10/20/opinion/20bernstein.html?_r=1&em

Bernstein does sound like the name of a totally objective author.

I kid, I kid.

 

[abstract]

c'mon man

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this is super dangerous, western media needs to push back a little bit